Am I eligible for citizenship?
#16
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Re: Am I eligible for citizenship?
I have a question, please. I am British born, still hold a British passport, but have lived for decades in America as a permanent resident. My 3 adult children were all born in America (1967-1972), their father being American. Do my adult children have 'right of abode' in England, based on their mother (me) still being a British citizen? I should also say their maternal grandmother and their great-grandmother were both British born as well. Also, to add...is there any application of 'right to abode' extended to grandchildren?
I have tried to understand the laws surrounding 'right of abode' at the UK govt site...but alas, am still left confounded.
Thanks in advance!
I have tried to understand the laws surrounding 'right of abode' at the UK govt site...but alas, am still left confounded.
Thanks in advance!
#17
Re: Am I eligible for citizenship?
Thanks for the response, Ozhappy. Would you or someone have the link to the particular place on the UK govt site that has this definitive information? Thanks again!!
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#19
Re: Am I eligible for citizenship?
Does this help? http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/br...britishmother/
#20
Re: Am I eligible for citizenship?
I have a question, please. I am British born, still hold a British passport, but have lived for decades in America as a permanent resident. My 3 adult children were all born in America (1967-1972), their father being American. Do my adult children have 'right of abode' in England, based on their mother (me) still being a British citizen?
HOWEVER, it appears they are entitled to apply for British citizenship if they wish.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/br...britishmother/
I should also say their maternal grandmother and their great-grandmother were both British born as well. Also, to add...is there any application of 'right to abode' extended to grandchildren?
However, if your children become British citizens and move to the UK, they can sponsor their own children to settle in the UK and become British citizens after a few years.
Out of interest, why have you not taken out US citizenship yourself, after so long in the USA. It is not recommended to remain a foreigner without having a very good reason.
#21
Re: Am I eligible for citizenship?
They're not British citizens and they don't have Right of Abode because they are US citizens (not Canadian, Australian, NZ etc - you need to be a Commonwealth country citizen to get ROA from a British mother).
HOWEVER, it appears they are entitled to apply for British citizenship if they wish.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/br...britishmother/
No. The UK Ancestry Visa is not open to non-Commonwealth citizens.
However, if your children become British citizens and move to the UK, they can sponsor their own children to settle in the UK and become British citizens after a few years.
Out of interest, why have you not taken out US citizenship yourself, after so long in the USA. It is not recommended to remain a foreigner without having a very good reason.
HOWEVER, it appears they are entitled to apply for British citizenship if they wish.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/br...britishmother/
No. The UK Ancestry Visa is not open to non-Commonwealth citizens.
However, if your children become British citizens and move to the UK, they can sponsor their own children to settle in the UK and become British citizens after a few years.
Out of interest, why have you not taken out US citizenship yourself, after so long in the USA. It is not recommended to remain a foreigner without having a very good reason.
I also have another question, in regards to my 1/2 siblings (we all have the same British born mother). Would this rule hold true for my sibs, even though our British born mother is now deceased?
Re: US citizenship...I simply have had no interest in becoming a US Citizen, no rhyme or definitive reason. I have never been questioned in the US, nor have ever had any problems here in the US as a permanent resident all these years. Honestly, I sincerely doubt anyone in America would think me a 'foreigner' when I start speaking. I have a 'dyed in the wool' Chicago accent. Now if I went over to UK...you betcha someone would notice my accent and definitely think 'foreigner'. I went thru this when I lived in England back in the 60's. Wherever I went (including at my place of employment there)..as soon as I started speaking...I heard 'American' or 'Yank'. Should I ever return I would have to glue my birth certificate to my forehead..I'm sure!
As far as the citizenship thing or lack of...for me...so far, so good.
#22
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Re: Am I eligible for citizenship?
Hi i wonder if anyone can give me any advise?
My name is Rory, my family and i moved to the states when i was 5 (i am now 22) we had green cards and were resisdents. Due to my father loosing his father his mother was on her own and we had to move back to look after her. as i was only 5/6 i didnt have much of a choice! and i was obviously to young to try move back there until now.
As i am now 22 i am desperate to move back there. i have lots of friends out there still who i visit quite alot. Ive researched on the net a little bit and seen i may be able to apply for a SB 1 visa? is this possible?
Any advice would eb greatly appricated.
Rory
My name is Rory, my family and i moved to the states when i was 5 (i am now 22) we had green cards and were resisdents. Due to my father loosing his father his mother was on her own and we had to move back to look after her. as i was only 5/6 i didnt have much of a choice! and i was obviously to young to try move back there until now.
As i am now 22 i am desperate to move back there. i have lots of friends out there still who i visit quite alot. Ive researched on the net a little bit and seen i may be able to apply for a SB 1 visa? is this possible?
Any advice would eb greatly appricated.
Rory
#23
Re: Am I eligible for citizenship?
I have a question, please. I am British born, still hold a British passport, but have lived for decades in America as a permanent resident. My 3 adult children were all born in America (1967-1972), their father being American. Do my adult children have 'right of abode' in England, based on their mother (me) still being a British citizen? I should also say their maternal grandmother and their great-grandmother were both British born as well. Also, to add...is there any application of 'right to abode' extended to grandchildren?
I have tried to understand the laws surrounding 'right of abode' at the UK govt site...but alas, am still left confounded.
Thanks in advance!
I have tried to understand the laws surrounding 'right of abode' at the UK govt site...but alas, am still left confounded.
Thanks in advance!
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/br...britishmother/
#24
Re: Am I eligible for citizenship?
This may help you I hope. IT is very confusing but I have been getting ready to do this myself as my Mother was a GI bride and born in London but all 3 of us children were born in the US with an American Father. Born between the years 1948-1959. Follow this link and also see to the right of that page the UKM guide.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/br...britishmother/
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/br...britishmother/
#25
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Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Re: Am I eligible for citizenship?
Hi, I'm in the same situation, born in England, moved here in 1966, my 3 children were born between 1970 & 1978, father is American. They are British by descent, but I'm wondering if they can apply for a UK passport without registering as a British citizen
#26
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No...sincerely doubt that could happen. One holds a passport of a specific country, because one is a 'citizen' of that country. As I now have recently learned for myself...one does not lose their citizenship of one country, when applying for citizenship of the other. I'm a British citizen..I can become a US citizen and still retain my UK citizenship...same for your children, because they are born of a British mother who was born in the UK. They will keep their US citizenship, be UK citizens and carry both US & UK passports...that's an absolute plus in my book!! Am hoping my American adult children, will avail themselves of this opportunity.
#27
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Re: Am I eligible for citizenship?
No...sincerely doubt that could happen. One holds a passport of a specific country, because one is a 'citizen' of that country. As I now have recently learned for myself...one does not lose their citizenship of one country, when applying for citizenship of the other. I'm a British citizen..I can become a US citizen and still retain my UK citizenship...same for your children, because they are born of a British mother who was born in the UK. They will keep their US citizenship, be UK citizens and carry both US & UK passports...that's an absolute plus in my book!! Am hoping my American adult children, will avail themselves of this opportunity.
#28
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I totally agree with you, although I have no desire to become a US citizen, my children would like to be recognized as UK citizens (dual citizenship). My question (for anyone that maybe able to help me here) is because they were born before 1983, do they have to register as British citizens on form UKM before applying for their British passports?
Yes I will have to register as a UK citizen before I can apply for a UK Passport. They can follow the guidelines in the UKM and apply and it will take about 3 months. Send all original documents such as Birth cert etc. Once they have their UK citizenship and after the ceremony they can apply for their passports.
http://ukinusa.fco.gov.uk/en/help-fo...w-to-apply/usa
I will be sending off my citizenship app in July and hopefully can then send off for my passport app by the end of the year.
Last edited by creamern; Apr 3rd 2011 at 11:07 pm.
#29
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Re: Am I eligible for citizenship?
Thanks, I thought that they probably had to do that first, but now they can get going on it. One more question for you (as you are going to be applying soon) on the required documentation, the first item is your passport. My kids have never had a passport......how about you?
#30
Re: Am I eligible for citizenship?
Thanks, I thought that they probably had to do that first, but now they can get going on it. One more question for you (as you are going to be applying soon) on the required documentation, the first item is your passport. My kids have never had a passport......how about you?