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Old Nov 15th 2007 | 1:52 am
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Might get the waiting list down a bit if they make a habit of this!
 
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Yeah, they do that to all newcomers

Just like they shoot all the Brazilians in London
 
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I can understand tazing a violent man (obviously not him) to get him down, but why did they feel the need to taze him again when he was face down with a 200lb mounty on his neck?

It was a complete misuse of force by the RCMP... what's wrong with a good old fashioned scuffle to the ground and get him handcuffed? They knew he wasn't armed as he had just got off a long haul flight.

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Yeah, they do that to all newcomers

Just like they shoot all the Brazilians in London
 
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From the article:

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They knew he wasn't armed as he had just got off a long haul flight.
He was armed, he had a stapler
 
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It is a little extream really. Usually they just make you bend over and whack you with a paddle.
 
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Tell 'em - http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ukfs...00/3955259.stm
 
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I do not believe he was a Immigrant, but a Visitor, his Mother failed to meet him, he was exhibiting extreme behaviour, but it does appear that the RCMP stepped over the line and that a huge law suit will result.

I believe you will find that the death was not the result of the Taser but the pressure applied to his Trachea.?
 
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Wouldnt be the first Tazer related death if it was.

None of us judging from the outside really know all the circumstances and facts surrounding it. The officers on the ground have to make a quick decision and if I were an experienced officer I think I would always err on the side of too much force rather than too little when faced with an unknown quantity. Its too easy to get hurt otherwise.

Its sad, but then there has always been and always will be a risk of death in these situations. There is nothing new about deaths in custody or during arrests.

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Originally Posted by Howard1944
I do not believe he was a Immigrant, but a Visitor, his Mother failed to meet him, he was exhibiting extreme behaviour, but it does appear that the RCMP stepped over the line and that a huge law suit will result.

I believe you will find that the death was not the result of the Taser but the pressure applied to his Trachea.?
Sorry Howard, wrong on two counts. He was immigrating to join his mother, who had already been living in Canada for some time. As she said in interview, she "spent nine hours at the airport on Sunday waiting for her son to arrive and begin his new life in Canada as an immigrant but no one could tell her what had happened to him."

And the postmortem examination, while it failed to establish a cause of death, found there was "no trauma.... or any other obvious cause of death" - I think that rules out asphyxiation due to pressure on the trachea, don't you?

CBC report here might set you straight...
 
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This epiisode leaves me with a feeling of revulsion, shame and disgust. There is enough controversy surrounding the RCMP in this province already, this has just added to the suspicion and distrust of our police.

Vancouver is to "welcome the world" in 2010, yet they can't handle someone who is confused, exhausted, and cannot speak the language. At Vancouver airport English is not the only - or even the main - language spoken. I come through there several times a year, many of the employees do not understand either of our official languages, but I would hope they could understand when someone evidently requires assistance. Translation services should be available in any language.

It's not just the RCMP, but the immigration, airport security and airport employees who should all be ashamed. Right now they are all too busy trying to justify their actions, or lack thereof.
 
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Interesting, this individual is allowed in as an Immigrant, exhibits fits of rage that include destroying a computer, throwing furniture around, bizzare, explosive behaviour, and he has just landed??

Not condoning the incident, but if I arrive at a strange airport, lack language skills, I would rationally try to seek help, not get myself arrested and possibly deported when I have just arrived.
 
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Originally Posted by Howard1944

Not condoning the incident, but if I arrive at a strange airport, lack language skills, I would rationally try to seek help, not get myself arrested and possibly deported when I have just arrived.
But you have absolutely no idea as to this mans emotional state. He was obviously not acting rationally but we have no idea as to why, none whatsoever.

It is not up to you/us to judge his actions.
 


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