British Citizen Unfamiliar with the UK
#16
Re: British Citizen Unfamiliar with the UK
Good luck!
My son went to UK after graduating (albeit a different time, almost a decade ago) and it took him a while to get into his chosen field but, now there, he has great career prospects ) but at first he took whatever was on offer and it was amazing that once he had a job just keeping the wolf from the door he got the job he really wanted. It is much easier to get a job if you are there in person rather than vying with loads of other applicants from the other side of the world.
Just save up like crazy, check out http://www.gumtree.com/?hp=1 and pick a place you want to try living in. Most youngsters have at least a little while in London just for the buzz of it all.
My son went to UK after graduating (albeit a different time, almost a decade ago) and it took him a while to get into his chosen field but, now there, he has great career prospects ) but at first he took whatever was on offer and it was amazing that once he had a job just keeping the wolf from the door he got the job he really wanted. It is much easier to get a job if you are there in person rather than vying with loads of other applicants from the other side of the world.
Just save up like crazy, check out http://www.gumtree.com/?hp=1 and pick a place you want to try living in. Most youngsters have at least a little while in London just for the buzz of it all.
#17
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Nah, not softened up, the law was tightened so that tips meant for staff had to be given to staff. If they could get away with keeping tips they'd probably still be doing it!
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Re: British Citizen Unfamiliar with the UK
Now that you come to mention it I do recall that some of the big restaurant groups like Paramount/Bertorelli/Groupe Chez Gerard were paying below minimum wage and using the service charge, tips and gratuities to top-up wages to minimum and this was quite obviously ruled illegal. Ba....ds!
#19
Re: British Citizen Unfamiliar with the UK
Good luck!
My son went to UK after graduating (albeit a different time, almost a decade ago) and it took him a while to get into his chosen field but, now there, he has great career prospects ) but at first he took whatever was on offer and it was amazing that once he had a job just keeping the wolf from the door he got the job he really wanted. It is much easier to get a job if you are there in person rather than vying with loads of other applicants from the other side of the world.
Just save up like crazy, check out http://www.gumtree.com/?hp=1 and pick a place you want to try living in. Most youngsters have at least a little while in London just for the buzz of it all.
My son went to UK after graduating (albeit a different time, almost a decade ago) and it took him a while to get into his chosen field but, now there, he has great career prospects ) but at first he took whatever was on offer and it was amazing that once he had a job just keeping the wolf from the door he got the job he really wanted. It is much easier to get a job if you are there in person rather than vying with loads of other applicants from the other side of the world.
Just save up like crazy, check out http://www.gumtree.com/?hp=1 and pick a place you want to try living in. Most youngsters have at least a little while in London just for the buzz of it all.
#20
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Of course whatever you can add by doing the burger-flipping or maybe slightly better will help a lot. You should be able to get 7 pounds or so an hour plus hopefully an element of any service charge and tips and staff meals which all put together add up. I guess the point of my previous post was to get an appreciation that IF you can indeed bring 3-5,000 or a bit more as a kitty then you are taking pressure off yourself when it comes to focusing on priority A. Otherwise you can end up with a bit of a juggling act.
My son initially found restaurant work by applying to an agency which hired out staff for set piece events in Glasgow. This gave him the experience to later go direct to restaurants and pizzerias though the wages are really not that different on a direct basis and even supervisors are close to minimum wage. There were the meals and better tips though and in the last year or so employers seem to have softened up and handed over some if not all of the service charge they used to keep for themselves.
My son initially found restaurant work by applying to an agency which hired out staff for set piece events in Glasgow. This gave him the experience to later go direct to restaurants and pizzerias though the wages are really not that different on a direct basis and even supervisors are close to minimum wage. There were the meals and better tips though and in the last year or so employers seem to have softened up and handed over some if not all of the service charge they used to keep for themselves.
I think someone can't remember now suggested I make the move before trying to find a job from the US. I know that before the new immigration laws were implemented I would see UK recruiters here in the US from my field all the time, now not so much. Thankfully the law does not affect me.
#21
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Re: British Citizen Unfamiliar with the UK
I think you will find it difficult to find a flat before you arrive there and advertisements can be very deceiving. Also, knowing no one is seriously no fun if you are in your 20's and fresh off the boat. I am assuming you are going to London. Why dont you consider staying in a central London backpackers for the first week or two, some of them do single rooms. Then in that time go and view flat share options around the city. That way you can get a nice single room in a house, you might have to share a kitchen and bathroom, or you might have a en suite, and meet other people quickly. A flat share will almost always be furnished too, so you will literally need to buy bedding and a towel. In the mean time keep a eye on gumtree to get a idea of locations and prices. And you will probably not be tied down too much, if you really dont like the people you are sharing with or the area, most of the time your responsibility only goes as far as advertising and finding someone to replace you. Good luck.
#22
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Re: British Citizen Unfamiliar with the UK
Another good source for info, jobs and accommodation (Londoncentric I'm afraid!) is the TNT magazine website.
The printed (free of charge) TNT magazine is found in big cities, often in travel agencies such as Trailfinders and STA, railway stations, near big tourist attractions - usually the British Commonwealth countries eg. Australia, NZ, South Africa, Canada where traditionally backpackers from the Commonwealth countries go to live and work for a year or two on working holiday visas. However, it's a mine of information and good for meeting up with other like-minded young people.
Scroll down the Home Page and you will see the section on "Moving to London" including how to set up a bank account, looking for a place to live etc:
http://www.tntmagazine.com/
Hope this helps!
The printed (free of charge) TNT magazine is found in big cities, often in travel agencies such as Trailfinders and STA, railway stations, near big tourist attractions - usually the British Commonwealth countries eg. Australia, NZ, South Africa, Canada where traditionally backpackers from the Commonwealth countries go to live and work for a year or two on working holiday visas. However, it's a mine of information and good for meeting up with other like-minded young people.
Scroll down the Home Page and you will see the section on "Moving to London" including how to set up a bank account, looking for a place to live etc:
http://www.tntmagazine.com/
Hope this helps!
#23
Re: British Citizen Unfamiliar with the UK
I think you will find it difficult to find a flat before you arrive there and advertisements can be very deceiving. Also, knowing no one is seriously no fun if you are in your 20's and fresh off the boat. I am assuming you are going to London. Why dont you consider staying in a central London backpackers for the first week or two, some of them do single rooms. Then in that time go and view flat share options around the city. That way you can get a nice single room in a house, you might have to share a kitchen and bathroom, or you might have a en suite, and meet other people quickly. A flat share will almost always be furnished too, so you will literally need to buy bedding and a towel. In the mean time keep a eye on gumtree to get a idea of locations and prices. And you will probably not be tied down too much, if you really dont like the people you are sharing with or the area, most of the time your responsibility only goes as far as advertising and finding someone to replace you. Good luck.
#24
Re: British Citizen Unfamiliar with the UK
Another good source for info, jobs and accommodation (Londoncentric I'm afraid!) is the TNT magazine website.
The printed (free of charge) TNT magazine is found in big cities, often in travel agencies such as Trailfinders and STA, railway stations, near big tourist attractions - usually the British Commonwealth countries eg. Australia, NZ, South Africa, Canada where traditionally backpackers from the Commonwealth countries go to live and work for a year or two on working holiday visas. However, it's a mine of information and good for meeting up with other like-minded young people.
Scroll down the Home Page and you will see the section on "Moving to London" including how to set up a bank account, looking for a place to live etc:
http://www.tntmagazine.com/
Hope this helps!
The printed (free of charge) TNT magazine is found in big cities, often in travel agencies such as Trailfinders and STA, railway stations, near big tourist attractions - usually the British Commonwealth countries eg. Australia, NZ, South Africa, Canada where traditionally backpackers from the Commonwealth countries go to live and work for a year or two on working holiday visas. However, it's a mine of information and good for meeting up with other like-minded young people.
Scroll down the Home Page and you will see the section on "Moving to London" including how to set up a bank account, looking for a place to live etc:
http://www.tntmagazine.com/
Hope this helps!
#25
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Re: British Citizen Unfamiliar with the UK
http://www.hostels.com/london/england
And then you would probably want to move on to a flat share. Remember to look on googlemaps where these properties are in relation to the nearest Undergound (tube) station. Do you have a idea where jobs like yours will be based? Either city centre, Canary Wharf, out by Heathrow or a business park outside of the city? Just things to think about. Google will become your new best friend.
http://london.spareroom.co.uk/
http://www.moveflat.com/
http://www.intolondon.com/
http://www.gumtree.com/flatshare/london
#26
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Thanks for the advice. What I am studying in graduate school is on the "shortage occupation list" so that is why I was thinking that I would be able to get a job before I left. Others have done it before the immigration laws became more stringent (thankfully it doesn't apply to me) but yes you do have a point about savings.
Currently I do have a decent nest egg and by next year it will get better. Do you think £3,000 to £5,000 is enough for 6 months?
Currently I do have a decent nest egg and by next year it will get better. Do you think £3,000 to £5,000 is enough for 6 months?
Have a look at room share prices in London.
http://www.gumtree.com/london/2547_1.html
Anything from £75 per week to £200 pw. It won't be luxury either. Get something that includes all bills or find out how much they'll be. You'll need deposit money up front as well, which may not be refunded either.
Make sure you have a laptop with internet access e.g. buy a 3G dongle when you get there etc... it will be your life blood. Research for best deals e.g. no expiry.
Travelcard per month could easily be £100+ depending on travel zones.
Without working, £5000 for six months won't be enough IMO. Also have a plan for access to extra funds from the US, if needed.
Good luck!
Last edited by Alfresco; Jun 1st 2011 at 10:25 am.
#27
Re: British Citizen Unfamiliar with the UK
Does anyone know if Brigette would be entitled to any benefits?
#28
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There's income support for starters, if you are working less than sixteen hours a week.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTax...me/DG_10018708
or Jobseeker's Allowance:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTax...rk/DG_10014402
Housing Benefit:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTax...me/DG_10018926
and maybe Tax Credits:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTax...dits/index.htm
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTax...me/DG_10018708
or Jobseeker's Allowance:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTax...rk/DG_10014402
Housing Benefit:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTax...me/DG_10018926
and maybe Tax Credits:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTax...dits/index.htm
Last edited by Pistolpete2; Jun 1st 2011 at 1:18 pm.
#29
Re: British Citizen Unfamiliar with the UK
There's income support for starters, if you are working less than sixteen hours a week.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTax...me/DG_10018708
or Jobseeker's Allowance:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTax...rk/DG_10014402
Housing Benefit:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTax...me/DG_10018926
and maybe Tax Credits:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTax...dits/index.htm
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTax...me/DG_10018708
or Jobseeker's Allowance:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTax...rk/DG_10014402
Housing Benefit:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTax...me/DG_10018926
and maybe Tax Credits:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTax...dits/index.htm
#30
Re: British Citizen Unfamiliar with the UK
Hi Brigette,
Have a look at room share prices in London.
http://www.gumtree.com/london/2547_1.html
Anything from £75 per week to £200 pw. It won't be luxury either. Get something that includes all bills or find out how much they'll be. You'll need deposit money up front as well, which may not be refunded either.
Make sure you have a laptop with internet access e.g. buy a 3G dongle when you get there etc... it will be your life blood. Research for best deals e.g. no expiry.
Travelcard per month could easily be £100+ depending on travel zones.
Without working, £5000 for six months won't be enough IMO. Also have a plan for access to extra funds from the US, if needed.
Good luck!
Have a look at room share prices in London.
http://www.gumtree.com/london/2547_1.html
Anything from £75 per week to £200 pw. It won't be luxury either. Get something that includes all bills or find out how much they'll be. You'll need deposit money up front as well, which may not be refunded either.
Make sure you have a laptop with internet access e.g. buy a 3G dongle when you get there etc... it will be your life blood. Research for best deals e.g. no expiry.
Travelcard per month could easily be £100+ depending on travel zones.
Without working, £5000 for six months won't be enough IMO. Also have a plan for access to extra funds from the US, if needed.
Good luck!