Going Back
Apr 25th 2016, 8:15 pm
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Re: Going Back
Where, if you know, was Thomas Waddel (your grandfather, I assume?) born?
Also, where is your information coming from? I.e.: do you know for sure (family documents), or are you relying on the various internet resources which have been cited here?
This is not a criticism: However, in order to (help you) trace your antecedents & a possible route to citizenship, precision in genealogical research is necessary.
Also: MASSIVE kudos to BiP!
Also, where is your information coming from? I.e.: do you know for sure (family documents), or are you relying on the various internet resources which have been cited here?
This is not a criticism: However, in order to (help you) trace your antecedents & a possible route to citizenship, precision in genealogical research is necessary.
Also: MASSIVE kudos to BiP!
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Apr 26th 2016, 12:59 am
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Re: Going Back
How to post up a doc or photo onto a post on the forums.
1 - Scan the document/pic to your PC /Laptop etc. Save as a jpeg.
2 - Start a new BE post .
3 - Look above the text box for a perclip icon.
4 - Click on that and a new box will open. It asks you to browse to the pic on your device.
5 - Browse to that pic & click.
6 - Wait for it to upload
7 - Close the browse and upload box.
8 - Click on the paperclip again and your pic will be there.
9 - Click on the number you see there and the pic will be added to your post.
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To send a pic or a doc via PM, then you will need to use a 3rd party like photobucket or similar.
You upload the image to the 3rd party host. You can then link to that in a PM.
1 - Scan the document/pic to your PC /Laptop etc. Save as a jpeg.
2 - Start a new BE post .
3 - Look above the text box for a perclip icon.
4 - Click on that and a new box will open. It asks you to browse to the pic on your device.
5 - Browse to that pic & click.
6 - Wait for it to upload
7 - Close the browse and upload box.
8 - Click on the paperclip again and your pic will be there.
9 - Click on the number you see there and the pic will be added to your post.
---edit ---
To send a pic or a doc via PM, then you will need to use a 3rd party like photobucket or similar.
You upload the image to the 3rd party host. You can then link to that in a PM.
Last edited by BEVS; Apr 26th 2016 at 1:08 am.
Apr 26th 2016, 1:02 am
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Re: Going Back
Here is the baptismal record for Louis Ernest Waddel which is the father in this case. The record states the birth date. The parents . The occupation. The address.
Birth 20 Sept 1911
Baptism 1 Oct 1911
Attachment 124538
Thomas Waddel is the grandfather. As yet his place of birth is not known. Nor is it certain who his parents were. This is the important one.
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For the sake of completeness BiP requested a search of Consular records for an actual birth cert. Nothing was found.
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One thing about family history.
Often surnames will alter slightly
Quite often given names will repeat through the generations.
Birth 20 Sept 1911
Baptism 1 Oct 1911
Attachment 124538
Thomas Waddel is the grandfather. As yet his place of birth is not known. Nor is it certain who his parents were. This is the important one.
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For the sake of completeness BiP requested a search of Consular records for an actual birth cert. Nothing was found.
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One thing about family history.
Often surnames will alter slightly
Quite often given names will repeat through the generations.
Last edited by BEVS; Apr 26th 2016 at 2:43 am. Reason: oops. One too many L's
Apr 26th 2016, 1:11 am
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Re: Going Back
Here is the baptismal record for Louis Ernest Waddell which is the father in this case. The record states the birth date. The parents . The occupation. The address.
Attachment 124538
Thomas Waddell is the grandfather. As yet his place of birth is not known. Nor is it certain who his parents were. This is the important one.
Attachment 124538
Thomas Waddell is the grandfather. As yet his place of birth is not known. Nor is it certain who his parents were. This is the important one.
First waddel looks right anything after that i have no clue never heard of them
I also have his father THomas's whose father was Hugh james waddel on doc 167 which states when he married his wife and i quote "Both these parties are of british subjects" stated on the documents
Ty Very much BEVS..
Last edited by goins; Apr 26th 2016 at 1:35 am.
Apr 26th 2016, 1:14 am
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Re: Going Back
Please look at the document. It is waddel with one L .
This matches the parents names and also the marriage record which is in BiPs post for those parents + the occupation
Sorry. It is me that put in one to many L's in my post. I will amend.
This matches the parents names and also the marriage record which is in BiPs post for those parents + the occupation
Sorry. It is me that put in one to many L's in my post. I will amend.
Last edited by BEVS; Apr 26th 2016 at 1:19 am.
Apr 26th 2016, 1:21 am
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Re: Going Back
Here is the baptismal record for Louis Ernest Waddel which is the father in this case. The record states the birth date. The parents . The occupation. The address.
Attachment 124538
Thomas Waddel is the grandfather. As yet his place of birth is not known. Nor is it certain who his parents were. This is the important one.
Attachment 124538
Thomas Waddel is the grandfather. As yet his place of birth is not known. Nor is it certain who his parents were. This is the important one.
I'm feeling rather amazed and delighted at the amount of knowledge & help given by BE members
Unfortunately, I'm not seeing how goins would have a claim to British citizenship, given the documentation we have so far?
Last edited by Shirtback; Apr 26th 2016 at 1:27 am.
Apr 26th 2016, 1:40 am
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Re: Going Back
http://tinypic.com/yourstuff.php
Hopefully this will clear up everything
i tested the URLit works and you will see 2 documents.
Hopefully this will clear up everything
i tested the URLit works and you will see 2 documents.
Last edited by goins; Apr 26th 2016 at 1:42 am.
Apr 26th 2016, 1:53 am
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Login - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting
Hopefully this will clear up everything
i tested the URL it works and you will see 2 documents.
Hopefully this will clear up everything
i tested the URL it works and you will see 2 documents.
Just takes me to the front page or my own profile page, even if I am logged in.
Last edited by BEVS; Apr 26th 2016 at 1:56 am.
Apr 26th 2016, 2:07 am
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Re: Going Back
From records , your grandparents were Thomas Waddel and Marie Blanche Desbruslais. (She died 16 Nov 1911)
Their marriage record states her father was called Louis - (& they named a son after him)
Thomas' father was called Ernest.
Married 20 July 1908. India
Attachment 124541
Ignore the other entries below their names. These are other marriages belonging to other couples
One of the witnesses look like 'Ben F Waddel' . This could be Benjamin Freeman Waddel.
Their marriage record states her father was called Louis - (& they named a son after him)
Thomas' father was called Ernest.
Married 20 July 1908. India
Attachment 124541
Ignore the other entries below their names. These are other marriages belonging to other couples
One of the witnesses look like 'Ben F Waddel' . This could be Benjamin Freeman Waddel.
Last edited by BEVS; Apr 26th 2016 at 3:23 am.
Apr 26th 2016, 2:36 am
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Re: Going Back
Benjamin Freeman Waddel born 1886. His parents were
Hew (Hugh) Ernest Waddel and a widow Amelia Horrox . Her maiden name was Freeman . Her father Thomas Freeman.
Attachment 124542
I place this as a marker as B F Waddel was present as witness at Thos Waddel & Marie Blanche marriage.
Thos Waddel father is stated as Ernest yet he is not the witness. Possibly deceased.
Hew (Hugh) Ernest Waddel and a widow Amelia Horrox . Her maiden name was Freeman . Her father Thomas Freeman.
Attachment 124542
I place this as a marker as B F Waddel was present as witness at Thos Waddel & Marie Blanche marriage.
Thos Waddel father is stated as Ernest yet he is not the witness. Possibly deceased.
Last edited by BEVS; Apr 26th 2016 at 2:40 am.
Apr 26th 2016, 2:39 am
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Re: Going Back
From records , your grandparents were Thomas Waddel and Marie Blanche Desbruslais.
Their marriage record states her father was called Louis - (& they named a son after him)
Thomas' father was called Ernest.
Attachment 124541
Ignore the other entries below their names. These are other marriages belonging to other couples
One of the witnesses look like 'Ben F Waddel' . This could be Benjamin Freeman Waddel.
Their marriage record states her father was called Louis - (& they named a son after him)
Thomas' father was called Ernest.
Attachment 124541
Ignore the other entries below their names. These are other marriages belonging to other couples
One of the witnesses look like 'Ben F Waddel' . This could be Benjamin Freeman Waddel.
Who, if anyone, in this fascinating lineage, was in Crown Service? Or haven't we got that far yet? I can't find any of them in the Gazette or other sources
Apr 26th 2016, 4:34 am
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Re: Going Back
A Thomas Waddel born to Hugh Earnest Waddel & Amelia Jeminia Harrox nee Freeman. Father is an engineer at the Calcutta Water Works
16 Nov 1881 - Source British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns- Births & Baptisms
Attachment 124543
Note. A sister was also baptised at the same time. The surname letters are transposed.
16 Nov 1881 - Source British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns- Births & Baptisms
Attachment 124543
Note. A sister was also baptised at the same time. The surname letters are transposed.