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Old Jul 14th 2012 | 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by FirstRatofftheShipUK
Some very important advice to take on board, and has been mentioned a few times.

Although I completely understand why, you must make a mental shift away from the standing UK dilemma of more $ = better house in better area = better school.

It is simply not required in Canada and is one of the biggest 'relievers' that I believe parents would take away from their relocation.

Put the area before the house in your planing and the school will just follow by default...not school - area - must then find that house.

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I'm not in Vancouver and all may be different there but, in Toronto, good schools, ones with consistent high scholarship dollars granted to graduating students, are hard to get into. A friend of one of my daughters got a free ride at Brown, second best result for that year's class. I asked the father about it and he chuckled that he could have saved twenty grand on the house by one across the road but his wife talked him out of it. He said the house looked a bargain at that moment. School district isn't a sales tool here but an important consideration for parents.
 
Old Jul 14th 2012 | 2:01 pm
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I'm not in Vancouver and all may be different there but, in Toronto, good schools, ones with consistent high scholarship dollars granted to graduating students, are hard to get into. A friend of one of my daughters got a free ride at Brown, second best result for that year's class. I asked the father about it and he chuckled that he could have saved twenty grand on the house by one across the road but his wife talked him out of it. He said the house looked a bargain at that moment. School district isn't a sales tool here but an important consideration for parents.
It's different in Vancouver.
 
Old Jul 14th 2012 | 2:34 pm
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It's different in Vancouver.
Fair enough. The daughter living there tells me it's not academically competitive in BC, not at all, and that new graduates have their choice of work locations, firms and fields of work. It's just as one imagines, she says, lots of weed, lots of yoga, papers can be handed in any month you like, people coast through school. 90210, she said.

"Yeah", I thought, "one thing an Asian population does for a place is to take the competition out of scholastic efforts".
 
Old Jul 14th 2012 | 11:43 pm
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Fair enough. The daughter living there tells me it's not academically competitive in BC, not at all, and that new graduates have their choice of work locations, firms and fields of work. It's just as one imagines, she says, lots of weed, lots of yoga, papers can be handed in any month you like, people coast through school. 90210, she said.

"Yeah", I thought, "one thing an Asian population does for a place is to take the competition out of scholastic efforts".
Ha,ha. Nice one.
The best way to 'read' dBd33's posts for those not accustomed to his rapier-like wit is to simply assume he has built in a qualifier of sorts into his comments.

Upon reading, one is to remove any "not" and "cannots" in the text, switching them round with any positive impliers in his comments.

Watch, its easy - "I read in the Post the other day that most people in Ontario do not care much about the politics of Immigration. At the same time they do whine about standards in the provincial education system no end; this does surprise me as compared to Alberta I think Ontario is very enlightened".

Switch-a-roo, puff of smoke.

Do this and his 'actual' posts are usually spot on

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Old Jul 15th 2012 | 3:22 am
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Originally Posted by FirstRatofftheShipUK
Ha,ha. Nice one.
The best way to 'read' dBd33's posts for those not accustomed to his rapier-like wit is to simply assume he has built in a qualifier of sorts into his comments.

Upon reading, one is to remove any "not" and "cannots" in the text, switching them round with any positive impliers in his comments.

Watch, its easy - "I read in the Post the other day that most people in Ontario do not care much about the politics of Immigration. At the same time they do whine about standards in the provincial education system no end; this does surprise me as compared to Alberta I think Ontario is very enlightened".

Switch-a-roo, puff of smoke.

Do this and his 'actual' posts are usually spot on

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Us lesser posters have really never understood dbd's posts so I fort one really appreciate you taking the time out to give us a detailed explanation of how they work. In particular, I liked your example for dramatic effect, it was especially insightful into how dbd constructs sentences in his writing style. So thanks a lot - a lot of us would never have worked out irony for ourselves.

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Old Jul 15th 2012 | 3:24 am
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Us lesser posters have really never understood dbd's posts so we really appreciate you taking the time out to give us a detailed explanation of how they work. Thanks.

 
Old Jul 15th 2012 | 4:30 am
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Originally Posted by FirstRatofftheShipUK
Ha,ha. Nice one.
The best way to 'read' dBd33's posts for those not accustomed to his rapier-like wit is to simply assume he has built in a qualifier of sorts into his comments.

Upon reading, one is to remove any "not" and "cannots" in the text, switching them round with any positive impliers in his comments.

Watch, its easy - "I read in the Post the other day that most people in Ontario do not care much about the politics of Immigration. At the same time they do whine about standards in the provincial education system no end; this does surprise me as compared to Alberta I think Ontario is very enlightened".

Switch-a-roo, puff of smoke.

Do this and his 'actual' posts are usually spot on

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Finally, someone who gets it. Thank you for sharing.
 
Old Jul 15th 2012 | 5:06 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Us lesser posters have really never understood dbd's posts so I fort one really appreciate you taking the time out to give us a detailed explanation of how they work. In particular, I liked your example for dramatic effect, it was especially insightful into how dbd constructs sentences in his writing style. So thanks a lot - a lot of us would never have worked out irony for ourselves.
Tsh,tosh - may be of some use to newbies.
That would be your crack at 'sarcasm' then one presumes?
And, you are most welcome Alan

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Old Jul 15th 2012 | 5:17 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Us lesser posters have really never understood dbd's posts so I fort one really appreciate you taking the time out to give us a detailed explanation of how they work. In particular, I liked your example for dramatic effect, it was especially insightful into how dbd constructs sentences in his writing style. So thanks a lot - a lot of us would never have worked out irony for ourselves.
Just for you petal. No need to thank me; a public service.

How To Recognize Irony - Sarcasm Society
Quite often sarcasm is mistaken for irony; however, sarcasm is a form of irony which uses sharp wit to highlight the obviousness, stupidity, or annoyance-factor
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http://www.sarcasmsociety.com/irony/...ize-irony.html


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Old Jul 15th 2012 | 5:35 am
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Originally Posted by FirstRatofftheShipUK
Just for you petal. No need to thank me; a public service.

How To Recognize Irony - Sarcasm Society
Quite often sarcasm is mistaken for irony; however, sarcasm is a form of irony which uses sharp wit to highlight the obviousness, stupidity, or annoyance-factor
of ...

http://www.sarcasmsociety.com/irony/...ize-irony.html


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Pro tip: When attempting to affect an air of knowledgeable condescension, it helps if you cite a source that doesn't contradict itself in the first sentence.
 
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Originally Posted by FirstRatofftheShipUK
Just for you petal. No need to thank me; a public service.

How To Recognize Irony - Sarcasm Society
Quite often sarcasm is mistaken for irony; however, sarcasm is a form of irony which uses sharp wit to highlight the obviousness, stupidity, or annoyance-factor
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http://www.sarcasmsociety.com/irony/...ize-irony.html


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This is all to highbrow for me. But finally, we've got someone on this forum who gives us the straight goods.
 
Old Jul 15th 2012 | 5:49 am
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Pro tip: When attempting to affect an air of knowledgeable condescension, it helps if you cite a source that doesn't contradict itself in the first sentence.
Therein lies the 'irony'.
Please do try to keep up with the game - the Master tires

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Originally Posted by FirstRatofftheShipUK
Therein lies the 'irony'.
Please do try to keep up with the game - the Master tires

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Oh you knew?, That's ok then. I thought for a minute that you'd just googled "difference between sarcasm and irony" and posted the first link you found?
 
Old Jul 15th 2012 | 6:15 am
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yay, i love it when threads drift
 
Old Jul 15th 2012 | 6:16 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Oh you knew?, That's ok then. I thought for a minute that you'd just googled "difference between sarcasm and irony" and posted the first link you found?
Oh dear. Set a trap, tell the tiger where it is and he will still fall in it!
No the 'irony' (sorry for the upcoming Machiavellian lesson Oink ) was that you were using language in the first place, in just the way you were trying to berate.

I know that, and you know, that I know.

Had you trotted out a stock phrase from the start, such as, "Canadians just do not get sarcasm" or perhaps "North Americans do not appreciate Irony", then that would have been a different KOF.

However you didn't, hence my wasting of some (30) potential Billable minutes in English 101.

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