If the UK left the EU...
Nov 24th 2013, 2:56 am
#108
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Re: If the UK left the EU...
Seems your side tracking fella (i got you confused with the other guy) lol
Back on topic
I was referring to the other guy who got called a troll mistaken identity lmao
Back on topic
I was referring to the other guy who got called a troll mistaken identity lmao
Nov 24th 2013, 2:58 am
#109
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Re: If the UK left the EU...
The thread has not been on-topic since about Page 1.
Last edited by dunroving; Nov 24th 2013 at 3:31 am.
Nov 24th 2013, 5:29 am
#111
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Re: If the UK left the EU...
Labour is just saying what they need to say - now - to get elected.
But once again you miss asking yourself the important question. You should be asking why these politicians are laying the blame for the woes of the country on migrants. Instead of how they - the people in power - have run the ship. You should be asking yourself if it is REALLY the fault of migrants to your country that the banks nearly collapsed or if migrants sent your countrymen out to the middle east to support a "war" not of their making.
THAT is where they get you. They blame a powerless group. The electorate drinks it all, taking their anger to the voting box. And they get to stay in power.
But once again you miss asking yourself the important question. You should be asking why these politicians are laying the blame for the woes of the country on migrants. Instead of how they - the people in power - have run the ship. You should be asking yourself if it is REALLY the fault of migrants to your country that the banks nearly collapsed or if migrants sent your countrymen out to the middle east to support a "war" not of their making.
THAT is where they get you. They blame a powerless group. The electorate drinks it all, taking their anger to the voting box. And they get to stay in power.
It's actually complete nonsense what you posted. Frankly you'd be hard pushed to find a country, any country, where politicians blame migrants LESS than happens in the UK.
The influx of migrants into the UK from places like Poland might well, in the long term, be beneficial to the UK. Give it another generation and the Poles will have 'vanished', you won't have Polish ghettoes, they will simply disappear into the general population... its the way it was managed that's the real issue.
The UK didn't need more people, it can't even employ its own, never mind the million who turned up from Eastern Europe. If there's another influx, on anything like a similar scale, from Bulgaria and Romania then there will be social conflict. I think you can be 100% sure of that.
Nov 24th 2013, 8:45 am
#112
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Joined: Mar 2006
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Re: If the UK left the EU...
Interesting spin on what I said... but didn't answer either question.
It's actually complete nonsense what you posted. Frankly you'd be hard pushed to find a country, any country, where politicians blame migrants LESS than happens in the UK.
The influx of migrants into the UK from places like Poland might well, in the long term, be beneficial to the UK. Give it another generation and the Poles will have 'vanished', you won't have Polish ghettoes, they will simply disappear into the general population... its the way it was managed that's the real issue.
The UK didn't need more people, it can't even employ its own, never mind the million who turned up from Eastern Europe. If there's another influx, on anything like a similar scale, from Bulgaria and Romania then there will be social conflict. I think you can be 100% sure of that.
It's actually complete nonsense what you posted. Frankly you'd be hard pushed to find a country, any country, where politicians blame migrants LESS than happens in the UK.
The influx of migrants into the UK from places like Poland might well, in the long term, be beneficial to the UK. Give it another generation and the Poles will have 'vanished', you won't have Polish ghettoes, they will simply disappear into the general population... its the way it was managed that's the real issue.
The UK didn't need more people, it can't even employ its own, never mind the million who turned up from Eastern Europe. If there's another influx, on anything like a similar scale, from Bulgaria and Romania then there will be social conflict. I think you can be 100% sure of that.
Nov 24th 2013, 9:31 am
#113
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Re: If the UK left the EU...
Well I guess that's definitive then.
Nov 24th 2013, 11:44 am
#115
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Re: If the UK left the EU...
Article? It's Wiki, you can find any old nonsense in there.
The Australian migration process, controlled by DIBP, is widely regarded, globally, as amongst the best in managing the countries demand for labour and the numbers of people it allows to migrate. If you are to believe that 'article', they have been getting it wrong for decades and rather than reducing the numbers allowed in during a recession, they should actually just throw the doors open and let anybody and everybody in, as that would be 'good for the economy'? It's patent nonsense.
Out of interest, why do you feel the need to talk down to people? You're not another one are you, who believes that anybody, who may have a different view to you, is somehow ignorant or lacking in education?
The Australian migration process, controlled by DIBP, is widely regarded, globally, as amongst the best in managing the countries demand for labour and the numbers of people it allows to migrate. If you are to believe that 'article', they have been getting it wrong for decades and rather than reducing the numbers allowed in during a recession, they should actually just throw the doors open and let anybody and everybody in, as that would be 'good for the economy'? It's patent nonsense.
Out of interest, why do you feel the need to talk down to people? You're not another one are you, who believes that anybody, who may have a different view to you, is somehow ignorant or lacking in education?
Nov 24th 2013, 12:10 pm
#116
WhiteRabbit
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 1,480
Re: If the UK left the EU...
Article? It's Wiki, you can find any old nonsense in there.
The Australian migration process, controlled by DIBP, is widely regarded, globally, as amongst the best in managing the countries demand for labour and the numbers of people it allows to migrate. If you are to believe that 'article', they have been getting it wrong for decades and rather than reducing the numbers allowed in during a recession, they should actually just throw the doors open and let anybody and everybody in, as that would be 'good for the economy'? It's patent nonsense.
Out of interest, why do you feel the need to talk down to people? You're not another one are you, who believes that anybody, who may have a different view to you, is somehow ignorant or lacking in education?
The Australian migration process, controlled by DIBP, is widely regarded, globally, as amongst the best in managing the countries demand for labour and the numbers of people it allows to migrate. If you are to believe that 'article', they have been getting it wrong for decades and rather than reducing the numbers allowed in during a recession, they should actually just throw the doors open and let anybody and everybody in, as that would be 'good for the economy'? It's patent nonsense.
Out of interest, why do you feel the need to talk down to people? You're not another one are you, who believes that anybody, who may have a different view to you, is somehow ignorant or lacking in education?
Nov 24th 2013, 12:10 pm
#117
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Re: If the UK left the EU...
I dont like brits, they should not be asked, they should be thrown out of the EU, then
See where they stand....Then scots, welsh , N.ireland go independent, and join
The EU, leaving England alone, then we nice English people can carry on believing
We are unique, and forget, we come from anglo, saxony, belgium, gaul, normandy, who come from vikings who come from saxony, there aint such a thing as English
Or even British, we are a bastard nation, like all european countries, get a life, grow up and realise you are all foreigners, and britexpats
See where they stand....Then scots, welsh , N.ireland go independent, and join
The EU, leaving England alone, then we nice English people can carry on believing
We are unique, and forget, we come from anglo, saxony, belgium, gaul, normandy, who come from vikings who come from saxony, there aint such a thing as English
Or even British, we are a bastard nation, like all european countries, get a life, grow up and realise you are all foreigners, and britexpats
Nov 24th 2013, 12:15 pm
#118
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Re: If the UK left the EU...
I dont like brits, they should not be asked, they should be thrown out of the EU, then
See where they stand....Then scots, welsh , N.ireland go independent, and join
The EU, leaving England alone, then we nice English people can carry on believing
We are unique, and forget, we come from anglo, saxony, belgium, gaul, normandy, who come from vikings who come from saxony, there aint such a thing as English
Or even British, we are a bastard nation, like all european countries, get a life, grow up and realise you are all foreigners, and britexpats
See where they stand....Then scots, welsh , N.ireland go independent, and join
The EU, leaving England alone, then we nice English people can carry on believing
We are unique, and forget, we come from anglo, saxony, belgium, gaul, normandy, who come from vikings who come from saxony, there aint such a thing as English
Or even British, we are a bastard nation, like all european countries, get a life, grow up and realise you are all foreigners, and britexpats
