Windsor, Ontario?
#46
Re: Windsor, Ontario?
Presumably dbd visits HD and Lowes to buy stuff at US prices, its the areas you go through to get there that make the impression.
As I said up top, Detroit is a strange mix of abject poverty and great wealth as far as I can tell.
Windsor seems OK, but I do wonder about Richos point about the tax base in the long term.
Last edited by iaink; May 25th 2012 at 5:43 pm.
#47
Re: Windsor, Ontario?
I'm sure you can look after yourself without the use of any of my guns.
I didn't, of course, say that I thought Home Depot to be a crackhouse (though I did see two men, both with the pallid faces and cold sores one associates with meth, making out in a Home Depot toilet a fortnight ago. I suppose that might be the crack corner). You asked where I was going and I told you.
If you don't notice that Detroit is poor and in a grim state of decay then good for you. If you don't think it has a high crime rate then, again, good for you. Obviously this puts your opinion of Windsor into question but then Windsor's hardly a mecca, presumably anyone considering Windsor as a destination has a compelling reason for doing so, they're not going to be talked into, or out of, it.
I didn't, of course, say that I thought Home Depot to be a crackhouse (though I did see two men, both with the pallid faces and cold sores one associates with meth, making out in a Home Depot toilet a fortnight ago. I suppose that might be the crack corner). You asked where I was going and I told you.
If you don't notice that Detroit is poor and in a grim state of decay then good for you. If you don't think it has a high crime rate then, again, good for you. Obviously this puts your opinion of Windsor into question but then Windsor's hardly a mecca, presumably anyone considering Windsor as a destination has a compelling reason for doing so, they're not going to be talked into, or out of, it.
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High Unemployment is normally associated with high crime, an issue that may influence one’s choice when choosing a venue to go shopping...
#49
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"What are you doing?" he said.
"Going for a walk" I replied.
Blank look. "What do you mean?" The concept of walking being alien.
"Well I'm staying at that hotel" turns and points, "& fancied a walk"
"Buddy, it ain't safe to do that. Let me escort you back to your hotel"
I declined and carried on my merry way without being murdered. Still, the urban legend amongst fellow travellers at the time was that the n'er do wells of Detroit came to Dearborn by bus & went back in (stolen) cars so perhaps I was dumb and lucky. The other piece of received wisdom from fellow travellers was that the strip clubs in Windsor were better than those in Detroit because they took everything off, not just their tops. But, as a straight laced sort of chap, I didn't explore that option.
On another trip I went for a drive around scenic Detroit aiming for the mansions of the auto barons in Grosse Point. All very nice but go one block too far and you weren't in Kansas anymore. And that was in the 90's when the auto industry was doing well. I can well imagine the scenes of urban decay now.
Still, according to the Chrysler superbowl commercial a few years back Detroit was fighting back from the ropes....
#51
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Er, news is independent reportage backed by statistics. Anecdote, "it looks nice to me", is not usually considered equal. Still, it looks nice to you, it doesn't look nice to me. Even, innit.
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That's crap! Do you believe everything you read or hear? Again which part are you talking about? Downtown? I bet you don't even know as you have just recycled someone's opinion of the place... its not the burbs as you have said 'the affluence of the suburbs' You're a very funny man I'm assuming you are a man anyway...
Every city has its bad parts and D is no different. I bet I can find burnt out cars in your area, crack users the lot if I really wanted to...
Every city has its bad parts and D is no different. I bet I can find burnt out cars in your area, crack users the lot if I really wanted to...
#53
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As a local though, you just learn to avoid those areas, unless you have morbid curiosity like DBD, there's just no reason to go there. The interstates can take you anywhere you want, to the perfectly fine areas, without having to experience the urban blight.... I'm under no illusion that it doesn't exist and probably worse than most other cities, I just choose to avoid it....
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As a local though, you just learn to avoid those areas, unless you have morbid curiosity like DBD, there's just no reason to go there. The interstates can take you anywhere you want, to the perfectly fine areas, without having to experience the urban blight.... I'm under no illusion that it doesn't exist and probably worse than most other cities, I just choose to avoid it....
Anyway we are supposed to be talking about Windsor not Detroit.... I suppose DBD knows all about the crack ridden City of Windsor too and all the gun toting criminals we have here....
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Rose tinted glasses.... rose tinted enough that a white cane might be in order
#56
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Rose tinted glasses? Tell me what's not nice about Canton, St Clair Shores, Farmington Hills, Royal Oak or Rochester Hills please?? I doubt you or DBD has ever been to any of those areas but you just talk about the places like 7 mile and the boarded up buildings.
If you are going to say something then say the good and the bad not just the bad and invent stories about gun toting individuals that you have never seen in your time in the City. I asked him to tell me about the incident and he fobbed me off with a load of rubbish...
I know crime is high and all the rest that goes with it but as I go there more than any of you do I can tell you what I see and witness. Call it Rose tinted or whatever but your opinion on Detroit counts for squat as you do not do anything there and know nothing other than what your hear and read.
You may both be regulars but so what you know nothing about the city so comment on somewhere that you do know and don't question what I see on a regular basis. I may have been lucky but it's the truth.
#57
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I have to say that claiming Detroit does not have more crime and poverty than other US cities is as eccentric an opinion as Steve_'s view that Canada has good television. If you get mugged will it suddenly be dangerous for everyone?
#58
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I've described my entire experience of Windsor. It looks a lot like Sudbury but I don't suppose many posters have seen Sudbury so that's not really of any help.
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For what its worth I have also been to Detroit and Windsor, when I used to live in London ON, it was a convenient airport to drive too...