work related accident
#61
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Re: work related accident
Although on the Business side, it's not really in the States interest to see businesses close and people lose their jobs.
Although I still dont understand your opposition to the Govmt providing WCB?
#62
Joined: Aug 2005
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Re: work related accident
Because insurance should be in the private sector.
#65
Re: work related accident
Yes but i'm still confused. Who initially calculated the price of mental anguish, pain, and stress?
I can understand claiming for loss of earnings, rehab, therapy, prescriptions, time taken to attend rehab/therapy, etc. It's the extra claiming for suffering, anguish, and stress i don't get. Unless i'm missing something.
I can understand claiming for loss of earnings, rehab, therapy, prescriptions, time taken to attend rehab/therapy, etc. It's the extra claiming for suffering, anguish, and stress i don't get. Unless i'm missing something.
#66
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Re: work related accident
There isn't much of a welfare state here so I'm not sure what your point is?
A welfare state is for individuals who find themselves in difficulty - it's fair this to come from taxation if society can afford it. On the other hand I don't want my taxes underwriting dodgy employers who have unsafe practices, and I don't want my government protecting them in law from the consequences of their malfeasance. I'm not sure why people think not being able to sue dodgy employers is a good thing.
A welfare state is for individuals who find themselves in difficulty - it's fair this to come from taxation if society can afford it. On the other hand I don't want my taxes underwriting dodgy employers who have unsafe practices, and I don't want my government protecting them in law from the consequences of their malfeasance. I'm not sure why people think not being able to sue dodgy employers is a good thing.
#67
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Re: work related accident
Ok then, given that private home insurance here seems to be inadequate, the provincial government should just set up a new crown corporation that insures people properly. Sorry if that puts you out of a job.
#68
Joined: Sep 2008
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Re: work related accident
There isn't much of a welfare state here so I'm not sure what your point is?
A welfare state is for individuals who find themselves in difficulty - it's fair this to come from taxation if society can afford it. On the other hand I don't want my taxes underwriting dodgy employers who have unsafe practices, and I don't want my government protecting them in law from the consequences of their malfeasance. I'm not sure why people think not being able to sue dodgy employers is a good thing.
A welfare state is for individuals who find themselves in difficulty - it's fair this to come from taxation if society can afford it. On the other hand I don't want my taxes underwriting dodgy employers who have unsafe practices, and I don't want my government protecting them in law from the consequences of their malfeasance. I'm not sure why people think not being able to sue dodgy employers is a good thing.
Then there are the sue happy lawyers, pain and suffering, a nick on the finger, oh my aching back, have to be off for three weeks, the malingerers who sponge from the system that put premiums up. Who protects the system from these?
Legislation protects us from this to some degree so an employer cannot be sued. If an employer is at fault WCB will levy a fine and the employer does not even get their day in court. Again the dodgy employers often close up shop before this happens and consequently pay not penalty.
#69
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Re: work related accident
My response to this is I don't care. It's your business, you protect it.
#70
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Re: work related accident
Employers who promote unsafe working practices deserve what they get, but most of the time, the employers have done everything reasonable.
#71
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Re: work related accident
If it was only suing dodgy employers, that would different. But it's not. In most circumstances, the employee is mostly at fault- eg/ he/she was messing around, not looking where they were going, ignored/overrode (in most cases, deliberately) the safeguards to prevent injury etc.
Employers who promote unsafe working practices deserve what they get, but most of the time, the employers have done everything reasonable.
Employers who promote unsafe working practices deserve what they get, but most of the time, the employers have done everything reasonable.
#72
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Re: work related accident
Unfortunately they do, there is always someone looking to blame someone else rather than take responsibility and often a lawyer willing to help them.
The higher the costs to business, extra insurance etc. ends up being included in prices, so the buyer ends up paying in the end for spurious claims, even if they go nowhere.
The higher the costs to business, extra insurance etc. ends up being included in prices, so the buyer ends up paying in the end for spurious claims, even if they go nowhere.
#73
Joined: Aug 2005
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Re: work related accident
Unfortunately they do, there is always someone looking to blame someone else rather than take responsibility and often a lawyer willing to help them.
The higher the costs to business, extra insurance etc. ends up being included in prices, so the buyer ends up paying in the end for spurious claims, even if they go nowhere.
The higher the costs to business, extra insurance etc. ends up being included in prices, so the buyer ends up paying in the end for spurious claims, even if they go nowhere.