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graham from yorkshire Feb 26th 2013 5:16 am

Working in calgary as cladder
 
Hi. Been offered a job working around Calgary as industrial cladder.
Any one else do this type of work.
What's it like when it's cold. Is it bearable.
What's the cost of living and life style like.
This is all new to me, so any advice would be welcome.
Thanks

christmasoompa Feb 26th 2013 5:43 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 
Cost of living will be about the same as in the UK, have a search to find previous threads on the subject and there is also a Wiki article.

I'm sure those in the AB construction industry will help you re: winter work.

Good luck.

graham from yorkshire Feb 26th 2013 5:47 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 
Cheers

Beaverquest Feb 26th 2013 1:11 pm

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by graham from yorkshire (Post 10571278)
Hi. Been offered a job working around Calgary as industrial cladder.
Any one else do this type of work.
What's it like when it's cold. Is it bearable.
What's the cost of living and life style like.
This is all new to me, so any advice would be welcome.
Thanks

i would'nt work outside in the winter
- am sure you'll get all the 'theres no such thing as cold weather just bad clothes' etc bollocks, and the merits of layering....
but being stuck up a building in the hooring wind all day
cost of living - more pages than war & peace have been written on this
-my own thoughts are generally pretty close over the piece
lifestyle - okay if you've got kids/family
as a young couple/single ; i would not bother

R I C H Feb 26th 2013 3:39 pm

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by Beaverquest (Post 10572067)
i would'nt work outside in the winter
- am sure you'll get all the 'theres no such thing as cold weather just bad clothes' etc bollocks, and the merits of layering....
but being stuck up a building in the hooring wind all day

Just because you wouldn't, doesn't mean it's not feasible for anyone else.

I worked outdoors through my first 5 winters here and survived just fine. Good clothing does matter, to say it's bollocks is just ignorant.

Beaverquest Feb 26th 2013 3:54 pm

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 10572201)
Just because you wouldn't, doesn't mean it's not feasible for anyone else.

I worked outdoors through my first 5 winters here and survived just fine. Good clothing does matter, to say it's bollocks is just ignorant.

kamloops is calgary ?

still bollocks

cheeky_monkey Feb 27th 2013 12:27 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by Beaverquest (Post 10572216)
kamloops is calgary ?

still bollocks

Know much about construction during the winter?

Beaverquest Feb 27th 2013 5:47 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 10572917)
Know much about construction during the winter?

do you ?

TheThornes Feb 27th 2013 7:53 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 
I really know nothing about construction so correct me if I'm wrong but, in winter, don't some buildings under construction have a big puffy looking layer put around them; is this to keep the cold out/keep the workers warmer or for some other reason? I really don't know; just curious. We had a building in our town that was put up a few months ago; not much more than a steel frame before it turned into something resembling a giant marshmallow overnight. :unsure:

scottishstacey Feb 27th 2013 8:56 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 
I wondered about this too because my oh is looking for operator jobs but we wondered about winter time. I've saw one or two jobs say the season runs from March to December (I think) but I've saw others that seem to be all year round, maybe it depends on what you do. I'll keep a eye on the thread!

clay Feb 27th 2013 8:57 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 
I worked outside this winter..minus34. No big problem if you have the right gear on.

graham from yorkshire Feb 27th 2013 9:03 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by clay (Post 10574031)
I worked outside this winter..minus34. No big problem if you have the right gear on.

What's the best work boots to buy and work wear for keeping warm when working out side in winter. Thanks

R I C H Feb 27th 2013 9:58 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by Beaverquest (Post 10572216)
kamloops is calgary ?

still bollocks

I've regularly worked at -20 with windchill on top, operating machinery for hours on end and not suffered. The principal is the same.

You're obviously not talking from any experience if a childish comeback is all you can offer.

R I C H Feb 27th 2013 9:59 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by graham from yorkshire (Post 10574040)
What's the best work boots to buy and work wear for keeping warm when working out side in winter. Thanks

I swear by these: http://www.cabelas.ca/product/7675/i...-tracker-boots Never had cold feet with them. Not steel toed if you need that though.

graham from yorkshire Feb 27th 2013 10:08 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 10574143)
I swear by these: http://www.cabelas.ca/product/7675/i...-tracker-boots Never had cold feet with them. Not steel toed if you need that though.

Yeah got to wear steel toed boots, so wanting some warm ones.
Also, I hear carharrt work wear is good, especially, carharrt arctic coveralls.

Beaverquest Feb 27th 2013 10:13 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 10574138)
I've regularly worked at -20 with windchill on top, operating machinery for hours on end and not suffered. The principal is the same.

You're obviously not talking from any experience if a childish comeback is all you can offer.

aw sorry mate

point i was trying to make that -40oC in Calgary is not same as -20oC in Kamloops - working machinery and being outside and at elevation

if you're in UK you have no concept of how cold it can get here

did you drive a tractor ?

R I C H Feb 27th 2013 11:01 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by Beaverquest (Post 10574161)
aw sorry mate

point i was trying to make that -40oC in Calgary is not same as -20oC in Kamloops - working machinery and being outside and at elevation

if you're in UK you have no concept of how cold it can get here

did you drive a tractor ?

Open cab tractor and other various farm machinery, from 4am onwards. I've erected steel structures in the winter, dealt with frozen water lines and wherever else broke, froze or needed repair.

Yes, Calgary can get colder than Kamloops, but I stand by the premise that decent clothing makes life bearable through the winter. Life doesn't stop for some cold.

mandymoochops Feb 27th 2013 11:17 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by Beaverquest (Post 10574161)
aw sorry mate

point i was trying to make that -40oC in Calgary is not same as -20oC in Kamloops - working machinery and being outside and at elevation

if you're in UK you have no concept of how cold it can get here

did you drive a tractor ?

Thats not all the time though, we've probably had a few days this year (and some last) that were minus 30 (then the windchill) - irrespective, it's all doable - it's when your tools and machinery start to malfunction thats the problem - not the operator :)

Mr Bean Feb 27th 2013 11:46 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 
I've climbed mountains on a few continents and some I wouldn't have done in a pair of shorts.

Dress for the occasion.:)

Steve_P Feb 27th 2013 4:26 pm

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by Beaverquest (Post 10574161)
point i was trying to make that -40oC in Calgary is not same as -20oC in Kamloops - working machinery and being outside and at elevation

Gotta love the way people throw out the -40°C card. :D

Last time it was -40°C in Calgary was January 1997. :p

snowgo Feb 27th 2013 5:54 pm

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by graham from yorkshire (Post 10574154)
Yeah got to wear steel toed boots, so wanting some warm ones.
Also, I hear carharrt work wear is good, especially, carharrt arctic coveralls.

Work outside all winter? To be avoided if possible. Lungs might have a bit of a hard time depending on the exertion levels. Other than that dexterity becomes a problem with your deer skin or other thermal gloves. All the layers make it tough just to bend over to pick up a pencil. I did it for 3 yrs down to 35 below. Not the end of the world but I would avoid manual work in these temps on my next trip. Good luck

Beaverquest Feb 28th 2013 6:01 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 10574516)
Gotta love the way people throw out the -40°C card. :D

Last time it was -40°C in Calgary was January 1997. :p

okay -30oc then

point am trying to make is if you're thinking of applying from UK and used to cladding in even the most extreme of yorkshire winter - what you may find here is too much - see post above

appreciate some people fancy themselves as ranulph fiennes/shackleton/scott etc

it's all just numbers until you've been out in it

mandymoochops Feb 28th 2013 6:13 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by snowgo (Post 10574593)
Work outside all winter? To be avoided if possible. Lungs might have a bit of a hard time depending on the exertion levels. Other than that dexterity becomes a problem with your deer skin or other thermal gloves. All the layers make it tough just to bend over to pick up a pencil. I did it for 3 yrs down to 35 below. Not the end of the world but I would avoid manual work in these temps on my next trip. Good luck


Then an entry level rig position is definitely not for you.

snowgo Feb 28th 2013 6:18 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 10575852)
Then an entry level rig position is definitely not for you.

I agree but the point is I am willing to start over and work my way up within that sector. I am very interested in the drilling MWD side of the industry.

Anyhow we are all moving back out on the 13th of June. We will make it work this time.

clay Feb 28th 2013 8:15 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by clay (Post 10574031)
I worked outside this winter..minus34. No big problem if you have the right gear on.

Dakota do a winter boot there 300 $ clothing.. Hello Hanson, u will get it all out here..

clay Feb 28th 2013 8:17 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 
Don't be put of with the cold.. It's okay really.. I like it...lol

graham from yorkshire Feb 28th 2013 8:20 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by clay (Post 10576045)
Don't be put of with the cold.. It's okay really.. I like it...lol

Is the cold realy that bad. I work year round out side in UK, but never get cold enough to wear thicker clothing,

scottishstacey Feb 28th 2013 8:25 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by graham from yorkshire (Post 10576050)
Is the cold realy that bad. I work year round out side in UK, but never get cold enough to wear thicker clothing,

Obviously theres a big difference between canada cold and our cold but i reckon you'll be fine with the right clothing :)

iaink Feb 28th 2013 8:27 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by graham from yorkshire (Post 10576050)
Is the cold realy that bad. I work year round out side in UK, but never get cold enough to wear thicker clothing,

Its not going to be like the UK, thats for sure.

Some people deal with it, others dont. When the suns out its quite pleasant, when the winds blowing, well, not so much...

Ive been surprised what I can do in the depths of the Ontario winter, but I always look at the buggers working outside on the building outside my office window in the snow or when its -25C and blowing and I say a little thankyou that Im not one of them....


The main thing that would suck if trying to do fiddly dextrous work that requires thin or no gloves I would guess.

graham from yorkshire Feb 28th 2013 8:36 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by scottishstacey (Post 10576056)
Obviously theres a big difference between canada cold and our cold but i reckon you'll be fine with the right clothing :)

Would be good driving a digger with the heater on over there. Lol

scottishstacey Feb 28th 2013 9:09 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by graham from yorkshire (Post 10576067)
Would be good driving a digger with the heater on over there. Lol

Lol you should see if you can get one of those jobs instead of your glazier one. Probably less money though

clay Feb 28th 2013 11:09 am

Re: Working in calgary as cladder
 

Originally Posted by graham from yorkshire (Post 10576050)
Is the cold realy that bad. I work year round out side in UK, but never get cold enough to wear thicker clothing,

I'm a scaffolder. Wear good gear and it's fine.. Honestly.. I'm used to working in cold though


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