Voyager970

And not forgetting full access to all Sky TV channels, yip the full package, pay per view as well and all the footy channels, and also video and dvd channel as well as ***** about what the scumbags get !!

Dont get me started as the soap box is about to come out !!!!!

Eddie

PS I'll join you in your flame proof suit ready for roasting

iaink

Its an unpopular thing to defend (as Ive found out before), but dont forget most paedophles were the victims of abuse themselves, which I imagine is enough to seriously screw up your thinking.

Extremely draconian punishment only makes it unlikely they will seek out therapy, and if only one paedophile can be "rescued" from harming more kids, then thats god knows how many more future victims saved by breaking the cycle of abuse.

Flame away, I dont care. Its an emotive subject and facts dont count for much I realise. By all means throw away the key for those beyond help, but dont give up on all of them.

or4ngecrush

I must admit it does happen everywhere and it probably wasn't the best title for the post. I also do agree that it isn't a reason to leave a country but obviously it wasn't my only reason, my reasons are vast and long. I will always be proud of where I came from, where ever I may end up.

cove61

few years back i made the mistake of going into town when rangers were coming to play aberdeen, i had with my my two kids one was 2 the other 3, we got off the bus just as a group headed up the street on the way to the game, my youngerst had on a red tshirt under her coat (not a football one) just red this well shall i call him a man i dont think he was perhaps animal is the better word, started shouting and swearing and spat on a 2 year old (because he thought she had an aberdeen tshirt on) the police looked on and only when another guy got off the bus and made a comment did they do anything. My dad is english but lived in scotland for over 30 years, he has had no probs, i dont suport england in the world cup but think what happened to that wee lad and guy in aberdeen is sick, but sadly it is just another sign of things sliding in to the gutter here in the uk

Voyager970

Just more mindless f**k wits wearing a blue shirt and bringing the game and the club into disrepute

Makes me as hell, picking on defenseless children

I bet if it was a guy his own age he wouldn't have done this

Eddie

PS yes I am a Rangers supporter so accept my apologies

Craftybanshee

I'd rather not be roasted at all! :scared: I like to cover all angles, just in case I know what I'm like once I get fired up

dingbat

Sex offenders are over here in huge numbers, in higher numbers in fact than my direct counterparts in the UK report in my area. I am not sure why exactly that is, but the definitions of sexual offences are different of course. On a slightly different note, I hate to be pedantic, but there is a DMS IV definition of paedophile. It is a diagnositic term that is used too often to describe an offence or an offender that or whom is not actually paedophilia or a paedophile. To my mind, using the term when the offender is not actually a paedophile, lessens the impact of the offence committed and therefore the treatment of those who are actually the real sicko's.

Craftybanshee

I know it's usually a vicious cycle within the family, I agree with you.

There's talk going on here via the Government about letting peeps know when there's paedophiles living in their neighbourhoods, like in the USA.

I'd want to know about any paedophile in my neighbourhood, not so I could 'burn 'em out' but so I could keep an eye on them. I think if it does happen a lot of peeps here will take the law into their own hands and many paedophiles will then go underground/into hiding, therefore defeating the object of knowing where they are. At least if you know you've got them living in your neighbourhood then you can keep each other, as parents informed. I'd rather they were kept in jail though. They should'nt live in society. I can't see how they can ever be cured, short of surgically removing their nether regions. Ugh, the whole paedaphile thing makes me shudder! **vomit smilie needed**

Calgal

Quite Eddie - and what about the "Human rights" of the victims??? Don't seem to matter do they?

iaink

I think its safe to say there are probably paedophiles...either active or passive...in every neighbourhood. Same way people with other psychological problems can be treated I expect, the problem is how do you know who is "safe" (ie not going to physically do anything) and who should be locked up. If locking people up or executing them was a cure for societies problems, the streets of the USA would be the safest on the planet.

Voyager970

Unfortunatley the days of locking them up and throwing the key away are well gone.

I agree with you that if they are exposed in the neighbourhoods then they will be forced underground, then you really wont know where the ***** they are and what they are up to, or about to get up to !!!

We are about to start Home Detention Curfew up here in Scotland ( July )

Basically anyone who is a low category prisoner, sentenced to more than 3 months, but less than four years in prison, will be released early and electronically tagged !!!

MMM what about the tagged prisoner who still managed to murder someoone whilst wearing his tag !!!!!!!!!!

Eddie

Calgal

Agreed. The sad fact is that they also deserve sympathy as a victim. But what to do with them once they have become the perpetrator? Experts claim they are incurable, so letting them loose in society is not a viable option. Tough one!

RobinHood

Greater Toronto has a population of 4 million plus - but that was still a shocking incident at Xmas and made the National News.

So - here's a welcome to Xmas at my hometown (population 60,000), on the same day:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4562390.stm

Bet no-one outside West Yorkshire heard much about it.

This incident made the national news though:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/4215276.stm

This country eh?

dingbat

True paedophiles are incurable in my opinion, but there is a whole school of thought that says that even they are able to be treated through relapse prevention and in some cases, chemical intervention. My biggest issue is the women who seek out these men for relationships. They almost always have kids of their own. I maintain they should be treated alongside the offender.

iaink

Im sure we could all exchange small town news stories, but bad shit happens everywhere. Its not a reason on its own to up sticks and move 3000 miles.

Same shit, shinier bucket.