robotza

Hi all , I'm looking to fill in my dads application to be naturalised as a British citizen.

Has anyone here got some guidance for me ?

Here is what I've put together so far from my research .

Grandfather birth certificate - ( British citizen born in UK )
Father birth certificate ( Born in South Africa - CUKC by descent)
Father - Mother Marriage Certificate .( Married before 01/01/1949 )
Mother CUKC by British Nationality Act 1948 (section 4C(5) confirms her status as a citizen otherwise than by descent(Not by Descent)
Applicant Born 1952 - Birth Certificate ( Born in South Africa )

Would I need the marriage certificate of the grandparents ?

robotza

So from gathering information from this forum , this is how I understand my fathers route to British Nationality would work . If anyone can add or correct me if i'm wrong please feel free to post. Thanks

Glassybell

Hi, I'm not one of the experts in the forum, but wondered something. Your dad is CUKC by descent - why are you doing a naturalization form for him? If he is CUKC by descent all you need to do is submit documents to get his passport as he already is a citizen and doesn't need to naturalize: https://www.gov.uk/apply-first-adult-passport. In fact, if he naturalizes now, it implies he wasn't a citizen when you were born, which would cause you issues if you want to claim citizenship...

So, your claim is basically your dad was a CUKC by descent and married your mom and she became a CUKC and then when you were born you should have become a CUKC by descent from her (ignoring the citizen by descent you could have obtained had your dad registered your birth with the consulate)?

Do you have evidence your mom is a British citizen? Again, not an expert on marriage and citizenship, but assuming you are correct that she was a CUKC because of marriage when you were born, I wonder if you can just do a UKM form to claim citizenship via your mom. I do hope someone who knows more gives you some answers.

robotza

Hi Glassybell , his case is a bit more complicated because his father ( My grandfather ) is CUKC by descent, and because of section 12 (5) BNA his wife ( My grandmother ) would be CUKC not by descent, which opens the door for my dad to be registered as CUKC by descent

So unfortunately he cant be registered directly without a decision from the home office

robotza

Does anyone know if I need my dad's mother's birth certificate ? or is it irrelevant ?

jmin

Why are you trying to register him as a citizen? So that you can become a citizen?

If I understand your situation, both your paternal grandparents are British citizens:
Your paternal great-grandfather was born in the UK
Your grandfather was a CUKC by descent and then a British citizen by descent by 11(1)
Your grandmother was a CUKC by 12(5) and then later considered a British citizen otherwise than by descent because she married your grandfather before BNA 1948 took effect.

robotza

Thanks for replying jmin , I am trying to register him as we are going to move as a family to the Isle of man. Me on a work visa , him as a UK passport holder.
Do you know what birth/marriage certificates I would need for this application ?