vancouver or toronto??
#16
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Re: vancouver or toronto??
This demonstrates exactly why the videos should never have been posted in the first place. Also, NumpyPI doesn't live in Toronto.
I've lived in both places. Both are fine and I'm not sure the differences are really that great. Vancouver is smaller, more outdoors stuff, not really a city in lots of ways. I lived in Kits which was very pleasant. Where you can afford to live makes a big difference I think. Toronto is bigger, more city stuff going on. Lots of nice neighbourhoods, good shopping, restaurants etc. Subway makes getting around relatively easy. Easier to get to UK if that matters.
If you do a recce and the weather is nice you will love Vancouver as opposed to Toronto. Just remember a visit is not the same as living there though. Probably more work opportunities in TO for a chef?
I've lived in both places. Both are fine and I'm not sure the differences are really that great. Vancouver is smaller, more outdoors stuff, not really a city in lots of ways. I lived in Kits which was very pleasant. Where you can afford to live makes a big difference I think. Toronto is bigger, more city stuff going on. Lots of nice neighbourhoods, good shopping, restaurants etc. Subway makes getting around relatively easy. Easier to get to UK if that matters.
If you do a recce and the weather is nice you will love Vancouver as opposed to Toronto. Just remember a visit is not the same as living there though. Probably more work opportunities in TO for a chef?
Vancouver is much prettier and personally I think has much nicer summers. Cost of living is higher if you own, I imagine renting is similar. Lower utility costs in Vancouver due to the milder climate.
#17
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Re: vancouver or toronto??
As others have said, $1,500 a month is fine for a condo but a bit light for a house in a decent area. The best place to look and get an idea of rental prices is craig's list. http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/apa/
$2,000 will get a family home in the suburbs.
Edit: Vancouver area.
$2,000 will get a family home in the suburbs.
Edit: Vancouver area.
Last edited by JonboyE; Jul 23rd 2010 at 3:21 am.
#18
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If you do decide to give Toronto a try, I'd recommend looking into living in the High Park area. There are a few apartment buildings that offer decent condos for a decent price, or you can look into renting a flat in the adjacent Roncesvalles, within one of those huge old victorian houses that people have split into multi-family units. That's what we did, and we really liked it. This is a nice neighbourhood, you get a "small town" feeling where people actually walk to the grocery store, kids walk to school and lake Ontario and High Park are also within walking distance with all they have to offer. On the other hand, you can get on the subway and be downtown in 10 minutes.
I myself prefer small towns to big cities, but I can see how being a chef that's really not an option, so I won't go into describing the beauties of rural life. But for a young family with kids that has to live in Toronto, High Park/Roncesvalles is a great area.
I myself prefer small towns to big cities, but I can see how being a chef that's really not an option, so I won't go into describing the beauties of rural life. But for a young family with kids that has to live in Toronto, High Park/Roncesvalles is a great area.
#19
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No university though to pursue a law career though... I suppose there are plenty of places like Kingston, K-W etc though that could also support the OPs needs, and thats just Ontario. They do say they would prefer a small town feel after all.
There may be fewer absolute numbers of job opportunities in smaller towns, but then there are fewer people chasing those jobs too, and more opportunity perhaps to get known around the place and network?
#20
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I'm not sure I follow this. If attending a university is required as part of the NCA certification then finding one for that will be the driving force in selecting a location. If the certification is administrivia then finding a firm that will take you on with only a foreign qualification might be a project and determine the location. I would think that, compared to this, finding a job in some sort of kitchen would be relatively easy, though finding an appropriate position in an appropriate kitchen might also be a challenge.
#21
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I personally happen to think that Kingston is one of the best places to live. And yes, there are lots of restaurants, and the University, and tons of things to do with the kids. Plus 1500/month for rent will actually take you a long way! And it has the lake, and this amazing vibe....
I love Kingston.... We are talking about Kingston, ON, right?
I love Kingston.... We are talking about Kingston, ON, right?
#22
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I personally happen to think that Kingston is one of the best places to live. And yes, there are lots of restaurants, and the University, and tons of things to do with the kids. Plus 1500/month for rent will actually take you a long way! And it has the lake, and this amazing vibe....
I love Kingston.... We are talking about Kingston, ON, right?
I love Kingston.... We are talking about Kingston, ON, right?
#23
Re: vancouver or toronto??
I'm on another, like, planet. Unless the objective is just to admire the university buildings, one needs a place before a school is any use. This typically means getting into the school and moving to it. Thus, physical proximity to a university for which one may not qualify or which may not offer a course of interest, seems of little value.
#24
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From a purely quasi-experimental empirical basis, Vancouver is nice, Toronto is crap.
#25
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I'm on another, like, planet. Unless the objective is just to admire the university buildings, one needs a place before a school is any use. This typically means getting into the school and moving to it. Thus, physical proximity to a university for which one may not qualify or which may not offer a course of interest, seems of little value.
We always went where our studies took us, that's how we ended up living in Toronto, even though we didn't plan to.
So I think dbd has the best advice: find a place at a Uni and go live there! Maybe you can just open your own restaurant if there aren't enough chef jobs around?
#27
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Cant believe it but its looks like we might be going to Toronto now. Rather excited after 2 years of shyte in Ireland. Wont be supporting the Maple Laughs though
#28
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I am currently studying for a law degree which i am hoping to get certified by the NCA in Canada and take the bar there so the universities in both areas were also a factor as are the jobs available after qualification.
On the university front, S Ontario has a collection of excellent universities (arguably world class in one or two instances). Waterloo, Western Ont and UofT are all relatively close to each other geographically and excellent in my area (not law admittedly). Queen's, I think, has a really strong reputation for law . Mcgill in Montreal has one of the best in the country but that's a ways north.
If you head to Vancouver, UBC and Simon Fraser are also really strong universities so you prob can't go wrong there on that front. Check out the 'Maclean's Guide to Canadian Universities' if you come out on a recce trip (maybe you can get online) available in most bookstores. That'll give you the latest lowdown on the good law schools in Canada.
On the university front, S Ontario has a collection of excellent universities (arguably world class in one or two instances). Waterloo, Western Ont and UofT are all relatively close to each other geographically and excellent in my area (not law admittedly). Queen's, I think, has a really strong reputation for law . Mcgill in Montreal has one of the best in the country but that's a ways north.
If you head to Vancouver, UBC and Simon Fraser are also really strong universities so you prob can't go wrong there on that front. Check out the 'Maclean's Guide to Canadian Universities' if you come out on a recce trip (maybe you can get online) available in most bookstores. That'll give you the latest lowdown on the good law schools in Canada.