artisits in France
Oct 21st 2007, 4:34 pm
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artisits in France
Can anyone advise on the advantages/disadvantages of registering as an artist in France and or how one goes about doing that please?
Oct 21st 2007, 6:06 pm
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Oct 21st 2007, 8:12 pm
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Advantages: much reduced payments for social secu/health/pension or at least much reduced if you are not declaring alot of income.
How: you need to be able to demonstrate that you are living from being an artist. Art (as opposed to craft/artisan) means that your work is always one off rather than repeated in a home production line.
How: you need to be able to demonstrate that you are living from being an artist. Art (as opposed to craft/artisan) means that your work is always one off rather than repeated in a home production line.
Oct 22nd 2007, 5:47 am
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How and to whom do I need to prove that and do you know who I apply to?
Oct 22nd 2007, 10:55 am
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This is their website for more information.
www.lamaisondesartistes.fr/
Oct 22nd 2007, 3:33 pm
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Thanks Herbie..what is a 'cotisation'? Also what happens if you have a good year and the next one you earn nothing. I thought that being an artist legit would be beneficial. At the moment it's a sideline and I have for this year had two sales, laying out far more than ive earned back. Theres no way I could afford to pay over 400 euros per month to anyone, im stunned!
Oct 22nd 2007, 6:21 pm
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If you can get the status it is beneficial and thus difficult to get! Also you have to prove that you've lived off your art for real, with evidence of sales and such like, I think for the two or three years prior to your claim. The whole 'self-employed' lark here is really horrid. It's much easier to do it in the UK. Just got to put up with the British...
Oct 24th 2007, 9:58 am
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If you can get the status it is beneficial and thus difficult to get! Also you have to prove that you've lived off your art for real, with evidence of sales and such like, I think for the two or three years prior to your claim. The whole 'self-employed' lark here is really horrid. It's much easier to do it in the UK. Just got to put up with the British...
All you need is your first invoice by way of proving that you've started to work and earn a living as an artist. You have to be registered as soon as you start work. There is no question of working for 2 or 3 years prior to your claim. This is not legal. I you do not register with Maison des Artistes, then you can work as a 'free' artist and pay into the system that way. There are several ways of doing this. 'Cotisations' are the payments you make to the government for health etc. They do not include tax payments.
If you do not earn above their threshold of I think 6000 euros per annum of sales, then you do not pay anything. If you have a good first year, your tax and cotisations will be based on that the following year. This is why most businesses in France go under in their 3rd year.
The only advice I can give you is that you must really understand the system and how it works and then use it to your advantage. There are always ways around things and this is how the French manage. My suggestion to you would be to make sure you do not earn more than the threshold and give yourself time to gauge how it's going.
Oct 24th 2007, 10:03 am
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Re: artisits in France
All you need is your first invoice by way of proving that you've started to work and earn a living as an artist. You have to be registered as soon as you start work. There is no question of working for 2 or 3 years prior to your claim. This is not legal. I you do not register with Maison des Artistes, then you can work as a 'free' artist and pay into the system that way. There are several ways of doing this. 'Cotisations' are the payments you make to the government for health etc. They do not include tax payments.
If you do not earn above their threshold of I think 6000 euros per annum of sales, then you do not pay anything. If you have a good first year, your tax and cotisations will be based on that the following year. This is why most businesses in France go under in their 3rd year.
The only advice I can give you is that you must really understand the system and how it works and then use it to your advantage. There are always ways around things and this is how the French manage. My suggestion to you would be to make sure you do not earn more than the threshold and give yourself time to gauge how it's going.
If you do not earn above their threshold of I think 6000 euros per annum of sales, then you do not pay anything. If you have a good first year, your tax and cotisations will be based on that the following year. This is why most businesses in France go under in their 3rd year.
The only advice I can give you is that you must really understand the system and how it works and then use it to your advantage. There are always ways around things and this is how the French manage. My suggestion to you would be to make sure you do not earn more than the threshold and give yourself time to gauge how it's going.
Oct 24th 2007, 7:28 pm
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All you need is your first invoice by way of proving that you've started to work and earn a living as an artist. You have to be registered as soon as you start work. There is no question of working for 2 or 3 years prior to your claim. This is not legal. I you do not register with Maison des Artistes, then you can work as a 'free' artist and pay into the system that way. There are several ways of doing this. 'Cotisations' are the payments you make to the government for health etc. They do not include tax payments.
If you do not earn above their threshold of I think 6000 euros per annum of sales, then you do not pay anything. If you have a good first year, your tax and cotisations will be based on that the following year. This is why most businesses in France go under in their 3rd year.
The only advice I can give you is that you must really understand the system and how it works and then use it to your advantage. There are always ways around things and this is how the French manage. My suggestion to you would be to make sure you do not earn more than the threshold and give yourself time to gauge how it's going.
If you do not earn above their threshold of I think 6000 euros per annum of sales, then you do not pay anything. If you have a good first year, your tax and cotisations will be based on that the following year. This is why most businesses in France go under in their 3rd year.
The only advice I can give you is that you must really understand the system and how it works and then use it to your advantage. There are always ways around things and this is how the French manage. My suggestion to you would be to make sure you do not earn more than the threshold and give yourself time to gauge how it's going.
ask Sarkozy and the 250,000 French in the UK...
