Internet connection
#31
The OP's son wants to play Xbox Live so they don't need a high-speed internet connection, they need a low-latency internet connection. As I mentioned in my previous post, 3G is marginal for game-play and satellite would be hopeless.
The attached article explains:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lag_(online_gaming)
The attached article explains:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lag_(online_gaming)
If the engineers applied themselves they could cook an egg on your head
#32
Ahem as has been mentioned if you have a KA-Sat based service low latency is not an issue the refractive index of microwave transmission is lower than fibre optics and thus the latency is lower.
If the engineers applied themselves they could cook an egg on your head
If the engineers applied themselves they could cook an egg on your head

House -> Satellite
Satellite -> ISP
ISP -> Satellite
Satellite -> House
Here is some simple maths. The satellite will be at around 36,000km. Multiply it by 4 for a full round trip and you get 144,000km. Now divide this by the speed of light and you get 480ms. This is pure travelling time, then you need to add hardware latency and the latency between the ISP and whichever server you're trying to reach. In other words you'll be in the low 500's at best.
Unfortunately 500ms is way too slow for online gaming.
#33
I understand your logic but you are forgetting about the distances involved when sending data via satellite. Latency is measured over the round trip (what we called ACK/NAK when I was in comms):-
House -> Satellite
Satellite -> ISP
ISP -> Satellite
Satellite -> House
Here is some simple maths. The satellite will be at around 36,000km. Multiply it by 4 for a full round trip and you get 144,000km. Now divide this by the speed of light and you get 480ms. This is pure travelling time, then you need to add hardware latency and the latency between the ISP and whichever server you're trying to reach. In other words you'll be in the low 500's at best.
Unfortunately 500ms is way too slow for online gaming.
House -> Satellite
Satellite -> ISP
ISP -> Satellite
Satellite -> House
Here is some simple maths. The satellite will be at around 36,000km. Multiply it by 4 for a full round trip and you get 144,000km. Now divide this by the speed of light and you get 480ms. This is pure travelling time, then you need to add hardware latency and the latency between the ISP and whichever server you're trying to reach. In other words you'll be in the low 500's at best.
Unfortunately 500ms is way too slow for online gaming.
#34
I understand your logic but you are forgetting about the distances involved when sending data via satellite. Latency is measured over the round trip (what we called ACK/NAK when I was in comms):-
House -> Satellite
Satellite -> ISP
ISP -> Satellite
Satellite -> House
Here is some simple maths. The satellite will be at around 36,000km. Multiply it by 4 for a full round trip and you get 144,000km. Now divide this by the speed of light and you get 480ms. This is pure travelling time, then you need to add hardware latency and the latency between the ISP and whichever server you're trying to reach. In other words you'll be in the low 500's at best.
Unfortunately 500ms is way too slow for online gaming.
House -> Satellite
Satellite -> ISP
ISP -> Satellite
Satellite -> House
Here is some simple maths. The satellite will be at around 36,000km. Multiply it by 4 for a full round trip and you get 144,000km. Now divide this by the speed of light and you get 480ms. This is pure travelling time, then you need to add hardware latency and the latency between the ISP and whichever server you're trying to reach. In other words you'll be in the low 500's at best.
Unfortunately 500ms is way too slow for online gaming.
Blimey this thead is getting à bit too technical événements for the liés offre me....

But thanks for all help given concerning my particular case
#35
Maybe a silly question, but is there any possibility in using a "clé 4G" for the home and therefore bypassing any need for ADSL?
#36
I have always found that if you get the angle of the dangle wrong then you are banjaxed!
#37
Yes definitely. In theory both the speed (up to 100mbit/s) AND the latency (less than 20ms) should be better than ADSL so gaming over 4G ought to be fine. It remains to be seen what the networks deliver though!
#38
Last edited by Chatter Static; Jan 17th 2014 at 1:39 am.
#40
The product looks great and yes of course it will do exactly what you suggest. It's the equivalent of a personal hotspot on your mobile phone. Not sure what forfait you need to get with it - cost per month, Gb per month etc. You also need to know what coverage you will get in your area. But very interesting and if you get one do tell us all how it works out.
#41
Ok, So if I get this I can, in theory get 4G on all appliances in the home?
Last edited by Chatter Static; Jan 17th 2014 at 8:35 am.
#42
Yes you can the main downside is the price you pay for bandwidth. But looking at the coverage map your commune has not got 4g but upgrading the mast's does not happen over night and the transition from GSM to 3G was not the fastest when I purchased my iPad 1st gen our town still didn't have 3G
#43
Difficult to say but you can check it out quite easily by going to the speedtest.net website on your PC to check your ADSL's download and upload speed and the latency. Then do the same on a smartphone after downloading the speedtest app. If you don't have a smartphone then you'll need a friend who does have one to help you out here but just make sure their phone is on the 3G network that you plan to use. It's completely free to do.
This test is not definitive because many 3G networks throttle back your speed if they detect you are doing a big download such as a torrent or a youtube file or if you start up a software update. This phenomenon can also occur if the network is overloaded or you have gone past a certain quota within a certain timeframe. 4G is likely to be much improved in this respect. Good luck!
This test is not definitive because many 3G networks throttle back your speed if they detect you are doing a big download such as a torrent or a youtube file or if you start up a software update. This phenomenon can also occur if the network is overloaded or you have gone past a certain quota within a certain timeframe. 4G is likely to be much improved in this respect. Good luck!
#44
OK thanks for that - We may not have 4G for the time being where we are, but I'm supposing that we'll have 4G before we have a better ADSL line. We do however have 3G so I'm presuming it should work with at least that. Would 3G be a better option that my actual ADSL internet connection??
#45
He, my neighbour that is, had real trouble getting orange to open up a line and he played hell, as being self employed he was, like me, in dire need of an internet line but Orange refused as apparently his address didn't exist
. In the end somebody's arse was kicked and he was given an ADSL line but not after waiting over 4 months. It really is an appalling service especially in todays world. Our kids are told to go onto the internet to do their homework - if we didn't have it I have no idea how we'd go on.
I did a test earlier on :
ping 63ms
download 1.35mbps
upload 0,41 mbps
leaves a lot to be desired.....






