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iaink Aug 10th 2007 6:18 am

Re: When to tip?
 

Originally Posted by a1anm (Post 5173598)
Totally serious. Whenever you are being helped by someone who doesn't work in a job which expects tips you know they are genuine when they go out of their way to help you. In restaurants, especially in North America you know the reason they are doing it is to get a bigger tip.

Does the reason really matter? The fact they are helpful is surely the point.

If tipping was not the norm, would the servers be as invested in getting you the right food at the right temperature in the right timeframe?

Customer service over here seems to be rather better than I remember it in the UK. Perhaps the expectation that service level will affect tip level is the reason.

Souvenir Aug 10th 2007 6:29 am

Re: When to tip?
 

Originally Posted by a1anm (Post 5173598)
Totally serious. Whenever you are being helped by someone who doesn't work in a job which expects tips you know they are genuine when they go out of their way to help you. In restaurants, especially in North America you know the reason they are doing it is to get a bigger tip.

You've made the distinction there by yourself. Some nice hard-working people don't depend on tips for their income. Some people are nice and hard-working because they do depend on tips for most of their income.

a1anm Aug 10th 2007 6:34 am

Re: When to tip?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 5173608)
Does the reason really matter? The fact they are helpful is surely the point.

If tipping was not the norm, would the servers be as invested in getting you the right food at the right temperature in the right timeframe?

Customer service over here seems to be rather better than I remember it in the UK. Perhaps the expectation that service level will affect tip level is the reason.

Maybe the reason wouldn't matter to some but i prefer it when people aren't false with me.

It's a good point about service in Canada being better than in the UK and i couldn't agree more. so i guess tipping does increase overall customer service. i still find it hard to see why there is such an emphasis put on it in certian industries and none in others. Why is it the done thing to tip a taxi driver but not the bus driver, air stewardess or cashier in a retail shop.

stepnek Aug 10th 2007 6:43 am

Re: When to tip?
 

Originally Posted by a1anm (Post 5173649)
i still find it hard to see why there is such an emphasis put on it in certian industries and none in others. Why is it the done thing to tip a taxi driver but not the bus driver, air stewardess or cashier in a retail shop.

Exactly. It's all very strange and illogical.

iaink Aug 10th 2007 6:43 am

Re: When to tip?
 

Originally Posted by a1anm (Post 5173649)
Maybe the reason wouldn't matter to some but i prefer it when people aren't false with me.

It's a good point about service in Canada being better than in the UK and i couldn't agree more. so i guess tipping does increase overall customer service. i still find it hard to see why there is such an emphasis put on it in certian industries and none in others. Why is it the done thing to tip a taxi driver but not the bus driver, air stewardess or cashier in a retail shop.

Dunno, just is.

Im having deja vu about a similar thread a long time ago with mickj / s1lvershad0w/ whatever he was posting under back then:blink:

steve666 Aug 10th 2007 6:59 am

Re: When to tip?
 

Originally Posted by a1anm (Post 5173598)
Totally serious. Whenever you are being helped by someone who doesn't work in a job which expects tips you know they are genuine when they go out of their way to help you. In restaurants, especially in North America you know the reason they are doing it is to get a bigger tip.

Are you Irish per chance?

a1anm Aug 10th 2007 7:06 am

Re: When to tip?
 

Originally Posted by steve666 (Post 5173750)
Are you Irish per chance?

i'm from northern ireland so kind of irish.

startwin Aug 10th 2007 1:28 pm

Re: When to tip?
 

Originally Posted by Daedra (Post 5173270)
I'd want my money back from some of them then! :lol:

When my son worked as a pizza delivery driver he bought his car and maintained and ran it strictly with tips. Never touched his wages. My daughter worked at MacDonalds, amongst others, and they never got tips.

JimandNic Aug 10th 2007 1:40 pm

Re: When to tip?
 
This was on MSN today - great timing!

http://finance.sympatico.msn.ca/savi...mentid=5265655

PMM Aug 10th 2007 5:04 pm

Re: When to tip?
 
Hi


Originally Posted by JimandNic (Post 5174833)
This was on MSN today - great timing!

http://finance.sympatico.msn.ca/savi...mentid=5265655

Just had to add my 15%-18% worth. I tip on the basis of the food cost, I don't tip on the !3%+ tax charged for GST/PST more on booze. Also I don't tip the full wack on the wine, the restaurant has already marked it up at least 100%, so I'm not going to tip $8.00 for a $40.00 of wine.

boxerdog03 Aug 10th 2007 8:36 pm

Re: When to tip?
 

Originally Posted by PMM (Post 5175117)
Hi



Just had to add my 15%-18% worth. I tip on the basis of the food cost, I don't tip on the !3%+ tax charged for GST/PST more on booze. Also I don't tip the full wack on the wine, the restaurant has already marked it up at least 100%, so I'm not going to tip $8.00 for a $40.00 of wine.

I wouldn't tip someone to open a bottle of wine, it's not like it's hard work. I think that is just taking the p**s

dbd33 Aug 12th 2007 11:59 pm

Re: When to tip?
 

Originally Posted by boxerdog03 (Post 5175577)
I wouldn't tip someone to open a bottle of wine, it's not like it's hard work. I think that is just taking the p**s

I do tip 15% on the wine. It's the done thing. What the sommelier can do for that money is to navigate the wine list and suggest an appropriate wine at a price the customer is willing to pay. He or she might even bring samples to the table. Regardless, the tip is part of the price of eating out and if you're not willing to pay it, you shouldn't order the wine.

Grah Aug 13th 2007 7:59 am

Re: When to tip?
 
Never tip when its included in the bill. Also find going out to different places and not being a regular a great way to avoid the expectation of paying someone for doing their job.

Wish I could make multiples of my salary for helping customers solve problems.


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