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oxocube Aug 17th 2005 3:36 am

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The market is flooded with 'IT consultants' with nothing more than a few years experience. What a lot of companies are looking for is the right combination of experience and qualifications. Searching through sites such as Microsoft they are asking for MCSE & x number of years experience for jobs such as after sales technical support.

The jobs are there, it's just the matter of having the right combination of attributes that fit what the company wants. It works the same the world over. I have seen people in the UK get turned away from 1st line support jobs even though they have MCSE qualifications as it's just a piece of paper to say that you have learned the course material. I have seen MCSE qualified contractors who when it comes to a real life IT situation they struggle due to no practical experience.

I have to echo what other people are saying here with a lot of the battle is positive thinking as if you come across negative then no-one is going to hire you as all you will do is bring a bad element to a good working environment. you spend more of your time in work than you do at home generally so managers have to look out for their teams working atmosphere.

I have experience of people blaming their misfortune on the country they are in when it comes down to just making excuses for not keeping going when things are rough and throwing That person was actually blaming the UK for all of their problems and they had to be in the US as that's where their hopes and dreams were... well guess what they are now ...... Canada and has a successful job where he is being trained in a management development role in one of the major Canadian Banks and has just brought his first house. When you finally stop blaming things on a country and realise it's down to your own initiative and perseverance that gets you what you want.

AnyaT Aug 17th 2005 3:38 am

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Seacreature, why are you waiting until April to return? I don't mean this as an attack, I am genuinely curious as to why you would stay an extra 8 months in a city you despise, especially if you have a job lined up in the UK. While I have not been in your position, I live with someone who has and I would be worried that your frustration re: jobs would sour your outlook on everything else in life, and may be a difficult attitude to get rid of, even once you are back in the UK. Is it not possible for you to go back early and have your partner join you in a few months?

dbd33 Aug 17th 2005 3:41 am

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Originally Posted by sysclp
It is a certification that you get by taking a test that proves you know how to repair and troubleshoot PCs.
http://www.a-plus-certification-training-hott.com/

Oh. Thanks. A bit out of my area.

flashman Aug 17th 2005 3:42 am

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Originally Posted by oxocube
The market is flooded with 'IT consultants' with nothing more than a few years experience. What a lot of companies are looking for is the right combination of experience and qualifications. Searching through sites such as Microsoft they are asking for MCSE & x number of years experience for jobs such as after sales technical support.


The IT industry lost a lot of credibility due to the dot com fiasco with their bizarre business models and theories. People with a combination of IT and sound practical business experience are more valuable than pure techies.

Purley Aug 17th 2005 6:13 am

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Just my two cents worth.

It seems to me that there are lots of reasons why people don't want to stay in Canada. Its probably not the fault of Canada or the fault of the person. Its just one of those things. Not anybody's fault. There are things about Canada that I like and there are things about England that I like.

It seems to me that its kind of dumb to turn this into some kind of a slanging match about Canada or individuals etc. etc.

So - it didn't work out - so what?? It's not the end of the world. But its not Canada's fault per se that it didn't work out - at least that is the way I see it.

Canuck74 Aug 17th 2005 6:57 am

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Originally Posted by seacreature
Same old, same old.
Believe me, I'm rather used to hearing that Canada is nirvana and the best country in the world. Woe betide anyone who says anything remotely negative about the place.
Personally I think Canada is crap. It's boring, has no culture whatsoever and surprise surprise it has it's fair share of a**eholes, criminals, druggies and scumbags just like Britain has.
Not a night goes by without news of someone having their face blown off or pedestrians being sprayed by stray bullets.
The ideal perpetuated in Britain about Canada is nothing more than a myth. Canada has all the same problems as Britain and a lot more. At least the UK has history, culture and benign climate. Canada has none of those.

I agree with most of what seacreature has said. Canada is not a nirvana. It is a boring shitehole. It is hard to find decent work. There is no culture.

Purley Aug 17th 2005 7:52 am

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In your opinion - those are not facts - they are just what you BELIEVE.

brit_in_fizroy Aug 17th 2005 8:03 am

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Originally Posted by Canuck74
I agree with most of what seacreature has said. Canada is not a nirvana. It is a boring shitehole. It is hard to find decent work. There is no culture.

This is a tough one - I can only think you are talking of Toronto - many people have problems with this poor city which is so unlike the rest of the country and most like the UK. I had trouble there once finding a restaurant that wasn't a spit-n-sawdust or $100 a steak. I wouldn't call Canada boring, there are few countries in the world as diverse. No culture!!!! your'e kidding, in every major city you will find pretty much every culture you could wish for, maybe your'e thinking of identity but even then I would disagree. As SC mentioned, no history; well that only really covers what we refer to as civilised history, it's a common joke that North America has no history just bad habits. Canada is a young country that is proud of it's heritage, I think if you have shown the attitude your comments highlight to resident Canadians you will have had a tough time. I certainly would not recommend "It is a boring shitehole" in front of the local hockey fraternity!!!

If you really feel this way, why are you here!!!!

Souvenir Aug 17th 2005 8:16 am

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Originally Posted by Canuck74
It is a boring shitehole. It is hard to find decent work. There is no culture.

That sounds like much of the UK. Better scenery here, though, and it's possible to buy a house without mortgaging your grandchildren.

Since when were the Brits culture fanatics, anyway? I lived in London for 15 years and never saw anyone desperately trying to finish off their day's work in time to rush off to the latest avant-garde ballet.

CalgaryBlade Aug 17th 2005 8:35 am

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Originally Posted by Souvenir
Since when were the Brits culture fanatics, anyway?

The culture to which they refer, is either the drinking culture or yob culture.

I doubt they are referring to an afternoon at Glyndebourne.

Souvenir Aug 17th 2005 8:55 am

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Originally Posted by CalgaryBlade
The culture to which they refer, is either the drinking culture or yob culture.

I doubt they are referring to an afternoon at Glyndebourne.

If you look at pictures of people at Glyndebourne, I believe you'll see a fair few glasses in hands. I don't think there's been a pitch-invasion yet but it's surely only a matter of time.

andy_sheila Aug 17th 2005 8:59 am

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Originally Posted by Souvenir
That sounds like much of the UK. Better scenery here, though, and it's possible to buy a house without mortgaging your grandchildren.

Since when were the Brits culture fanatics, anyway? I lived in London for 15 years and never saw anyone desperately trying to finish off their day's work in time to rush off to the latest avant-garde ballet.

"better scenery" ??? Pretty much the same except that there is more of it in Canada.
"possible to buy a house without mortgaging your grandchildren" I totally agree.
"never saw anyone desperately trying to finish off their day's work in time to rush off to the latest avant-garde ballet" Did you ever try and get tickets for the ballet/theatre? they are like rocking horse sh**

On the subject of culture and history, what constitutes a history? Here in the annapolis valley we have just been celebrating the 400th anniversary of the 1st european settlers, is 400 years not history? and as for culture, i think people mistake culture for luxury, glyndebourne is a luxury, not culture and the 1st nation race (the original inhabitants) have as much culture as any other nation. People forget that canada was inhabited before the white man came along. This is a fantastic country, full of history and real culture, it is no better than the UK in some respects and no worse in others. Areas of Toronto are far more dangerous than anywhere in the UK but Canada as a whole is far safer.

CalgaryBlade Aug 17th 2005 9:10 am

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Originally Posted by andy_sheila
"better scenery" ??? Pretty much the same except that there is more of it in Canada.
"

Have you:

Visited Lake O'Hara in Yoho NP?
Driven the Icefields Parkway from Lake Louise to Jasper?
Hiked or taken the lift up to the top of Lake Louise ski hill and looked down onto LL?
Seen the columbia icefield?
Flown from Calgary to Vancouver (or vice-versa) on a summer's evening?
Cycled up the Highwood Pass (highest paved road in Canada) before it opens to traffic and seen a grizzly bear?

There is nothing like any of those things in the UK.

andy_sheila Aug 17th 2005 9:37 am

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Originally Posted by CalgaryBlade
Have you:

Visited Lake O'Hara in Yoho NP?
Driven the Icefields Parkway from Lake Louise to Jasper?
Hiked or taken the lift up to the top of Lake Louise ski hill and looked down onto LL?
Seen the columbia icefield?
Flown from Calgary to Vancouver (or vice-versa) on a summer's evening?
Cycled up the Highwood Pass (highest paved road in Canada) before it opens to traffic and seen a grizzly bear?

There is nothing like any of those things in the UK.

Have you cycled the north york moors, past the tan house inn, the highest pub in the UK?
Visited lake windermere/coniston water/loch ness/loch lomond?
walked to the top of a tor on dartmoor?
Looked out across the bristol channel to lundy island from the coast of north devon?
Driven/hiked/cycled through the scottish highlands?

If you had read what i said, i said it was "pretty much the same" not exactly the same

Souvenir Aug 17th 2005 9:38 am

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Originally Posted by andy_sheila
"better scenery" ??? Pretty much the same except that there is more of it in Canada.

Ah, yes. I'd forgotten the Sussex Rocky Mountains, the coastal rainforests of Lincolnshire, the Essex desert, the vast glacier fields in Aberdeenshire, icebergs floating down the Thames......


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