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Old Oct 4th 2014, 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by bigglesworth
I did not know that.

My apologies if you thought my earlier response was a bit glib. I was jumping between things.
Not at all. I just assumed you didn't know I was outside the EU.


And of course, you're right in so far as any DAT gains are balanced by exchange rate changes, but not exactly a lot of choices given that I have to get money to France in advance of my arrival.
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Not at all. I just assumed you didn't know I was outside the EU.


And of course, you're right in so far as any DAT gains are balanced by exchange rate changes, but not exactly a lot of choices given that I have to get money to France in advance of my arrival.
Do you know if there's a maximum amount you can transfer into one of these accounts and can you post a link to a more detailed description (in French is fine...) Thx.
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^^ I found it myself. The upper limit is 500,000 euro.

That should be enough.
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^^ I found it myself. The upper limit is 500,000 euro.

That should be enough.

For this month?
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For this month?
Next June actually.
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OP, its all about 'risk & reward'. Gilts, government bonds that pay less than the cost of living increases -hopefully the country doesn't go bust.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-1...-k-credit.html

Cash under the mattress (so to speak) in three different currencies depending where you live or in a single currency where you spend most of your time.

Even with 100K, 500K or a cool million to invest - do you want to have your investment somewhere that you know the risk is even as low as 1%, with or without FX fluctuations?

Preservation of capital is key.

Do not let anyone tell you of an investment that is 'guaranteed' - that only means, that the person telling you that has a personal gain.

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which is your currency of choice - swiss franc or the euro?
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I think that the risk to UK or French banks is now quite small because of the support from governments / central banks.
In 2008, I happened to have some large deposits (in excess of the guarantee limits) in a UK bank and I have to say that I had a very worrying week until the UK government bailed the bank out.
Today, I have my "risk" spread over a wide range of investment vehicles.
Cyprus was a particular case where the ECB did not want to bail out the Cypriot banks because there was a LOT of Russian money in the system amongst other reasons.
If, for example, the Bank of France tried to do the same thing where it was hurting the French upper/ political/ business class then all hell would be set loose. The recent AF pilots' strike would seem like a walk in the park.
During the financial crisis, I "lost" about 30% of my investment value although I had "gained" over 40% over the previous 3 years. Today, those investments are back at pre-crash levels and I didn't lose any capital - only growth.
Risk is not about all or nothing but about spreading "risk" to minimise potential loss which may not arise.
The investment strategy for €50k would be different from that for a cool €1M.
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A very frightening time indeed.

The Bank of England is reported to be considering additional protection - up to a million.

Bank of England to protect deposits of up to £1m under new rules - Telegraph
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Originally Posted by bigglesworth
A very frightening time indeed.

The Bank of England is reported to be considering additional protection - up to a million.

Bank of England to protect deposits of up to £1m under new rules - Telegraph
My understanding is that this proposed guarantee is very limited in scope and is not intended to protect long-term deposits.
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Originally Posted by InVinoVeritas
My understanding is that this proposed guarantee is very limited in scope and is not intended to protect long-term deposits.
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Quite correct. It is not for general deposits.
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Yes true

But then, if one had a million, who would leave long term money in a bank anyway?

The point is surely that those of us who are selling a home to retire or move overseas have some additional protection?
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Originally Posted by bigglesworth
Yes true

But then, if one had a million, who would leave long term money in a bank anyway?
Don't suppose you'll get many answers here
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Old Oct 6th 2014, 7:09 pm
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Originally Posted by InVinoVeritas
My understanding is that this proposed guarantee is very limited in scope and is not intended to protect long-term deposits.

As soon as you see, beyond the glaring headline of great news, something like 'under certain conditions' you can be absolutely sure you will not be the 1 in 1 million to meet these conditions.
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