Returning to the UK
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Returning to the UK
I have lived and worked in France for 23 years, and will be retiring on a full French state pension in May. I have to return to live in the UK later this year and would like to know if my French pension can be paid automatically into a UK bank account. If not, I know I would be liable for French tax on my pension, but would I still need to make French social security payments?
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I have lived and worked in France for 23 years, and will be retiring on a full French state pension in May. I have to return to live in the UK later this year and would like to know if my French pension can be paid automatically into a UK bank account. If not, I know I would be liable for French tax on my pension, but would I still need to make French social security payments?
I think that most of the info on here is about coming from the UK to France.
My understanding is that if you were coming to France from the UK you would be able to apply to have the State Pension paid gross into a french bank account. This is different from a Government pension e.g. policeman or fireman etc which would be taxed in the UK.
I also thought that you could only be charged social payments if you are able to benefit from them e.g. healthcare.
If you have UK pension entitlement, then you should be able to combine them.
These are things that I have read in previous posts and others will be able to confirm or correct what I have written.
Have a look at this DWP site http://www.dwp.gov.uk/international/...ements-in-eea/
where it appears to say that the UK would have responsibility to pay your pension accumulated in other EU countries.
Last edited by cyrian; Mar 14th 2013 at 2:49 pm.
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Could your French pension provider not offer any information?
My UK pension provider has considerable expertise (not Govt) and has always been happy to advise and, as Cyrian says, is happy to pay direct into my French bank in Euros.
My UK pension provider has considerable expertise (not Govt) and has always been happy to advise and, as Cyrian says, is happy to pay direct into my French bank in Euros.
Last edited by cjm; Mar 14th 2013 at 5:34 pm. Reason: Xtra thought
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Maybe I need to repeat - I am moving FROM France, back TO the UK. I have a French State pension. Any previous replies are kind of irrelevent! If I'd been able to get an answer from the French authorities I wouldn't need to have posted the question on this forum.
Last edited by goyg; Mar 14th 2013 at 10:11 pm.
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goyg - perhaps you would have a better chance of success if you tried a FRENCH expats site, who might have some experience of your situation.
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Good point -I'll try that, thanks.
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Re: Returning to the UK
I have lived and worked in France for 23 years, and will be retiring on a full French state pension in May. I have to return to live in the UK later this year and would like to know if my French pension can be paid automatically into a UK bank account. If not, I know I would be liable for French tax on my pension, but would I still need to make French social security payments?
http://www.patrimoinorama.com/index....6336&Itemid=29
Which seems to have the answer to your question. From what I gather the only problem will be that you will have to pay for the conversion to GBP.
If you are returning to the UK for good then you will be resident there and as such it will be the UK taxman who will deal with you. There is loads of info on the European Commission site about State pensions and your rights to transfer them where ever you want. Oh one more thing you will have to get a form signed every year by the Mayor or the Town Hall stating that you are alive still :-)
PS CNAV are quite helpful every year they send me a statement telling me how much they paid me so I can tell the Spanish Taxman :-(
Last edited by scrubbedexpat095; Mar 15th 2013 at 3:20 pm. Reason: To add PS
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That's brilliant mfh - many thanks.
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Re: Returning to the UK
I have lived and worked in France for 23 years, and will be retiring on a full French state pension in May. I have to return to live in the UK later this year and would like to know if my French pension can be paid automatically into a UK bank account. If not, I know I would be liable for French tax on my pension, but would I still need to make French social security payments?
Can't help re transfer to the UK - presumably it's the same procedure as UK Pensions arriving in a French bank? Your bank will simply need your UK bank details. Go along to your bank and ask!
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How do you manage not to pay social security ccontributions? Aren't they taken out at source?
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The French Pension that you'll receive is net (apart from Income Tax, of course). You paid côtisations on your French salary, part of which goes towards your Pension, and part towards your Social Security benefits.
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Net, or gross? Not sure I understand, sorry.