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Old Nov 19th 2008 | 1:40 pm
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Old Nov 20th 2008 | 12:15 am
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Originally Posted by fledermaus
It was minus 12 this morning and the windows in the bedrooms are covered in condensation. The main bedroom it worse. The other windows in the house have a very small amount of condensation.

I have looked on the internet and read all about it but am not really any more clued up, so I would appreciate any suggestions.

Here's the current set up.

We have 2yr old vinyl windows.

The main bedroom has a roller blind that is closed, and about 6in away from the window. North facing. The heating vent was closed.

The other bedroom has a venetian blind that wasn't closed. South facing. Heat was on in this room

The thermostat was set for 15 degrees. We heat the living/dining room with the log stove and have the ceiling fan on to push the air down and around.

The living room has huge floor length lined curtains. These were closed, only a tiny amount of condensation here. South facing.

I don't think we have a humidifier on the furnace.

So, what to do?? More heat?? more curtains??
We had exactly the same problem - the only thing that cleared it up was to have a dehumidifier running after we got up in the mornings. If you don't get the moisture out of the air it will get into the walls/bedding & clothes in wardrobes and then you'll get the problem of mould - which is a b*gger to get rid of once it's started.
 
Old Nov 20th 2008 | 12:27 am
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Thanks, we are thinking of getting that audit done, do you think it was worthwhile>>
Depends if you have the funds available to do the renovations in the alloted time to recoup the grants that come from having the audit done. The guy who did our place was very good.

If you cant get the work done anyway, then its probably not worth the $250 it will cost you.
 
Old Nov 20th 2008 | 1:41 am
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Depends if you have the funds available to do the renovations in the alloted time to recoup the grants that come from having the audit done. The guy who did our place was very good.

If you cant get the work done anyway, then its probably not worth the $250 it will cost you.
We need a new furnace and want to get gas put in instead of oil. I can smell the fumes from the oil, plus I need a gas stove to cook on.

The windows are 2 years old and should be fine, there don't seem to be any drafts....

Will get it done in the spring maybe.

In the meantime will sort out a dehumidifier.
 
Old Nov 20th 2008 | 2:01 am
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Originally Posted by fledermaus
We need a new furnace and want to get gas put in instead of oil. I can smell the fumes from the oil, plus I need a gas stove to cook on.

The windows are 2 years old and should be fine, there don't seem to be any drafts....

Will get it done in the spring maybe.

In the meantime will sort out a dehumidifier.
I really Dont see the point in a dehumidifier, most folks are getting humidifiers for the winter...

Its just cold...maybe get some of that window film from crappy tire and put a layer up to prevent the room air contacting the glass.
 
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Originally Posted by iaink
I really Dont see the point in a dehumidifier, most folks are getting humidifiers for the winter...

Its just cold...maybe get some of that window film from crappy tire and put a layer up to prevent the room air contacting the glass.
What he said ^^^ but as well get yourself a decent hygrometer and find out what the humidity levels are.
 
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What he said ^^^ but as well get yourself a decent hygrometer and find out what the humidity levels are.
we have a hygrometer on a barometer. Its 65% in most rooms.
 
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Originally Posted by fledermaus
we have a hygrometer on a barometer. Its 65% in most rooms.
Wow that is high it shouldn't really be over 40%-45% even 30%-35% would be better seeing as you don't have hardwood floors.
 
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we have a hygrometer on a barometer. Its 65% in most rooms.
65! That seems high. Where is it coming from? Ours usually hovers around 40-50% Its reading 43 at the moment. We dont have the humidifier on yet. In the winter proper it can get down to 20 or less if left to itself. Even in the kitchen with pots boiling etc the max its reached is 74%

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Originally Posted by iaink
65! That seems high. Where is it coming from? Ours usually hovers around 40-50% Its reading 43 at the moment. We dont have the humidifier on yet. In the winter proper it can get down to 20 or less if left to itself. Even in the kitchen with bots boiling etc the max its reached is 74%
I think it might be coming from the outside air. I just checked the conditions at the Peterborough Airport and the relative humidity is 77% right now and was as high as 88% overnight.

http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/trend..._metric_e.html
I don't know what you can do about that.
 
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I think it might be coming from the outside air. I just checked the conditions at the Peterborough Airport and the relative humidity is 77% right now and was as high as 88% overnight.

http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/trend..._metric_e.html
I don't know what you can do about that.
But its much warmer inside, so the actual humidity (rather than the relative humidity) carried inside would have a pretty insignificant effect on room temp RH I suspect...

Air at 20 degrees can hold 5 times as much moisture as air at 0 degrees



If you dont have to open those windows the first inexpensive thing to do is to put that hairdryer film up to keep the moist air away from the cold window. Then the second thing is to figure out for sure if you do have a humidifier running in the furnace.

In the apartment we lived in we had no control over the humidity and we had a lot of ice build up on the windows. (didnt think to try the film back then) We also (eventually) had a mould spot in the corner of the bedroom

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Old Nov 20th 2008 | 2:52 am
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Reading through the other posts since mine..... we tried everything that you have all mentioned - but the only way we have found over the years is to run the dehumidifier - we had no other option. We live in a modern well insulated house, oil fired burner, lots of full length glass windows. Simple science I guess - cold outside + warm bodies + lots of glass = condensation.

Guess Hubby and I must generate lots of heat and humidity
 
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Originally Posted by iaink
But its much warmer inside, so the actual humidity (rather than the relative humidity) carried inside would have a pretty insignificant effect on room temp RH I suspect...
True.

I should have looked somewhere else for a comparison like Calgary...well duh.

Currently 89% humidity and as high as 98% overnight and we have no condensation problems.
 

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