hi everyone
does anyone happen to know what effect turkey's accession into europe is going to have on northern cyprus - interest rates, taxes, property prices, everything really?
chrissie

I shouldn't worry about it, I dont think it will ever happen

Well, not for many many many years anyways

but i worry about everything mitzyboy, including what might not happen for years!!

Heh heh ... know what you mean

But the reality is that as far as the Greek South are concerned, The Turks are camped on land that belongs to them. Now, Cyprus being a part of the EU, they will want the Land of Northern Cyprus returned to them before Turkey joins .... and lets be honest, its not going to happen is it. So are the EU going to allow a country to join the fold that is at odds with an existing member?

Also, recent Turk infractions into Iraq against requests by GB / US etc and the Turks message to them of more or less to get stuffed, makes it even more of a long shot.

good points well made.
i like your overwhelming confidence and will try to relax!!
enjoy your sun.
chrissie

Gracias



But its overcast and cloudy today

bad luck!!
deep frost here to start with but now a beautiful cloudless blue sky and brilliant sunshine!

An interesting paradox on the near horizon :
on 17. February , Kosovo is expected to unilaterally announce it's independence from Serbia ; this has , reportedly , been already underwritten by the U.S. , Germany and dozens of others ( many members of EU included ) and so , within a few months : Kosovo would next become a full member of the U.N , even a candidate for accession to the E.U. , with all the connotations , stated and implied ...
Now , how does this differ , pray : from self-styled Republic of North Cyprus getting sufficient international support ( off-the-cuff : Russia , Gordon Brown , China , Mugabe , Gadaffi , Sarko , Peter Hain , Thabo Mbeki , Castro , Pakistan , Egypt , Jacob Zuma , Albania , Montenegro , Afghanistan , Turkey , Azerbaijan , Georgia , India , Sri Lanka , Moldavia , Myanmar , Sudan , Hugo Chavez , Ethiopia , Bangla Desh , Iran , Saudis , Yemen , Namibia , Indonesia , Chechnians and many more of such lot ? Shouldn't be too difficult...mefinkz) , so then the very similar trick can be performed , as in Kosovo's case , or not ?

The EU is also helping the north by giving aid so there is movement towards one day including them in the EU I would think. In 2004 there was a referendum to re-unify the island - the Turkish third approved, the Greek two thirds overwhelmingly opposed. Turkey is keen to resolve the matter as they have their own EU aspirations and Cyprus is the elephant in the room. Of course the issues relating to Turkey entering the EU are likely to provoke a lot of argument and it might not happen.

But , there might yet be some very practical lessons , learned from break-ups of Tito's ex-Yugoslavia and of Brezhnjew's ex-CCCP ;
e.g. what would be wrong for turkish part of the island to announce themselves as an "independent" republic , bend over backwards to secure a handful of influential friends , then earn more from e.g. tourism , agriculture , fishing - and so get into the world's good books via that route , then if ( and IS a huge IF ) Turkey ever gets into EU , then there could also be talk of some re-unification ( or not , whatever the case might be , at that historic moment ) ....
- the recent history is littered with cases of ( often : entirely-unviable ) newly-recognised little states , becoming autonomous and recognised entities , for better or ( indeed : often ! ) worse results...
What with the latest post-election developments in Serbia , the Turkey's wait to be admitted to EU ( haven't they officially given up on that , anyway - i.e. except for some sporadic British attempts to re-light those cold ashes ? ) might be a helluva long one , certainly only after the nearer-to-E.U. and relatively-lesser problem-cases get sorted first : FYR Macedonia , Bosnia , Croatia , Montenegro and the rest of the Balkans...

And you think Turkey would allow the world to see that happen?

Who knows ?
When you've been around the block a few times ( like yrs truly the undersigned ) some strange stuff has been witnessed
- remember Maggie handing Hong Kong over , when the startled Chinese , by their own admission , least expected anything of the sort ...???
- or , have a look at the so-called "civilised world" accept what goes on in self-proclaimed Republika Srpska ( the bits which mad radicals managed to get cut off and are still holding-onto , from what used to be "Bosnia and Herzegovina"....
- or : Winnie Mandela returning into South African ruling circles...
one could go on a whole lot longer , not that any of the above has much connection with Cyprus of today....yet , strange things do seem to happen , sometimes : when least expected ?

America is pushing for Turkey to enter the EU. They like using their air bases and have other aspirations. I can't see Northern Cyprus standing in the way of all of this.

too true USA wants there pitballs(turkey) in Europe and USA will lean on UK who will stab Cyprus in the back and give turkey whatever they want. Well thats what my moneys on.i just hope cyprus get holland, germany, italy, and france on there side to counter UK/USA/Turkey pack. Cyprus is small friendly country this needs to be ended this year before too many children are brain washed on all sides.