dbd33

Well really, one such strive for coherence in one's xenophobic rants.

Rich n Emma

That's why its better to leave the UK, its only going to get worse and i don't know how many more people the UK can hold. Also can anyone tell me if Canada has an equivelant of our housing association as they're another one of my major gripes. You can buy a lovely new house and find that your neighbours are housing association and don't give a damn about their house and therefore abuse it and their gardens. Now again this is just a minority but is quite common in the areas where i live.

dbd33

Yes Canada has those.

Selsame

I think you will find they are quite common throughout the UK. We are in just such a situation as you describe. We bought a nice house, yet a year after moving in the place next door was bought as a "buy to let" and now we have riff raff for neighbours. Oh and our reasons for leaving the UK apart from this sort of thing. Well most people have covered the main reasons; crime, lack of respect, rudeness, failing education system. However I have a slightly different take on the "uncontrolled immigration" view. I am employed as a UK immigration officer I can tell you the real situation is a lot worse than the Daily Mail would have you believe which may explain why so many Immigration officers, police officers etc are planning to emigrate.....

Rich n Emma

When it comes to buying a house then, (quite a few years down the line) i'll have to make sure that i know the area well. Can't be doing with all the hastle it comes with.

Danny B

They do not need vetting, nor do they need to speak English as they are EU Citizens and have the legal right to live & work in the UK.

Don't forget how WWII was started ie- a hatred for Polish Jews..

startwin

You're absolutely right there, about it deteriorating so much the past few years. I go back once or twice a year, and I have felt really uneasy just walking a couple of blocks on my own in a previously "nice" area in my hometown. Here, I do a 7 km walk every day on my own, and never feel threatened or uneasy and last time I was back in the UK I decided against doing my walks on my own. And in the grocery stores, there seems to be so much resentment (for want of a better word), that I am in there at all. I seem to be in the minority, which is fine, but not with that undercurrent of hostility. I'm going back again in March, and really not looking forward to it. I hear enough from my son and family who live there.

On the flip side, there is still enough of the old England to really draw me and make me feel homesick from time to time. Out in the countryside, villages and country pubs. I just love Sunday lunch at a country pub. Villages in the Cotswolds. But, no way I could ever afford to live there, and you can't completely avoid the cities.

dingbat

I look forward to you moving to Canada and experiencing our version of "riff raff". You may find that with attitudes such as those displayed in your post, you will fit in quite well. With the "riff raff", that is.

rae

having left for the pull of canada, not the push of the UK, my eyes were opened when i got here. the following may address some of the reasons cited for wishing to leave the UK, they are here too.

there is graffiti and i live in a nice so called posh bit.
there is dog crap, just trekked past a load on my morning walk through local park.
there are abusive kids.
the school/education system has so far been a bit of a disappointment.
there is crime, within 3 miles of us a major coke op was recently busted, the killer of a mountie has links with crime where i live and only last week there was an armed robbery at a liquor store.
racial intolerance is rife, with little or no diversity or training.
groceries are appallingly expensive, spent $197 yesterday and there is not much to show for it, no booze whatsoever.

having said all this, and despite some wobbles, i still want to live here. the positives however are not so far reaching as one may think.

Biiiiink

I must be the only one thinking the UK's improved in the last few years. The new Polish delis in Edinburgh are to die for...yum

Why we left? Mr B fed up of working in the NHS, he can make a lot more money here, with shorter hours, and we can have more stuff and more holidays. There was nothing much Canada-specific in our move (edit: I had citizenship), I'd have liked the US or Germany, he'd have like Australia or NZ. But it's all worked out just fine

Jay Bird

Violence in schools and on the streets is part also of life in Canada.....don't think you're leaving it behind...these are from today's Toronto (Sunday) Star

http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/293129

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/293567

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/293405

dingbat

You really have no idea, do you? There is no screening of the largest single class of immigrant into Canada. To paraphrase HWP, who wrote on another issue, reading these posts is increasingly akin to waiting for people to sit in wet paint.

dingbat

I do too. Been back a few times in the last two years - loved it.

JonboyE

One rather important aspect of Canadian culture is the tolerance and respect of other peoples and their culture and lifestyles.

I don't want to get into the keyboard wars that are going on in this thread. However, I do have to ask if you are so sure that Enoch Powell was right is Canada really a place where you will be happy? I mean, really?

rae

i'm sure you are correct generally speaking for the country as a whole, i do not have the experience to comment. in my short personal experience however, this is not the case. the use of highly inappropriate language, racial jokes and slurs have been most prevalent. i have also seen racial bias and stereotyping.
now this may not seem a big deal to some, and may also seem that i am advocating the political correctness we have in the uk, i am not. the impression i have formed personally is at odds with your post, that is all.