Vetassess tests
Sep 18th 2008, 1:58 am
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Vetassess tests
I've tried to put everything about Vetassess in one place. Can anyone add anything else
These are examples of information that can be found on discussion websites about Vetassess.
http://www.britishexpats.com
http://www.*************
http://pomsinperth.com
Vetassess are looking for proof that you are as qualified and have as much practical experience as an Australian tradesman.
What are tradespeople in Australia expected to be capable of?
You must demonstrate that you are capable of doing the broad range of work normally done by, and to the same level of skill as, a tradesperson trained in Australia.
The work of a tradesperson includes:
reading work instructions and technical drawings common to the trade;
planning independently the method and order of doing a job;
using measuring instruments correctly;
marking out, laying out and setting up trade work;
selecting appropriate materials, tools, machines and equipment;
making appropriate settings on tools, machines and equipment;
performing trade work independently; and
checking and /or testing work against established standards.
You must also demonstrate that you have adequate background/theoretical knowledge.
An Australian Electricians Apprenticeship lasts for 4 years and consists of 930 hrs practical experience and completion of numerous classroom based units of competency from UTE31199 Training package. This can be found below
http://www.ntis.gov.au/Default.aspx?...UTE31199/rules
The Vetassess assessment consists of practical workshop tests and a multi choice exam.
Documentation
Basically they are looking at work experience and evidence of that. The more qualifications the better, from log books to supplier receipts. If you are employed it's probably easier as you can ask for references, but as we were self-employed it was a case of getting as much evidence as we could of jobs done, tools used, references etc. We drafted letters to all our regular clients and listed what we wanted them to include in the reference as well as a bit in character, so we could use that later.
Practical tests 3hrs
• Using the drawing that is supplied Install a mcb, 2 way lighting circuit using twin and earth and a radial socket circuit with EGA conduit and install an earth rod. Then complete an earth continuity, polarity and insulation test, record results, and finally make the installation live.
• Wire a motor control circuit, a safe isolation and reconnect,
• Fault finding a circuit, resistors that have to be simulated on a test
• From a drawing wire a DOL starter from scratch with a remote on and emergency stop. After completion and test that it is working, a fault is put on, and you have to carry out full test procedures to rectify.
• You are also asked questions about motors such as star and delta connections. Some of your answers you have to write down on paper.
• Test, isolate and reconnect of a tubular heater. You have a proving point for your meter and you have tests to perform such as insulation resistance and continuity and write the results down.
• Wire a small circuit of three resistors in series and parallel and measure the resistance of the circuit. You also have to show were various meters should be placed in the circuit to measure various items.
Multiple Choice exam (18 questions in 45 minutes)
• The test was on resistors in parallel and series, units of measurements, capacitors inductors ohms law
• 3 phase power calcs, transformer windings, reactance, impedance, power factors, transformer ratios, rms values
• An example question are:
A power supply with a low power factor will;
a. current will lead voltage
b. voltage will lead current
c. req smaller conductors
d. use less electricity
• Draw on a circuit showing where short circuits would be and open circuits across the resistor.
• The Centalfugal switch on a single phase motor disconnects the start windings that have the capacitor connected across them (windings that is) to create the phase angle so the motor will start.
• A combination of series and parallel contacts are wired to a hold-on circuit.
The hold-on (self-maintaining) function is achieved by connecting the hold on contactor in parallel to the push button. When the push button is actuated and reopened, the current flows via contactor until a normally closed contact, like a stop button or a limit switch is operated (roller shutters)
The hold-on (self-maintaining) circuit is used to switch machines on and off. The machine is switched on at the input terminals via normally open contact, like a push button and is switched off via normally closed contact like a stop button or a limit switch is operated (roller shutters)
Advice
• The assessor’s are very friendly and to an extent answers all questions.
• Work safe at all time remember lock off procedures, and take it as a very formal thing these guys might be friendly but they mean business.
• Test equipment are supplied, you need to bring a hacksaw screwdrivers drill pliers and side cutters,
• Do plenty of revision on Ohms Law and power equations for the multiple guess questions is my advice.
• A few general questions were thrown in through the day and the last thing was to write a description of the main work that I do.
• You are provided with an individual work bay in the college. You are provided with info on what is required -ie cables run in conduit (saddle bends etc), surface mounted, distribution board, accessories etc. All materials are provided (eg switches, cable, d/b,mcb's, conduit).
• At the end (allowed 3hrs) you will need to test the electrical installation (IR and continuity), I recommend you
• Take your IR/Cont tester (make sure it's calibrated!), meggar, multimeter, calculator. Tools will be supplied if you don’t have any.
• Everything is explained very well to you by the assessor. You are under constant supervision, and throughout the practical assessment you will be asked technical questions, such as expected readings on inspection and testing work, expected earth fault loop readings etc. This is from memory, and you are not allowed any books such as BS7671 on site guide etc.
• You are required to wear PPE clothing etc as required by the college.
• Bring your passport and your competency letter from Vetassess
• Dont forget to take a "Electrician working" sign and also an mcb lock. The assessor will ask lots of questions about safety and isolation procedures.
• Ask the assessor to sign a letter to prove you have attended the assessment. Some assessment papers have been lost.
• Inspect every tool before you use it. Inspect each and every part of the installation or components of an installation before you start to do anything because you will fail before you've even started if you don't.
Information
Radial circuit
http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/radialcircuit.htm
star delta starters
http://www.wiringmanual.com/motor039.html#wp1286028
http://www.lmphotonics.com/single_phase_m.htm
Current ratings and volt drops for sheathed multi-core p.v.c.-insulated cables
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Figures/Tab4.7.htm
http://www.startco.ca/library/techin...tion4/4.16.pdf
http://www.greenbrook.co.uk/pdf/pbcatpg21-22.pdf
SO DOL starters and a wiring diagram
http://www.memonline.com/circuitdiagrams.html
Resistor colour codes and ohms law
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadge...s/resistor.htm
Electrical motor theory AC & DC
http://www.physclips.unsw.edu.au/jw/electricmotors.html
Electrical theory
http://www.motorcontrol.com/formulae/electrical.htm
Direct on Line (3 Phase) with overload diagram
http://www.imopc.com/Uploads/docs/24.pdf
Direct on Line (Single Phase) with overload diagram
http://www.imopc.com/Uploads/docs/23.pdf
Parallel and series circuits formulae
Capacitances in Parallel
When capacitances C1, C2, C3, ... are connected in parallel, the total capacitance CP is:
CP = C1 + C2 + C3 + ...
Capacitances in Series
When capacitances C1, C2, C3, ... are connected in series, the total capacitance CS is:
1 / CS = 1 / C1 + 1 / C2 + 1 / C3 + ...
Resistances in Parallel
When resistances R1, R2, R3, ... are connected in parallel, the total resistance RP is:
1 / RP = 1 / R1 + 1 / R2 + 1 / R3 + ...
Resistances in Series
When resistances R1, R2, R3, ... are connected in series, the total resistance RS is:
RS = R1 + R2 + R3 + ...
Electronic circuit theory
http://utwired.engr.utexas.edu/rgd1/lesson01.cfm
Domestic wiring refresher
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technica...ngDiagrams.pdf
Volt drop calculations
http://www.olex.com.au/FAQ/General.html
Full list of au regs required by your average spark
all available as downloads or in hardback from sai global
3000 wiring regs
http://www.saiglobal.com/shop/Script...AS0733783910AT
3008 cable selection
http://www.saiglobal.com/shop/Script...=stds000017409
3012 constructions sites and demoltion
http://www.saiglobal.com/shop/Script...AS678036347050
3017 testing
http://www.saiglobal.com/shop/Script...AS0733784224AT
3018 domestic installations
http://www.saiglobal.com/shop/Script...AS068731978624
Cable selector for au standards
http://jaw.iinet.net.au/stuff/cablecalc.html
RMS Peak voltage
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...tt/elect39.htm
http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/acdc.htm
Power factors
http://www1.eere.energy.gov/industry...fs/mc60405.pdf
Transformer windings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer
Transposing formula’s
http://www.mathsteacher.com.au/year1...ulas/trans.htm
These are examples of information that can be found on discussion websites about Vetassess.
http://www.britishexpats.com
http://www.*************
http://pomsinperth.com
Vetassess are looking for proof that you are as qualified and have as much practical experience as an Australian tradesman.
What are tradespeople in Australia expected to be capable of?
You must demonstrate that you are capable of doing the broad range of work normally done by, and to the same level of skill as, a tradesperson trained in Australia.
The work of a tradesperson includes:
reading work instructions and technical drawings common to the trade;
planning independently the method and order of doing a job;
using measuring instruments correctly;
marking out, laying out and setting up trade work;
selecting appropriate materials, tools, machines and equipment;
making appropriate settings on tools, machines and equipment;
performing trade work independently; and
checking and /or testing work against established standards.
You must also demonstrate that you have adequate background/theoretical knowledge.
An Australian Electricians Apprenticeship lasts for 4 years and consists of 930 hrs practical experience and completion of numerous classroom based units of competency from UTE31199 Training package. This can be found below
http://www.ntis.gov.au/Default.aspx?...UTE31199/rules
The Vetassess assessment consists of practical workshop tests and a multi choice exam.
Documentation
Basically they are looking at work experience and evidence of that. The more qualifications the better, from log books to supplier receipts. If you are employed it's probably easier as you can ask for references, but as we were self-employed it was a case of getting as much evidence as we could of jobs done, tools used, references etc. We drafted letters to all our regular clients and listed what we wanted them to include in the reference as well as a bit in character, so we could use that later.
Practical tests 3hrs
• Using the drawing that is supplied Install a mcb, 2 way lighting circuit using twin and earth and a radial socket circuit with EGA conduit and install an earth rod. Then complete an earth continuity, polarity and insulation test, record results, and finally make the installation live.
• Wire a motor control circuit, a safe isolation and reconnect,
• Fault finding a circuit, resistors that have to be simulated on a test
• From a drawing wire a DOL starter from scratch with a remote on and emergency stop. After completion and test that it is working, a fault is put on, and you have to carry out full test procedures to rectify.
• You are also asked questions about motors such as star and delta connections. Some of your answers you have to write down on paper.
• Test, isolate and reconnect of a tubular heater. You have a proving point for your meter and you have tests to perform such as insulation resistance and continuity and write the results down.
• Wire a small circuit of three resistors in series and parallel and measure the resistance of the circuit. You also have to show were various meters should be placed in the circuit to measure various items.
Multiple Choice exam (18 questions in 45 minutes)
• The test was on resistors in parallel and series, units of measurements, capacitors inductors ohms law
• 3 phase power calcs, transformer windings, reactance, impedance, power factors, transformer ratios, rms values
• An example question are:
A power supply with a low power factor will;
a. current will lead voltage
b. voltage will lead current
c. req smaller conductors
d. use less electricity
• Draw on a circuit showing where short circuits would be and open circuits across the resistor.
• The Centalfugal switch on a single phase motor disconnects the start windings that have the capacitor connected across them (windings that is) to create the phase angle so the motor will start.
• A combination of series and parallel contacts are wired to a hold-on circuit.
The hold-on (self-maintaining) function is achieved by connecting the hold on contactor in parallel to the push button. When the push button is actuated and reopened, the current flows via contactor until a normally closed contact, like a stop button or a limit switch is operated (roller shutters)
The hold-on (self-maintaining) circuit is used to switch machines on and off. The machine is switched on at the input terminals via normally open contact, like a push button and is switched off via normally closed contact like a stop button or a limit switch is operated (roller shutters)
Advice
• The assessor’s are very friendly and to an extent answers all questions.
• Work safe at all time remember lock off procedures, and take it as a very formal thing these guys might be friendly but they mean business.
• Test equipment are supplied, you need to bring a hacksaw screwdrivers drill pliers and side cutters,
• Do plenty of revision on Ohms Law and power equations for the multiple guess questions is my advice.
• A few general questions were thrown in through the day and the last thing was to write a description of the main work that I do.
• You are provided with an individual work bay in the college. You are provided with info on what is required -ie cables run in conduit (saddle bends etc), surface mounted, distribution board, accessories etc. All materials are provided (eg switches, cable, d/b,mcb's, conduit).
• At the end (allowed 3hrs) you will need to test the electrical installation (IR and continuity), I recommend you
• Take your IR/Cont tester (make sure it's calibrated!), meggar, multimeter, calculator. Tools will be supplied if you don’t have any.
• Everything is explained very well to you by the assessor. You are under constant supervision, and throughout the practical assessment you will be asked technical questions, such as expected readings on inspection and testing work, expected earth fault loop readings etc. This is from memory, and you are not allowed any books such as BS7671 on site guide etc.
• You are required to wear PPE clothing etc as required by the college.
• Bring your passport and your competency letter from Vetassess
• Dont forget to take a "Electrician working" sign and also an mcb lock. The assessor will ask lots of questions about safety and isolation procedures.
• Ask the assessor to sign a letter to prove you have attended the assessment. Some assessment papers have been lost.
• Inspect every tool before you use it. Inspect each and every part of the installation or components of an installation before you start to do anything because you will fail before you've even started if you don't.
Information
Radial circuit
http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/radialcircuit.htm
star delta starters
http://www.wiringmanual.com/motor039.html#wp1286028
http://www.lmphotonics.com/single_phase_m.htm
Current ratings and volt drops for sheathed multi-core p.v.c.-insulated cables
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Figures/Tab4.7.htm
http://www.startco.ca/library/techin...tion4/4.16.pdf
http://www.greenbrook.co.uk/pdf/pbcatpg21-22.pdf
SO DOL starters and a wiring diagram
http://www.memonline.com/circuitdiagrams.html
Resistor colour codes and ohms law
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadge...s/resistor.htm
Electrical motor theory AC & DC
http://www.physclips.unsw.edu.au/jw/electricmotors.html
Electrical theory
http://www.motorcontrol.com/formulae/electrical.htm
Direct on Line (3 Phase) with overload diagram
http://www.imopc.com/Uploads/docs/24.pdf
Direct on Line (Single Phase) with overload diagram
http://www.imopc.com/Uploads/docs/23.pdf
Parallel and series circuits formulae
Capacitances in Parallel
When capacitances C1, C2, C3, ... are connected in parallel, the total capacitance CP is:
CP = C1 + C2 + C3 + ...
Capacitances in Series
When capacitances C1, C2, C3, ... are connected in series, the total capacitance CS is:
1 / CS = 1 / C1 + 1 / C2 + 1 / C3 + ...
Resistances in Parallel
When resistances R1, R2, R3, ... are connected in parallel, the total resistance RP is:
1 / RP = 1 / R1 + 1 / R2 + 1 / R3 + ...
Resistances in Series
When resistances R1, R2, R3, ... are connected in series, the total resistance RS is:
RS = R1 + R2 + R3 + ...
Electronic circuit theory
http://utwired.engr.utexas.edu/rgd1/lesson01.cfm
Domestic wiring refresher
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technica...ngDiagrams.pdf
Volt drop calculations
http://www.olex.com.au/FAQ/General.html
Full list of au regs required by your average spark
all available as downloads or in hardback from sai global
3000 wiring regs
http://www.saiglobal.com/shop/Script...AS0733783910AT
3008 cable selection
http://www.saiglobal.com/shop/Script...=stds000017409
3012 constructions sites and demoltion
http://www.saiglobal.com/shop/Script...AS678036347050
3017 testing
http://www.saiglobal.com/shop/Script...AS0733784224AT
3018 domestic installations
http://www.saiglobal.com/shop/Script...AS068731978624
Cable selector for au standards
http://jaw.iinet.net.au/stuff/cablecalc.html
RMS Peak voltage
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...tt/elect39.htm
http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/acdc.htm
Power factors
http://www1.eere.energy.gov/industry...fs/mc60405.pdf
Transformer windings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer
Transposing formula’s
http://www.mathsteacher.com.au/year1...ulas/trans.htm
Sep 21st 2008, 4:07 am
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Sep 21st 2008, 8:37 am
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Re: Vetassess tests
Top post paul 11/10
We should ask the mods to lock this thread an make it sticky maybe?
What do others think ?
is it helpful and informative?
Dougie
We should ask the mods to lock this thread an make it sticky maybe?
What do others think ?
is it helpful and informative?
Dougie
Sep 21st 2008, 12:44 pm
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Re: Vetassess tests
Great post,
i found it helpful
i found it helpful
Sep 23rd 2008, 9:27 am
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Re: Vetassess tests
Hi!
My hubby is just beginning the process - he's a general electrician. He has not yet done the competency assessment (the written bit before the practical assessment), and we are finding the written (lengthy!) description of his day to day job a little daunting to begin. Does anyone know if there are any sample outlines of this around to make the job easier for us to begin, or if there are any out there to read that have been approved? It would give us a great idea of where to begin oursleves.
Thanks in advance
My hubby is just beginning the process - he's a general electrician. He has not yet done the competency assessment (the written bit before the practical assessment), and we are finding the written (lengthy!) description of his day to day job a little daunting to begin. Does anyone know if there are any sample outlines of this around to make the job easier for us to begin, or if there are any out there to read that have been approved? It would give us a great idea of where to begin oursleves.
Thanks in advance
Sep 24th 2008, 8:06 pm
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Re: Vetassess tests
good post but i think im going to stop reading these and similar posts as this one tells us that you are going to be hammered from the minute you walk in the door till you leave and them someone else's post of there experience tells us that it is only about half the stuff wrote on here and i find these inconsistances in peoples experiences very unnerveing. i think also if people who have already done the exam posted past question examples both oral and practical it would be a great help to equip ourselves for exam day
