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Old May 17th 2017, 11:05 am
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Hello All,

I hope you are very well and having a lovey day.

I am posting in this forum as I feel in a loop and I am not sure what to do next.

My wife and I are planning to move to Canada. I am an Organisational Development Consultant (Human Resources) and she is working part-time and studying with the Open University (one year to go).

We have an active express entry candidate profile with 409 points, which seems not enough to be selected at the moment. I have also registered and currently working towards a CHRP (the Human Resources professional programme in Canada) - again one year to go and hopefully we'll be gaining more points when completed.

I have applied for over 70 jobs in the last few months, sent follow up emails, called up hiring managers and nothing. The answer is always the same. I am not sure what I can do differently / more / less of. How can I get a work permit if no company is prepared to help me with that?

I am wondering if I am missing something. Any ideas / suggestions are very much appreciated. We are very flexible and would be prepared to live anywhere.

Thanks a lot in advance,

Giulia
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Old May 17th 2017, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by gaceg
Hello All,

I hope you are very well and having a lovey day.

I am posting in this forum as I feel in a loop and I am not sure what to do next.

My wife and I are planning to move to Canada. I am an Organisational Development Consultant (Human Resources) and she is working part-time and studying with the Open University (one year to go).

We have an active express entry candidate profile with 409 points, which seems not enough to be selected at the moment. I have also registered and currently working towards a CHRP (the Human Resources professional programme in Canada) - again one year to go and hopefully we'll be gaining more points when completed.

I have applied for over 70 jobs in the last few months, sent follow up emails, called up hiring managers and nothing. The answer is always the same. I am not sure what I can do differently / more / less of. How can I get a work permit if no company is prepared to help me with that?

I am wondering if I am missing something. Any ideas / suggestions are very much appreciated. We are very flexible and would be prepared to live anywhere.

Thanks a lot in advance,

Giulia
The biggest problem is that most Canadian companies will file job applications like yours in the round bin next to the desk, they will, rarely, get any further, and that you are not there to talk face to face you will have great difficulties.
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At 409, you're not too far off the required points, so might get lucky later this year if they drop a bit more.

But how have you applied for these 70 jobs, just online? If so, that might be where you're going wrong, and something to try would be to get out to Canada and network like hell. Have you read the Job Hunting section of the Wiki as advised in your last thread? Loads of useful articles and info in that.

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Thank you very much for your replies.
Yes, I have applied online for all these jobs. For most of them I tried to get a contact and either e-mail them or call them to follow up and show interest.
Networking is a very good idea. Will need to organise a trip to Canada soon
Thanks for these information.
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Originally Posted by gaceg
Thank you very much for your replies.
Yes, I have applied online for all these jobs. For most of them I tried to get a contact and either e-mail them or call them to follow up and show interest.
Networking is a very good idea. Will need to organise a trip to Canada soon
Thanks for these information.
yes, visit where you want to live. In the run up to that trip google the companies there that you are interested in and contact them. See if someone in your line of work will meet with you for a coffee and a discussion. Stress you are building your network. Also, contact recruiters and meet them too. With every contact you make see if you can add them to linked in. Networking is very important here, as is showing interest in an organization.
If it helps, put yourself in a hiring managers shoes, you get a number of resumes for a role and one is from abroad. How seriously would you take that resume?
Also, assume they know nothing about the emigration process, so know all you can so that you can explain it to them.
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Latest draw today is 415 points, so only 6 points off where you are. Any way of you getting points up a tiny bit more to give yourself a better shot i.e. your spouse taking IELTS etc? Or have you already got the absolute max possible? If so, when will your points drop due to age, or is that not applicable? Hopefully you'll get an ITA before they do.

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Is your resume in the Canadian format?
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Do neither of you speak French? Have you taken the TEF?

How about one of the Provincial Nomination Programs? You can apply to various provinces, and if they like the look of you they accept you as a nominee and you get 600 extra express entry points. I am simplifying, but that's it in a nutshell. Some provinces have target occupation lists, so you can only apply to them if your occupation is in the list, but others have open applications.

I haven't checked this specifics since last year, but as of 2016...

Nova Scotia - has target occupation list

Saskatchewan - has target occupation list but its a big and varied range

New Brunswick - was targeting IT folk and French speakers

PEI - anyone could apply, no target occupations

Northwest Territories - you needed to have worked there for 8-12 weeks

Manitoba - had to have a "connection" to Manitoba, is family there. Limited number of free for all spots to apply for the chance to do an "exploratory visit" which would then count as your connection to Manitoba. Cannot have friends or family anywhere else in Canada as this would disqualify you.

Ontario - need to score over 400 express entry points and they pull out people to invite. It used to be everyone with over 400, but they fill up their spaces quickly and there was a $1500 PNP fee which you would have to pay. They also have a French speaking stream.

Yukon - need a LMIA approved job offer

BC - need an LMIA approved job offer

Alberta - were targeting engineering folks already in Alberta on TWPs. Otherwise needed an LMIA approved job offer and needed to be working in Alberta.

Quebec - have their own immigration scheme outside express entry.

Nunavut - no PNP scheme
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Grr, sorry that should have said do either of you, not neither.
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Originally Posted by raindropsandroses
Grr, sorry that should have said do either of you, not neither.
You can eddit your posts Raindrops- you have about 2 hours to do so- see little edit box at the bottom i think
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Originally Posted by scilly
Is your resume in the Canadian format?
To be honest that doesn't make any difference. It's not being in Canada that's the problem; I get a lot of overseas applications to roles, and if they're not already eligible to work in Canada I don't consider them. The only exception to that, is if they have a very specialised skill set I'm struggling to find.
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You can eddit your posts Raindrops- you have about 2 hours to do so- see little edit box at the bottom i think
Can I? Thanks Stinky, I never realised
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I will be very lucky if I get a job in Canada, right now I'm in India!

I have good experience in cooking, driving and gardening!
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Hello! As others above have said, the points are dropping significantly and I believe it will hover around the 400 mark for a while now. As for how you could get more points, are you definitely maxed out with English scores? If it's IELTS you have taken, making sure you both have L-8, S-7, R-7, W-7 will hopefully boost you.

Definitely network if you are able to. Even a friend of a friend who knows someone with a job may help.
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I will be very lucky if I get a job in Canada, right now I'm in India!

I have good experience in cooking, driving and gardening!
You may want to start you own thread.

If you have a horticultural degree or trade qualification, are an experienced truck driver, or a trade certified chef, give it a go.
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