Vancouver's fall from grace in city livability race
Jul 25th 2012, 2:37 pm
#47
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Re: Vancouver's fall from grace in city livability race
Worked for both public and private mate, not a lot of difference (both have their positives and negatives) just remember the private sector is about making money not supplying you with electricty. My previous utility CEO made $3million in the private sector last year; the equivalent CEO in Hydro about $450k - so much for the public sector earning more than the private!
Typical uneducated public seduced by the media and government propaganda.
I dont care for one minute if Hydro was in the public or private sector, makes no difference to me. Simple fact is I cannot recruit appropriate skills in the city whatever you think - if you know suitable candidates let me know and I will be more than happy to interview them (I get a bonus for every vacancy I can fill with external candidates and will only be too happy to oblige). I employ utility electricians not industrial electricians (please compare apples with apples when Ops post comments). Our direct competitors for skilled workers are the energy sector not Jo Blogs doing your local domestic wiring you can hire from the yellow pages. The simple reason to employ private sector workers is there is no requirement to report salaries, they can earn big $$$ and do as much OT as they like without public scrutiny - excellent value for the public.
Too many people in this place with rose tinted spectacles.
Typical uneducated public seduced by the media and government propaganda. I dont care for one minute if Hydro was in the public or private sector, makes no difference to me. Simple fact is I cannot recruit appropriate skills in the city whatever you think - if you know suitable candidates let me know and I will be more than happy to interview them (I get a bonus for every vacancy I can fill with external candidates and will only be too happy to oblige). I employ utility electricians not industrial electricians (please compare apples with apples when Ops post comments). Our direct competitors for skilled workers are the energy sector not Jo Blogs doing your local domestic wiring you can hire from the yellow pages. The simple reason to employ private sector workers is there is no requirement to report salaries, they can earn big $$$ and do as much OT as they like without public scrutiny - excellent value for the public.Too many people in this place with rose tinted spectacles.
Jul 25th 2012, 2:42 pm
#48
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Re: Vancouver's fall from grace in city livability race
Is that as a DC or higher? or whatever the rank structure is.I was chatting to a an ex met copper who works for new west police....he is still astonished at what coppers here earn compared to the UK.
Jul 25th 2012, 2:50 pm
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Re: Vancouver's fall from grace in city livability race
as a major crime sgt....(detective sgt in the UK) yes that is with overtime, plain clothes pay, senority pay, service pay etc....still only works out to about a 48 hour week though...worked 450 hours of overtime last year. Busier this year though, will likely hit around 165 k, if the pace keeps up.
I was chatting to a an ex met copper who works for new west police....he is still astonished at what coppers here earn compared to the UK.
I was chatting to a an ex met copper who works for new west police....he is still astonished at what coppers here earn compared to the UK.
Jul 25th 2012, 3:56 pm
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Re: Vancouver's fall from grace in city livability race
I tend to think most in the major cities can make over 100 grand with overtime without being totally married to the job. OT where I am is minimal compared to yours but there are a few land border officers making around the 100 grand mark. Im happy enough with my 300 hrs every 56 day cycle of 30 x 10 hr shifts and 26 days off thank you. A 3 hour call back for the 4 am flights on a day off no thank you.
There are also other benefits....car, phone, pension plan, benefits, compressed work weeks, leave etc....pretty decent over all.
Jul 25th 2012, 4:02 pm
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Re: Vancouver's fall from grace in city livability race
Yep as I said, most cops make at least 100 k, with not much effort. I could work lots more, but turn down the discretionary ot...could have worked 30 hours last weekend at 100 bucks an hour, but I didn't need it, so let the jr members take it. I try and find some balance these days, but it's not always easy. I know guys at my level earning over 200 k a year, but they work all the hours they can.
There are also other benefits....car, phone, pension plan, benefits, compressed work weeks, leave etc....pretty decent over all.
There are also other benefits....car, phone, pension plan, benefits, compressed work weeks, leave etc....pretty decent over all.
Jul 25th 2012, 4:10 pm
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Re: Vancouver's fall from grace in city livability race
There again according to this article Vancouver is pretty elitist
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2.../20024056.html
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2.../20024056.html
Jul 25th 2012, 4:35 pm
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Re: Vancouver's fall from grace in city livability race
There again according to this article Vancouver is pretty elitist
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2.../20024056.html
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2.../20024056.html
I'd say she had a chip on her shoulder but she'd probably eat it.
Jul 25th 2012, 4:42 pm
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Re: Vancouver's fall from grace in city livability race
There again according to this article Vancouver is pretty elitist
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2.../20024056.html
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2.../20024056.html
Jul 25th 2012, 4:57 pm
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Re: Vancouver's fall from grace in city livability race
Depends where i am. I see more fatties in Maple Ridge than i did in Richmond, UK. I see more fatties in Mission and Abbortsford than i did in Harpenden.
I also noticed more fatties in Leeds than i do in White Rock.
There are probably equally as many fatties in both countries.
I also noticed more fatties in Leeds than i do in White Rock.
There are probably equally as many fatties in both countries.
Jul 25th 2012, 5:44 pm
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Re: Vancouver's fall from grace in city livability race
Well I know a ton of ex-Vancouverites living here, doesn't really prove anything. They seem to move here to get bigger houses or merely to afford a house, based on the conversations I've had. I had this conversation at the drug store yesterday, the pharmacist is an ex-Vancouverite and I asked her why she moved here, Vancouver is "too crowded and too expensive".
Jul 25th 2012, 5:47 pm
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Re: Vancouver's fall from grace in city livability race
So what would you call overcrowded? I'm hard pressed to think of anywhere in N America more crowded. Manhattan? Parts of Mexico City?
Basically a tiny sliver of land 25 miles wide at the end of the Fraser Valley.
Basically a tiny sliver of land 25 miles wide at the end of the Fraser Valley.
Jul 25th 2012, 5:52 pm
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Re: Vancouver's fall from grace in city livability race
On the crowding point, Calgary is 22 miles top to bottom and doesn't have a harbour in the middle of it and has a population of 1.1 million. So even purely based on the metro area Calgary is fantastically less crowded. I realize I'm stating the blindingly obvious by saying that, but the point is that Calgary doesn't have the same restrictions on growth. In Vancouver it seems to me the only way to increase space is going to be to go skyward, and Vancouver is famous for the restrictions it has on building height.