Un-happy in Canada!
#151
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Clearly I have too be more specific, its too far from any decent city such as Seatttle/Bellingham/Spokane.
BC in general though is a crap hole, and its impossible to be happy here for some. Gotta have tons of $$$$ to enjoy life in this province otherwise its an unpleasant place to live with no future.
BC in general though is a crap hole, and its impossible to be happy here for some. Gotta have tons of $$$$ to enjoy life in this province otherwise its an unpleasant place to live with no future.
#152
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I am not a huge fan of any big city to be honest but at least in Vancouver East Hastings is where the vast majority of crack heads are on the street so they are confined to one main street. In Seattle they are everywhere, the main city is pretty much a dirty cesspit. The large outlet malls near Tulalip are great for shopping but they are not in the city itself. What line of work are you and your partner in if you don't mind me asking? I know lots of people that don't have high income and still love living here. Are you both out of work, is that the main problem you are having?
My spouse works at a real estate office as an admin assistant.
We both have health issues that limits our work to part time. I do 30 hours a week and she does 22 most weeks.
Neither of us have careers or any useful skills although she has some college but no degree.
#153
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Of course there's more drug consumption in Seattle than Penticton, though perhaps not per capita. Seattle is a city, it has drugs, and a market with cheese and fish and an IKEA and all the rest of the city stuff. The Okykoky region of BC instead has open spaces and the option to kill animals.
I know of the Okykoky only from the jossies posts, it's not a place one would otherwise have reason to have heard of. And so I have the idea that people living there are constantly aware that their lives are better than other peoples'. People there are delighted not to be blighted with poverty, disease or indifference to athleticism. The Okykoky seems not to be a geographic region so much as a lifestyle statement; we live here because we're quite well off, we seek to deny our aging and we're neither rich enough nor beautiful enough to live in California. We do outdoor things every day, twice, three times even, we're as fit as Joan Rivers and as good looking as Jocelyn Wildenstien.
I'd certainly choose Seattle as a place to visit over the jossie's Okykoky but, it has to be said, I'm not keen on killing things. I like there to be wildlife. If dead animals are your thing it seems the Okykoky is your place.
#154
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I thought of this post this morning while I was walking from the car park. I went by a group of people who were injecting themselves (note that the car thermometer read -30C). Is that heroin, I thought? I dunno, maybe they're diabetics. Only the jossies would know from a distance what's in their syringes.
Of course there's more drug consumption in Seattle than Penticton, though perhaps not per capita. Seattle is a city, it has drugs, and a market with cheese and fish and an IKEA and all the rest of the city stuff. The Okykoky region of BC instead has open spaces and the option to kill animals.
I know of the Okykoky only from the jossies posts,it's not a place one would otherwise have reason to have heard of. And so I have the idea that people living there are constantly aware that their lives are better than other peoples'. People there are delighted not to be blighted with poverty, disease or indifference to athleticism. The Okykoky seems not to be a geographic region so much as a lifestyle statement; we live here because we're quite well off, we seek to deny our aging and we're neither rich enough nor beautiful enough to live in California. We do outdoor things every day, twice, three times even, we're as fit as Joan Rivers and as good looking as Jocelyn Wildenstien.
I'd certainly choose Seattle as a place to visit over the jossie's Okykoky but, it has to be said, I'm not keen on killing things. I like there to be wildlife. If dead animals are your thing it seems the Okykoky is your place.
Of course there's more drug consumption in Seattle than Penticton, though perhaps not per capita. Seattle is a city, it has drugs, and a market with cheese and fish and an IKEA and all the rest of the city stuff. The Okykoky region of BC instead has open spaces and the option to kill animals.
I know of the Okykoky only from the jossies posts,it's not a place one would otherwise have reason to have heard of. And so I have the idea that people living there are constantly aware that their lives are better than other peoples'. People there are delighted not to be blighted with poverty, disease or indifference to athleticism. The Okykoky seems not to be a geographic region so much as a lifestyle statement; we live here because we're quite well off, we seek to deny our aging and we're neither rich enough nor beautiful enough to live in California. We do outdoor things every day, twice, three times even, we're as fit as Joan Rivers and as good looking as Jocelyn Wildenstien.
I'd certainly choose Seattle as a place to visit over the jossie's Okykoky but, it has to be said, I'm not keen on killing things. I like there to be wildlife. If dead animals are your thing it seems the Okykoky is your place.
#155
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Re: Un-happy in Canada!
When I was in Ontario, I was a mere 1 hour from Toronto, and cost of living was reasonable and still had easy access to Toronto.
Go an hour from Vancouver any direction and its still pricey.
(For reference I am about an hour from Vancouver)
If I could get a job that could pay enough to support 2 people, I'd move to New Foundland after seeing the housing prices, of course I can't make that much, and disability isn't transferable to other provinces so we are stuck in BC.
#156
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I thought of this post this morning while I was walking from the car park. I went by a group of people who were injecting themselves (note that the car thermometer read -30C). Is that heroin, I thought? I dunno, maybe they're diabetics. Only the jossies would know from a distance what's in their syringes.
Of course there's more drug consumption in Seattle than Penticton, though perhaps not per capita. Seattle is a city, it has drugs, and a market with cheese and fish and an IKEA and all the rest of the city stuff. The Okykoky region of BC instead has open spaces and the option to kill animals.
I know of the Okykoky only from the jossies posts, it's not a place one would otherwise have reason to have heard of. And so I have the idea that people living there are constantly aware that their lives are better than other peoples'. People there are delighted not to be blighted with poverty, disease or indifference to athleticism. The Okykoky seems not to be a geographic region so much as a lifestyle statement; we live here because we're quite well off, we seek to deny our aging and we're neither rich enough nor beautiful enough to live in California. We do outdoor things every day, twice, three times even, we're as fit as Joan Rivers and as good looking as Jocelyn Wildenstien.
I'd certainly choose Seattle as a place to visit over the jossie's Okykoky but, it has to be said, I'm not keen on killing things. I like there to be wildlife. If dead animals are your thing it seems the Okykoky is your place.
Of course there's more drug consumption in Seattle than Penticton, though perhaps not per capita. Seattle is a city, it has drugs, and a market with cheese and fish and an IKEA and all the rest of the city stuff. The Okykoky region of BC instead has open spaces and the option to kill animals.
I know of the Okykoky only from the jossies posts, it's not a place one would otherwise have reason to have heard of. And so I have the idea that people living there are constantly aware that their lives are better than other peoples'. People there are delighted not to be blighted with poverty, disease or indifference to athleticism. The Okykoky seems not to be a geographic region so much as a lifestyle statement; we live here because we're quite well off, we seek to deny our aging and we're neither rich enough nor beautiful enough to live in California. We do outdoor things every day, twice, three times even, we're as fit as Joan Rivers and as good looking as Jocelyn Wildenstien.
I'd certainly choose Seattle as a place to visit over the jossie's Okykoky but, it has to be said, I'm not keen on killing things. I like there to be wildlife. If dead animals are your thing it seems the Okykoky is your place.
BTW i don't like killing things either.
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Re: Un-happy in Canada!
We lived in the Okanagan before we came to Vancouver and although a beautiful place, we never settled there and felt isolated. Getting anywhere, meant a flight or a long drive. The winters can be long for most people, unless you ski etc, which most don't due to the high costs. If you love the outdoor life, it offers lots, but for most expats there, it's not what they're used to and after the initial euphoria has worn off, reality sets in. Most expats living in the okanagan came from somewhere that had a big city nearby and all that it offers. That isn't the case in okanagan.
#159
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We lived in the Okanagan before we came to Vancouver and although a beautiful place, we never settled there and felt isolated. Getting anywhere, meant a flight or a long drive. The winters can be long for most people, unless you ski etc, which most don't due to the high costs. If you love the outdoor life, it offers lots, but for most expats there, it's not what they're used to and after the initial euphoria has worn off, reality sets in. Most expats living in the okanagan came from somewhere that had a big city nearby and all that it offers. That isn't the case in okanagan.
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We lived in the Okanagan before we came to Vancouver and although a beautiful place, we never settled there and felt isolated. Getting anywhere, meant a flight or a long drive. The winters can be long for most people, unless you ski etc, which most don't due to the high costs. If you love the outdoor life, it offers lots, but for most expats there, it's not what they're used to and after the initial euphoria has worn off, reality sets in. Most expats living in the okanagan came from somewhere that had a big city nearby and all that it offers. That isn't the case in okanagan.
That is my biggest reason for not moving there. I feel isolated now and I am only 60km's from Vancouver, but its a tiring drive and not enjoyable, and well costs a nice few loonies to get there and back, 1/2 tank minimum usually.
Squamish too is a great place if you love the outdoors and wan't to be reasonably close to skiing, and it's what draws people here along with proximity to Vancouver and the fact you can purchase a nice home for 500,000/600,000 that would be 1 million+ in Vancouver, so commuters come here as its a nicer commute then coming from the Fraser Valley region.
I was interested in skiing, then realize how pricey it is, and quickly got that idea out of my head...
I am urban dweller 100%, just can't do the urban lifestyle since its not within our budget, but I'd probably be happy if we could get a condo downtown, dump the cash eating car, but not doable.
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RE unhappy in Canada Delboy07
Well I'm not sure if you read my post . I've been here in BC Vancouver Island 18 years arrived November 1996. I knew the next day I would go home . Yes, it's a good quality of life here if you can find full-time work and a liveable wage. However - it's very different here and nothing like England. I have kept my spirits up by seeking out other Brits and Europeans ,they understand our cultural needs - The Legion is a good place to hang out although there are less of our older WW11 Vets around. You can still find someone from the Military .
I'm preparing to return to England after 18 years *I'm going home Yes, it's going to be different. Re your family - Maybe take them to England for a few years , rent out your BC home and rent something over there , I'm sure your family will enjoy the time . Just remember to apply for you Citizenship ASAP. All the best ukchrissie
Well I'm not sure if you read my post . I've been here in BC Vancouver Island 18 years arrived November 1996. I knew the next day I would go home . Yes, it's a good quality of life here if you can find full-time work and a liveable wage. However - it's very different here and nothing like England. I have kept my spirits up by seeking out other Brits and Europeans ,they understand our cultural needs - The Legion is a good place to hang out although there are less of our older WW11 Vets around. You can still find someone from the Military .
I'm preparing to return to England after 18 years *I'm going home Yes, it's going to be different. Re your family - Maybe take them to England for a few years , rent out your BC home and rent something over there , I'm sure your family will enjoy the time . Just remember to apply for you Citizenship ASAP. All the best ukchrissie
#162
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We lived in the Okanagan before we came to Vancouver and although a beautiful place, we never settled there and felt isolated. Getting anywhere, meant a flight or a long drive. The winters can be long for most people, unless you ski etc, which most don't due to the high costs. If you love the outdoor life, it offers lots, but for most expats there, it's not what they're used to and after the initial euphoria has worn off, reality sets in. Most expats living in the okanagan came from somewhere that had a big city nearby and all that it offers. That isn't the case in okanagan.
My sister has lived in London for years and loves it. She also loved coming here for a holiday but could never live here. Similarly i loved visiting her last year but could never live in London, its not for me.
#163
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Yeah, living here is awful. The beaches, boating, camping, hiking, golfing, wineries, hunting, fishing, snowmobiling, snow shoeing, cross country skiing, ice fishing, climbing etc. it's such a drag. Might have to suffer again this weekend and drag my ass up to another amazing ski resort.
To be honest we have found that living here in the Okanagan is much the same as being on vacation here. For example this weekend gone we snow shoed on Saturday, cross country skied on Sunday and downhill skied on Monday. Each time we saw tourists that were here on vacation and we are always mindful that we are lucky as this is just a normal weekend for us. Same as in the summer months when we are on the lake or beach or doing a wine tour. We bump into tourists but these are things we do all the time. I agree with you that people who love the outdoors love it here. People who are after the city life tend not to fare too well. The only British couple I know that left the Okanagan were into the UK pub culture and they liked their designer labels and shopping. As far as I am concerned those type of people are best off back in the UK.
The Okanagan doesn't have this issue. We have a brand new cinemas, brand new event centers (hockey arena) so good hockey and concerts in town, good restaurants, lots of great wineries which also many have great lake view restaurants, great micro breweries so good local craft beer. We are also currently having a new theatre built. There are bars and night clubs - not a lot of them but they are here. Great beaches, great lakes, great golf courses etc. Shops are pretty good too.
Some restraint on "look at how great my life is" on this thread mightn't be a bad idea? Just a thought.
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Hi Transatlantic, just out of curiosity where in Canada did you live?x
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Most expats (all those that we know for sure) at some time have questioned was leaving the UK the right thing to do. Sometimes it's as soon as you arrive or for others it may be later on. When we arrived, we completely tried to embrace the Canadian way of life and did so to a certain amount. As the years went by, although enjoying our life here, we became unsettled. Once that happens it's hard to start over again and regain that passion we all most probably had when we landed. It's then that you become discontented with your life and from then on all you can think about is the old days and what your life might have been like if you'd stayed in the UK. Now days with the internet and with forums like these, finding others in the same situation only adds fuel to the fire. Once you're as unhappy as the original poster stated, it's almost impossible to turn those feelings around no matter how hard you try.