Surely a determination to go to Canada contradicts this. I moved to Canada because, in my trade at the time there was lots of money to be had and visas were easy to come by. Had either of this conditions not been true I would have gone somewhere else. Even now, although I live in Canada, I work most of the time in the US; because that's where the money is (revenue 60% US, 5% Canada, 35% rest of world). In a global economy it's not being flexible to limit one's self to one country.

It really makes me sick reading a thread with title "why are things so difficult for us British here in canada?" on this forum. Sometimes it can look like it's really difficult, but let's have a look at immigrants from Asia, Africa or Latin America.
They have to learn English, unlike us British.
They don't have a chance to fly home 3 times a year, because simply Zoom or Canadian Affair do not fly to their country 3 times every week.
They can't claim their 7 years od driving experience to get discount on the auto insurance as new immigrants.
They are saving 10 years to get $10k to qualify for the Canadian immigration, just because average salary back home is 300 pounds a months.
Sometimes we have to see the "big picture" to realize how lucky we really are. Babyblue, if Canada is treating You bad, pack Your stuff and fly home, instead od pointless whining.

babyblue is getting screwed because she's a domestic servant. I think it unlikely that the cost of insuring a car or the price of trips to the UK are much of an issue in her case; you don't have to be from the third world to be poor. Sometimes the best thing to do is to put up with it while you must and to wait for revenge.

It's a bit smug to assume the option to fly home, btw, it was five years before we had enough for the airfare; we had to stay.

No, she is a special needs carer. Her employer thinks she is a domestic servant

Fair enough.

As someone who has joint custody of a special needs "child", I think you'd need some nerve to sign up as a live-in carer, especially in another country. The limit's of one's duties are likely to be vague and being exploited a real risk.

What nonsense.
I have trawled around banks etc. even offering to work FREE etc.
if they'd give me the oportunity to demonstrate my skills and
credentials. How is that being superior etc?
The reason Brits have a hard time is the same reason everyone here has a hard time....
Canada has perpetuated a myth worldwide that it is some kind of nirvana,
a wonderful nation of oportunity, friendly people, beautiful countryside and maple syrup.
This has attracted swarms of highly skilled workers from around the world
who come here and discover it's all complete crap.
There are no jobs and the few that exist are being chased by thousands of other immigrants with PhD's, MA's, MBA's and God knows what else.

Britain on the other hand has a much larger economy, more jobs and fewer qualified people chasing them. Hence it's far easier for you and I to get a look in.

Do you know much about Britain's so called economic miracle?

If I were you, I would spend less time posting spurious claims and do some research into the economy into which you are supposedly joining next April.

Here's a prognosis from a leading economist:

"The major "growth" areas have been the Public Sector payroll, Government white elephant IT contracts funded from taxes and so-called financial "services" busy getting the rest of the population into debt to fund the retail consumption of imports. Meanwhile real wealth creation is being transferred relentlessly to the East.

There is record private sector debt, rocketing Public Sector debt and an even larger public and private sector pensions liability. Total liabilities are in excess of GBP 3 trillion. Taxation is already way too high and wealth creation will now contract. Private sector jobs will reduce, tax revenue will fall short, Public Sector debt will continue to rise and eventually there will have to be a massive Public Sector shakeout with pensions, in all probability, not being fully honoured.

In the short term the Pound will come under pressure.

The BoE will not be able to lower interest rates to any significant extent. Unlike America, with the Dollar as a reserve currency and a low tax economy, or Japan (or even Europe to a certain extent) with retained productive expertise and capacity, Britain is structurally very weak, reliant on huge borrowing to enjoy the labours of others. The lowering of interest rates is a financial engineering device which, in itself, does not address the fundamental problem. Britain isn't doing anything very useful anymore, its debt will be worth little to emerging economies in future and therefore it will have to accept a much lower standard of living.

The historic adjustment is always via the mechanism of recession. Except in the scale, which will be very large, it will be no different this time. Wealth will be reduced by a combination of asset value depreciation and monetary inflation. Britain will have to restore itself on the long road somehow by creating real wealth again.

The prognosis for house prices is at least a 50% fall in real terms from the peak by the next decade."

Do you understand that the UK has to buy oil in USD? and therefore in order to keep GBP parity with USD interest rates in the UK will have to rise. At the last meeting of the BoE it was 5-4 in favour of the 0.25% cut. The Fed is likely to put it's rate up in September and the BoE will either have to pre-empt it in September or follow it in October.

Higher interest rates in the UK will put the final nail in the coffin of the housing market and really start to squeeze that 1.1 trillion GBP of personal debt. The rising housing market and borrowed money is the only thing that has been fuelling the economy. What little manufacturing there is in recession and unemployment is rising.

It's all a huge case of The Emporer's New Clothes.

Of course, you could always choose to move to an economy whose projected annual income from oil and gas of $7.7 billion CAD is likely to actually come in at around $12 billion CAD and that is looking at abolishing corporate tax to attract companies and jobs.

And Canada has a new-ish culture of entrepreneuralism, people setting up small business, working from home, developing business opportunities, and servicing the needs of others.

Have you not thought of that ? Some don't need much startup capital. There's plenty of channels out there. Think about it.

But of course, you'd want a paycheck from day #1.

Huh ?

Rich.

Maybe Britain's economy is more of a myth since it's based on some flaky foundations.

One way of drawing a conclusion is to visit as many economist sites as possible.

Each country has their own as you would expect. They often compare to other countries stats in order to ascertain that 'we are doing OK, or a bit better, or just plain wonderful', then go to independent sites, pull it all together and try and pick some consistancies out of each one. Make mental notes and then you will see the direction each country is going in. Just like exchange rates economies go up and down.

I am ready to be corrected any time of the day as I do try and learn, but only when the proposition is put intelligently and with some element of truth.

It seems to me that a certain person knows better than the BOE govenor, who did not want to drop rates, neither did his immediate aids. Its seems it was the 'I am shitting myself juniors' who ran for the easy option.

and if the BOE thinks the economy is going tits up (translated as some very tough times ahead), the heads of the EU thinks the UK economy is at a crossroads and there is only one way forward - down, perhaps their experience/knowledge will count for a little more than the average person.

FWIW

Canada turns over nearly 1,000 billion US per year for 32 million people. The UK turns over (GDP) 1,700 billion US per year for 58 million people. Thats why the GDP per capita is higher in Canada and will continue up according to everywhere I read. Canada has had a decade or so during the late 70's and 80's of very tight financial circumstances with a huge National Debt that was a huge burden which is now lowering over time and with monthly surpluses. But like Germany who is about to come out of its tight period Canada has retained more manufacturing and mineral based indusrty than the UK. Hence why long term the prospects are more favourable. During the last 7 years the one major growth private sector in the UK has been banking and asscociated sectors...insurance, mortgages, dodgy loan sharks...but when the funny money supply stops coming into the market from Government borrowing which it has started to do even this sector will lay off workers. The UK public sector civil servant list that has grown by 2 million since 1997 only eats money - it does not create it.

If the economy is so good why has it been recognised that the under 35's are IPOds - Insecure, pressurised, overtaxed, debt Ridden.

Recent data analysis has it that the first time buyer needs to be earning on average £44,000 to reach the property ladder wthout taking on a dodgy mortgage of stupid lend criterias. Thats at least £15,000 more than the average FAMILY income in the UK.

No the population of the UK will not starve, will not die, but it will get much harder and the impetus to achieve a higher status is rapidly being erroded by mis-managment and pure greed.

The gap between the poor and rich is wider now than during the Victorian era.

It all needs careful thought before you jump out of or into the fire.

Note GDP are costed in US $ as thats the only currency used on the global market and the only currency to bench figures against. No

Unemployment.

I presume out of the 6.8% of unemployed work age residents they are all immigrants of a recent period. I say recent as we all know Canada is made up of immigrants to a large part of imported origin.

Lets say the last 10 years for instance.

Thats seems to be an average of 250,000 per year from what I read. So 2.5 million have entered the workplace. Immigrants of the last decade will be of working age otherwise entry generally is refused. (Accepting family related immigration.)
With a working population of about 16 million currently the 2.5 million new immigrants over the last decade will account for 16% of the total. So given that unemployment is at 6.8% and if they are all immigrants, (ie no long standing Canadians who account for this unemployed peoples), of the last decade at least 9.2% or 1.47 million people have found work who entered the country since 1995.

So it seems many immigrants do indeed find gainful employment of one sort or another. It may not be to ones liking but then I don't like some of the clients I work for - but hey... its paid well in the end as at least we have fed our children.

In the end everywhere has its own set of problems and each person deals with them in a unique way. People deal with their own personal problems in a unique manner. But....It solves nothing to tar everyone else and everywhere else with a reflection ones own success or failure.

and on a personal note many sympathies with the originator of the thread - what else should one say accept hope it gets better.

Thank you so much for the understanding.
This past two years have been very dificult for me. I am generally a very possitive women and i am focusing on the fututre. I have begun searching for future employment and i intend to work hard and acheive my goals.
these peoplw will regret this when i leave as i am killing them with kindness.

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Hi ther grah!
my son is in a rep team and loving it. He is so passionate about his soccer. He has been very frustrated with his team this year as they are not pulling it together well.

Thanks for the words of encouragement. It has been extremly hard but the future is much brighter. I can see it more now.

thanks again!

I had my own special needs child that i cared for 24/7 until she passed away three years ago. I came to canada and met this family that sat there and cried at my story as the needs were so similar to their own child. I spent a week of my vacation with this family and then i returned to the UK to start the application. They seemed genuine at the time.I also went through and agency who were highly recomended!
I sold everything i owned in the UK and came here with two suitcases. I had nowhere to return to so i had to stick it out.
i AM NEITHER A FOOL NOR STUPID.
I am a highly intellegent women with excellent qualifications. Just fooled and blinded by the false light.

On my wage i could never afford to go back to the UK. I was not in anyway insulting any other nationality!
THIS IS THE BRITISH EXPATS WEBSITE RIGHT?
So surly i am able to voice my oppinion about us british!
I am here because there are genuine people that care!
most people here know me and my history!
don't you dare insult my intelligence.
I suggest you should pack your bags and move off this site.
the site is set up to support and help!
I never been racist in my life and i have no problems with others getting help but i do get annoyed when this is so avaliable to all!
It is the same in Britain!