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Petition to stay in EU for 180 days
Anyone interested there is a Petition started in the UK that requests the UK Gov to ask the EU to allow stays of 180 days at a stretch rather than the 90day ruling currently in force.
Might be the answer to anyone that does not wish to take out residency but prefer to spend more than 90 days. Not changing the total in a year at 180 but to allow a single visit of 180 days. Nothing to loose, 8000 already signed: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/562577 |
Re: Petition to stay in EU for 180 days
Originally Posted by wellinever
(Post 12969943)
Anyone interested there is a Petition started in the UK that requests the UK Gov to ask the EU to allow stays of 180 days at a stretch rather than the 90day ruling currently in force.
Might be the answer to anyone that does not wish to take out residency but prefer to spend more than 90 days. Not changing the total in a year at 180 but to allow a single visit of 180 days. Nothing to loose, 8000 already signed: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/562577 The petition is asking for something neither the UK or any other nationality gets anywhere in the EU. If the EU allows this exception for the UK, what other exceptions will the UK want, and how many other third-countries are also going to want the same exceptions? I hope the EU says no! |
Re: Petition to stay in EU for 180 days
Completely agree with DaveLovesDee informative post.
Like it or not, these are fruits of brexit. Time to accept reality and move on. |
Re: Petition to stay in EU for 180 days
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
(Post 12969981)
In the interest of people having the full information, there has never been visits of more than 90 days to anywhere in the EU (except the UK, which was a UK allowance) as a visitor, even when the UK was an EU member. Any period spent over 90 days in an EU member state legally required residency registration under the grounds of employment, self-employment, student or self-sufficiency. The UK made registration for EU nationals in the UK optional.
The petition is asking for something neither the UK or any other nationality gets anywhere in the EU. If the EU allows this exception for the UK, what other exceptions will the UK want, and how many other third-countries are also going to want the same exceptions? I hope the EU says no! |
Re: Petition to stay in EU for 180 days
Originally Posted by Tweedpipe
(Post 12970419)
A little clarification please. As this is the France forum, do I understand you are saying that those retired or working in France pre Brexit legally required residency registration under the grounds of employment, self-employment, student or self-sufficiency?
To have protected rights under the Withdrawal Agreement, you must be legally resident in France under EU rules before the end of the transition period - currently set for 31 December 2020. Legal residence is more than just having a foot on French soil so in order to make sure that you're covered, it's time to understand what's what and get your house in order! What does it mean to be 'legally resident' in another EU country? To live legally under EU rules in another EU country, you must be exercising your 'treaty rights of free movement' - the treaty being the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU). The treaty gives you the right to go to another EU country to do one or more of these four things:
I've never seen that page before, but it's very useful. |
Re: Petition to stay in EU for 180 days
Originally Posted by EU.flag
(Post 12970142)
Completely agree with DaveLovesDee informative post.
Like it or not, these are fruits of brexit. Time to accept reality and move on. |
Re: Petition to stay in EU for 180 days
Originally Posted by KJMW
(Post 12973560)
But Brexit , as DLD points out, has nothing to do with it!
Since Brexit they can't. That's why it's suddenly become an issue. |
Re: Petition to stay in EU for 180 days
Originally Posted by KJMW
(Post 12973560)
But Brexit , as DLD points out, has nothing to do with it!
. Negotiate more favorable post-transition travel rules for U.K. citizensFrom 1st January 2021, U.K. citizens travelling to the EU will only be allowed to stay a maximum of 90 days in every 6 month period.The government must negotiate reciprocal treatment for its U.K. citizens, meaning allowing stays of atleast 180 consecutive days. More detailsThe new rules will mean that if someone stays in a country for three months continuously they will then not be allowed to return to that country for another three months. This is extremely unfair to the millions of Britons who own second homes all over Europe and have been splitting their life between the U.K. and another EU country for decades now. |
Re: Petition to stay in EU for 180 days
Originally Posted by ETwenthome
(Post 12973577)
Well it has, because before Brexit nobody checked and folks were able to bend the rules to suit themselves, either knowing they would get away with it or in some cases apparently not even knowing that they were bending the rules.
Since Brexit they can't. That's why it's suddenly become an issue. |
Re: Petition to stay in EU for 180 days
Originally Posted by Expatrick
(Post 12973579)
But the petition clearly implies that it has -
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Re: Petition to stay in EU for 180 days
Originally Posted by KJMW
(Post 12973581)
Because it is in a petition doesn't make it right, they can say anything. DLD is correct.
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Re: Petition to stay in EU for 180 days
How can the UK government negotiate a "more favorable post-transition travel rules for U.K. citizens" if some of the Tory user base are demanding to rip the WA apart?
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Re: Petition to stay in EU for 180 days
Brexit has changed things in that as EU citizens we could spend up to 3 months consecutive in any one EU country, whereas as non EU citizens we can spend 90 days out of 180 in Schengen.
This is obviously more restrictive. For instance, previously you could legitimately have spent 2 months in France, followed by 2 months in Spain, followed by another month in France. Now you can't. Those are the facts and I don't see what's to argue about. There are more restrictions, and these restrictions will be enforced. It's what the UK voted for. I have a vast amount of sympathy for groups such as British musicians who may no longer be able to tour, and British seasonal workers who have lost the prospect of working in the EU. I have zero sympathy for holiday home owners who seem to be so "entitled" they think it's demeaning for THEM to have to apply for the appropriate visa. |
Re: Petition to stay in EU for 180 days
Originally Posted by malcom1970
(Post 12973584)
How can the UK government negotiate a "more favorable post-transition travel rules for U.K. citizens" if some of the Tory user base are demanding to rip the WA apart?
Some of them want to tear the NI protocol up. Some of them don't like the trade deal. I hadn't actually heard that any of them want to go back on the Withdrawal Agreement. Though I suspect there are some who can't tell one from t'other. But I agree, I don't think HMG has any interest at all in renegotiating anything more favourable on freedom of movement. |
Re: Petition to stay in EU for 180 days
Can you imagine the outrage in certain quarters in the UK if, now that Brexit has been done, and got over the line, and is in the oven, and has been thoroughly brexited meaning brexited, someone in the France were to launch a petition to the Commission to re-open negotiations to allow French hotel staff to work in the UK for 180 consecutive days?
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