Father born in Mozambique 1929 - British Other Than By Birth?
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I have followed the site for a few years and finally joined yesterday. I have been trying to work out how to do a Forum posting, this seemed the only way I could do one. (I am not very good at Technology)
I am trying to clarify my UK status before the end of the year. My 91 Year old father living in the UK, was born in Mozambique to a British father and Portuguese mother. His parents have a British marriage certificate. My parents have a British marriage certificate from Southern Rhodesia. My father has only ever had a British birth certificate and in 2002 he tried to apply for a Mozambique birth certificate and was told his birth was only registered as British. I asked the Home Office to clarify his birth status and they say he is British by descent! There is a Forum posting here from 2017 which is now closed. Where a gentleman with my exact situation was trying to get his children registered as British. His father like mine was born in Mozambique, but his father was recorded as British Other Than By Descent. I am going to have to care for my father here in the UK, so want to make sure I have the legal right to remain. The best route for me being to try to get a British passport via my father. To do that I have to prove he is British Other Than by Descent. With Brexit looming this is becoming an important issue.
If anyone has any thoughts and knowledge I would be incredibly Grateful, Thank you
I have followed the site for a few years and finally joined yesterday. I have been trying to work out how to do a Forum posting, this seemed the only way I could do one. (I am not very good at Technology)
I am trying to clarify my UK status before the end of the year. My 91 Year old father living in the UK, was born in Mozambique to a British father and Portuguese mother. His parents have a British marriage certificate. My parents have a British marriage certificate from Southern Rhodesia. My father has only ever had a British birth certificate and in 2002 he tried to apply for a Mozambique birth certificate and was told his birth was only registered as British. I asked the Home Office to clarify his birth status and they say he is British by descent! There is a Forum posting here from 2017 which is now closed. Where a gentleman with my exact situation was trying to get his children registered as British. His father like mine was born in Mozambique, but his father was recorded as British Other Than By Descent. I am going to have to care for my father here in the UK, so want to make sure I have the legal right to remain. The best route for me being to try to get a British passport via my father. To do that I have to prove he is British Other Than by Descent. With Brexit looming this is becoming an important issue.
If anyone has any thoughts and knowledge I would be incredibly Grateful, Thank you
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I am intrigued by the possible relevance of this snippet you dropped in right at the end of your post. ..... Do you have a European passport? Are you currently living in the UK, or are you able to settle in the UK before end of 2020?
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Hi BritInParis - I followed a link in 2017 with 'Maxxine' whose situation was very similar to mine, his father was born in Mozambique, he was also born in Mozambique except he had a British passport! My father's birth certificate says 'Births within the District of the British Consul General at Lourenco Marques. The HO says "BC Sec 12(2) BNA 48 - Section 12(2) of the British Nationality Act of 1948 relates to an individual who gains their British Citizenship from birth, by descent. In your case that would be because your father was born in the UK" I was born in South Africa. I really appreciate your input!
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Hi Pulaski - yes I have a European passport and live in the UK for over 5 years. I work in South Africa and travel a lot. I would prefer to have UK citizenship rather than do the EU Settlement Scheme. Ultimately I am having to spend most of my time in the UK caring for my father who lives with me.
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Hi BritInParis - I followed a link in 2017 with 'Maxxine' whose situation was very similar to mine, his father was born in Mozambique, he was also born in Mozambique except he had a British passport! My father's birth certificate says 'Births within the District of the British Consul General at Lourenco Marques. The HO says "BC Sec 12(2) BNA 48 - Section 12(2) of the British Nationality Act of 1948 relates to an individual who gains their British Citizenship from birth, by descent. In your case that would be because your father was born in the UK" I was born in South Africa. I really appreciate your input!
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Hi Pulaski - yes I have a European passport and live in the UK for over 5 years. I work in South Africa and travel a lot. I would prefer to have UK citizenship rather than do the EU Settlement Scheme. Ultimately I am having to spend most of my time in the UK caring for my father who lives with me.
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Talking with my father again, he says he has only ever had a British birth certificate. He believes he is British by Birth as he only ever had a British birth certificate. Does anyone think it worth my while to employ a immigration lawyer to investigate this further?
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Hi BritInParis My father's father was born in the UK and his mother Mozambique. My mothers parents were both born in the UK. I have been struggling to find details of my mothers family details and will have to do a search through UK data records. They emigrated to Zimbabwe in the late 1800's. My Great grandfather was sent to South Africa to fight in the Boer war and ended up staying there. Thank you again for your incredible input!!
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Thank you for input, it is much appreciated. I hope the 'scouse' still has their accent? Best ever!
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