Does dyslexia exempt your spouse from the English language requirement?
Nov 12th 2016, 11:50 pm
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Re: Does dyslexia exempt your spouse from the English language requirement?
< snip > My question was not 'How can I get my dyslexic husband to learn a second language?' Also, Google doesn't have the answers to everything and sometimes it is better to ask people who have been through or are going through the same thing.
Babies are a terrible example. They learn through communication and at a ripe new age when they are just beginning their life, their brains are fresh and ready to absorb information. For an adult it is extremely difficult to learn a whole new language other than the one they were nurtured with. An adult brain has aged and will not absorb information at the same level a baby would and a dyslexic person's brain will definitely struggle triple times as much as the average person's brain.
Babies are a terrible example. They learn through communication and at a ripe new age when they are just beginning their life, their brains are fresh and ready to absorb information. For an adult it is extremely difficult to learn a whole new language other than the one they were nurtured with. An adult brain has aged and will not absorb information at the same level a baby would and a dyslexic person's brain will definitely struggle triple times as much as the average person's brain.
You appear to be very well informed as to learning abilities and, indeed, about Dyslexia.
As the answers you are being given do not suffice I would suggest you pursue professional or expertise advice.
Since there is no obvious statement from the Immigration department regarding dyslexia I assume they take each application on a one on one basis and the medical evidence which is presented.
Nov 13th 2016, 12:43 am
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Re: Does dyslexia exempt your spouse from the English language requirement?
michaeli has already provided the link to the relevant guidance:
6.3. Evidence required to demonstrate disability
To qualify for this exemption, the applicant must apply for it in their application and submit satisfactory medical evidence from a medical practitioner who is qualified in the appropriate field which sets out the relevant physical or mental condition and from which it may be concluded that exemption on those grounds is justified. Each application for an exemption on this basis will be considered on its merits on a case-by-case basis.
To qualify for this exemption, the applicant must apply for it in their application and submit satisfactory medical evidence from a medical practitioner who is qualified in the appropriate field which sets out the relevant physical or mental condition and from which it may be concluded that exemption on those grounds is justified. Each application for an exemption on this basis will be considered on its merits on a case-by-case basis.
Nov 13th 2016, 1:55 am
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Re: Does dyslexia exempt your spouse from the English language requirement?
< snip > My question was not 'How can I get my dyslexic husband to learn a second language?' Also, Google doesn't have the answers to everything and sometimes it is better to ask people who have been through or are going through the same thing.
Babies are a terrible example. They learn through communication and at a ripe new age when they are just beginning their life, their brains are fresh and ready to absorb information. For an adult it is extremely difficult to learn a whole new language other than the one they were nurtured with. An adult brain has aged and will not absorb information at the same level a baby would and a dyslexic person's brain will definitely struggle triple times as much as the average person's brain.
Babies are a terrible example. They learn through communication and at a ripe new age when they are just beginning their life, their brains are fresh and ready to absorb information. For an adult it is extremely difficult to learn a whole new language other than the one they were nurtured with. An adult brain has aged and will not absorb information at the same level a baby would and a dyslexic person's brain will definitely struggle triple times as much as the average person's brain.
Any adult trying to learn a new language will require to be immersed in the language and culture in order to become proficient, learning situationally in context - how much more so for an adult with dyslexia. It takes motivation and a lot of immersion. Many adults fall down on learning a second language because they don't immerse themselves on a daily basis.
That being said, perhaps posters are attempting to help you to help your husband learn the language, as there is a high degree of possibility that your husband's application for exemption will be turned down.
Perhaps getting off your high horse a bit and being a little less offensive would endear you to others on the site who are only too willing to offer advice.
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Nov 13th 2016, 3:21 am
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Re: Does dyslexia exempt your spouse from the English language requirement?
Actually, babies are not a terrible example - babies are immersed in the language from day 1 and learn through watching, learning and experimenting with sound.
Any adult trying to learn a new language will require to be immersed in the language and culture in order to become proficient, learning situationally in context
Any adult trying to learn a new language will require to be immersed in the language and culture in order to become proficient, learning situationally in context
Which is why the basic English language requirement for a visa to enter the UK, is a lower standard to the Engish language requirement needed for further leave to remain (their second spouse visa).
"Introduce from 1 May 2017 a new English language requirement at level A2of the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages for
applicants for further leave in the UK as a partner or parent, after completing 30 months here on a 5-year route to settlement under Appendix FM."
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...Accessible.pdf
Nov 13th 2016, 10:44 am
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Re: Does dyslexia exempt your spouse from the English language requirement?
Good luck to the OP's husband with his special difficulty...
Nov 14th 2016, 10:35 pm
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Re: Does dyslexia exempt your spouse from the English language requirement?
Actually, babies are not a terrible example - babies are immersed in the language from day 1 and learn through watching, learning and experimenting with sound.
Any adult trying to learn a new language will require to be immersed in the language and culture in order to become proficient, learning situationally in context - how much more so for an adult with dyslexia. It takes motivation and a lot of immersion. Many adults fall down on learning a second language because they don't immerse themselves on a daily basis.
That being said, perhaps posters are attempting to help you to help your husband learn the language, as there is a high degree of possibility that your husband's application for exemption will be turned down.
Perhaps getting off your high horse a bit and being a little less offensive would endear you to others on the site who are only too willing to offer advice.
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Any adult trying to learn a new language will require to be immersed in the language and culture in order to become proficient, learning situationally in context - how much more so for an adult with dyslexia. It takes motivation and a lot of immersion. Many adults fall down on learning a second language because they don't immerse themselves on a daily basis.
That being said, perhaps posters are attempting to help you to help your husband learn the language, as there is a high degree of possibility that your husband's application for exemption will be turned down.
Perhaps getting off your high horse a bit and being a little less offensive would endear you to others on the site who are only too willing to offer advice.
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Nov 14th 2016, 10:37 pm
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Re: Does dyslexia exempt your spouse from the English language requirement?
You appear to be very well informed as to learning abilities and, indeed, about Dyslexia.
As the answers you are being given do not suffice I would suggest you pursue professional or expertise advice.
Since there is no obvious statement from the Immigration department regarding dyslexia I assume they take each application on a one on one basis and the medical evidence which is presented.
As the answers you are being given do not suffice I would suggest you pursue professional or expertise advice.
Since there is no obvious statement from the Immigration department regarding dyslexia I assume they take each application on a one on one basis and the medical evidence which is presented.
Kind regards,
Minhal
Nov 14th 2016, 10:38 pm
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Re: Does dyslexia exempt your spouse from the English language requirement?
Always. I am constantly speaking in English to him, it's not making much difference unfortunately. Plus because of the time difference (five hours!) we hardly get to talk. 😢
Nov 14th 2016, 10:39 pm
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Re: Does dyslexia exempt your spouse from the English language requirement?
In Continental Europe, a lot of British expats married to English-speaking Europeans have to learn the language when moving to their new country - many have never learnt another language beforehand and find it very difficult. A native spouse is the best source of the language to be learnt, at least for communicating orally.
Good luck to the OP's husband with his special difficulty...
Good luck to the OP's husband with his special difficulty...
Nov 14th 2016, 10:41 pm
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Re: Does dyslexia exempt your spouse from the English language requirement?
Which is why the basic English language requirement for a visa to enter the UK, is a lower standard to the Engish language requirement needed for further leave to remain (their second spouse visa).
"Introduce from 1 May 2017 a new English language requirement at level A2of the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages for
applicants for further leave in the UK as a partner or parent, after completing 30 months here on a 5-year route to settlement under Appendix FM."
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...Accessible.pdf
"Introduce from 1 May 2017 a new English language requirement at level A2of the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages for
applicants for further leave in the UK as a partner or parent, after completing 30 months here on a 5-year route to settlement under Appendix FM."
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...Accessible.pdf
Nov 15th 2016, 12:37 am
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Re: Does dyslexia exempt your spouse from the English language requirement?
Right then.
I am rather edgy and weary from two nights sleeping on my lounge floor following the rather nasty New Zealand earthquakes which are still shaking.
So. No more snippy remarks please, either from the OP or anyone else.
If anyone sees anything from the OP or anyone else that is less than polite , please hit the report button.
I am rather edgy and weary from two nights sleeping on my lounge floor following the rather nasty New Zealand earthquakes which are still shaking.
So. No more snippy remarks please, either from the OP or anyone else.
If anyone sees anything from the OP or anyone else that is less than polite , please hit the report button.
Nov 15th 2016, 1:05 am
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Re: Does dyslexia exempt your spouse from the English language requirement?
Right then.
I am rather edgy and weary from two nights sleeping on my lounge floor following the rather nasty New Zealand earthquakes which are still shaking.
So. No more snippy remarks please, either from the OP or anyone else.
If anyone sees anything from the OP or anyone else that is less than polite , please hit the report button.
I am rather edgy and weary from two nights sleeping on my lounge floor following the rather nasty New Zealand earthquakes which are still shaking.
So. No more snippy remarks please, either from the OP or anyone else.
If anyone sees anything from the OP or anyone else that is less than polite , please hit the report button.
I sincerely hope you and yours are well given recent events in your part of the world. Stay well!
Nov 15th 2016, 8:19 pm
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Re: Does dyslexia exempt your spouse from the English language requirement?
Right then.
I am rather edgy and weary from two nights sleeping on my lounge floor following the rather nasty New Zealand earthquakes which are still shaking.
So. No more snippy remarks please, either from the OP or anyone else.
If anyone sees anything from the OP or anyone else that is less than polite , please hit the report button.
I am rather edgy and weary from two nights sleeping on my lounge floor following the rather nasty New Zealand earthquakes which are still shaking.
So. No more snippy remarks please, either from the OP or anyone else.
If anyone sees anything from the OP or anyone else that is less than polite , please hit the report button.
It's fustrating enough having to go through seperation from my husband and dealing with so much, on top of that I have to deal with judgements and assumptions from people on the Internet that I have asked to help me.
Anyway, as upsetting as this all is, I'm leaving the forum. If expressing annoyance at replies that are thoroughly NOT informative or helpful is considered taboo here, I shall look elsewhere.
Thank you to everyone who replied with helpful answers.
Nov 15th 2016, 8:33 pm
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Re: Does dyslexia exempt your spouse from the English language requirement?
As you wish.
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