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niccoll Oct 25th 2017 2:14 pm

UK nurse moving to Canada
 
Hello all,

I am just wondering if there are any british nurses who have moved to Vancouver or Canada in general recently?

I am in the process of waiting for my evaluation from NNAS, I have been in contact with British Columbia Women's Hospital as I am currently working as a neonatal nurse, but I am qualified originally as an adult nurse. They are going to interview me once I have my answers back from NNAS.

I am after some more information about the process after receiving the go ahead from NNAS. The hospital have said they should be able to sponsor my visa for permenant residency etc...

Things have taken a bit longer because my university decided not to send a completed form to NNAS, I am currently about 4-5 weeks delayed because of them.

I am going out to Canada with my husband and our 2 dogs, and rather than flying out, as ourdogs would not cope, we are going over by ship. The earliest we can book the kennels on the ship is 13th July '18, but they fill up pretty quickly, therefore we have the dilemma of 'do we book now and just pay a small fee if we need to transfer the dates?'. It would be great if someone could give me any idea of a timeframe between the go ahead from NNAS and getting out to Canada.

Thanks in advance,

Nicole.

Silverdragon102 Oct 25th 2017 10:05 pm

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 
Doesn’t matter what NNAS say you still need to go through the College of RN for the province and get licensing sorted. Great getting job sorted but a lot will depend on how quickly the college will be and you sitting and passing NCLEX. Timeframe can for nurses be difficult to gauge

Siouxie Oct 25th 2017 10:30 pm

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https://www.crnbc.ca/Registration/RN...ionstages.aspx and timelines: https://www.crnbc.ca/Registration/RN.../Applying.aspx

https://www.clpnbc.org/IENRegistration

:)

Brooks52 Oct 26th 2017 10:36 am

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 
I am a UK trained adult nurse, BSc (Hons) First Class, currently going through the process of trying to gain registration with CRNBC. My timeline has so far looked like this.

Applied to NNAS : April 2016
Recieved NNAS Report : February 2017 *Not Comparable*
Applied to CRNBC : March 5 2017
Referred to NCAS : March 22nd 2017
Completed NCAS Assessment : July 30th 2017
Received NCAS Report : September 26 2017
Received CRNBC Decision on Registration : October 20th 2017

I am required to complete a 1 year Re-entry to practice program. I have three years to complete this, after which I will be eligible for Provisional Registration and can sit the NCLEX exam.

There is a long, expensive road to registration after NNAS. If your lucky you may get a better NNAS or NCAS result then I did though! Good Luck!

mikey8954 Oct 28th 2017 2:49 am

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 
Everyone’s journey through this is very different but all share a frustratingly protracted and expensive process. My timeline is pretty quick compared to most I’ve seen.
Applied NNAS April 2016
Received NNAS Report and Applid CRNNS October 2016
Authorisation to Test and Eligibility for Registration December 2016
NCLEX passed April 2017

I was fortunate, I was able to,prove with my work experience that I had sufficient experience of all patient groups not to have to do a bridging course or competency’s test. One of the reasons I applied to CRNNS first was because of advice I received about their process and their comparatively speedy turnaround. Once you have a full license in one province, getting it endorsed to any other is relatively straight forward and quick.

I’m not moving to BC, instead I’m going to be in YT for a couple of years (not my first choice but I needed a work visa first so couldn’t be picky). We will apply for PR soon and then be able to work anywhere but be aware that if you’re employer will be sponsoring your application, sometimes they don’t do what they say because things change. I had this experience in NS and Ontario. If you’re committed to BC and this particular employer, they will have a much easier time employing you if you are already eligible to work because you have your PR visa.

We are taking our very elderly dog to YT in December, we’ve done a lot of research and we’re actually pretty confident with him flying. If you’re committed to going by boat, I would probably book now for next year particularly if there is an option to change the dates with a reasonable fee if you’re job is a defining factor on when you can make the move.

Be prepared to have very adjustable timescales though, I thought that with efficiency on my part I could be in Canada in 9-12 months, in reality it will have been 18 months. You’re relying on organisations like NNAS to work efficiently and that isn’t always the case. If organisations don’t meet their published timescales, be on their back pretty quickly, call them and get a person to “complain to”. This was the only reason my NNAS application got sorted so quickly and my CRNNS application was not touched in the timescales they advertised but within 2 days of me pestering, it was done and I was eligible for registration. Obviously I was always nice and professional in my contact but it does seem to make a difference if you are relentlessly engaged with these organisations.

aja424 Oct 30th 2017 1:22 pm

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I am an RMN and my NNAS report resulted in 'not comparable'. I applied to CRPNBC. I am required to complete a bridging program designed specifically for internationally trained nurses. There are 3 modules that I need to complete, although I noticed that the full bridging course is 8 modules so I imagine I'm lucky. The course is similar to studying with the Open University so this suits me ad I completed my nurse training via the OU.

aja424 Oct 30th 2017 1:38 pm

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Hi Mikey.
You say that 'Once you have a full license in one province, getting it endorsed to any other is relatively straight forward and quick'.
I have chosen BC. When I first started looking at properties under $400 000 there was about 60 properties to choose from in areas close to potential employers. Now there are 5 and they're not looking too nice. I have been thinking recently about whether or not moving to Canada is a good idea. Willing to downsize but next year they will be no chance of buying a property.
If what you are saying is correct about getting a license from one province to another is relatively easy, then transferring to Alberta could be an option after a year or so.

Shakyuk Oct 31st 2017 9:18 am

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 

Originally Posted by aja424 (Post 12371016)
I am an RMN and my NNAS report resulted in 'not comparable'. I applied to CRPNBC. I am required to complete a bridging program designed specifically for internationally trained nurses. There are 3 modules that I need to complete, although I noticed that the full bridging course is 8 modules so I imagine I'm lucky. The course is similar to studying with the Open University so this suits me ad I completed my nurse training via the OU.


My girlfriend is a RMN and is currently being assessed by NNAS. She may end up having to do a bridging program like yourself. How much are the individual units? Then we have an idea of how much this is going to cost.

aja424 Oct 31st 2017 9:53 am

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The unit/module which I've started has cost £300. The next two are around £400 each so just over £1000 in total. You only do one at a time so the cost is spread.

Shakyuk Oct 31st 2017 12:35 pm

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 

Originally Posted by aja424 (Post 12371631)
The unit/module which I've started has cost £300. The next two are around £400 each so just over £1000 in total. You only do one at a time so the cost is spread.


How long do you think it'll take? Not cheap then! Good luck :thumbup:

Brooks52 Nov 2nd 2017 2:24 pm

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The one year bridging program will cost in excess of $10000 CAD. It is potentially eligible for students loans though depending on the students circumstances.
It seems a lot but is a fairly standard cost of a years post-secondary education in Canada.

Shakyuk Nov 2nd 2017 7:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Brooks52 (Post 12373401)
The one year bridging program will cost in excess of $10000 CAD. It is potentially eligible for students loans though depending on the students circumstances.
It seems a lot but is a fairly standard cost of a years post-secondary education in Canada.

Now that really isn't cheap. It makes me wonder how so many nurses come from developing countries and practice in Canada. How do they afford everything involved to get registered.

Yorkiechef Nov 2nd 2017 11:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Brooks52 (Post 12373401)
The one year bridging program will cost in excess of $10000 CAD. It is potentially eligible for students loans though depending on the students circumstances.
It seems a lot but is a fairly standard cost of a years post-secondary education in Canada.

. YES, TO DE-SKILL!

I know someone that has recently (June) completed the entire programme at Mount Royal university. fees were about $6k and $1500 in books/uniforms and medical equipment. Most of this was tax deductible when you submit your tax return. Then there is registration fees and licence fees, nlex exam all again tax deductible. So yeah, about $10k all up.

shaper Dec 8th 2017 9:05 am

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I'm new to the whole peocess and just looking at how difficult it would be to move and nurse in Canada.
I have a few queries?
Why is the NNAS based in Philidelphia?
Why is the fee payable in American Dollars ($)?
Does a British General Nurse often need a bridging qualification?
Would a Child Branch qualified Nurse with the MSc in Advanced Practice need a bridging qualification?

I know you'd be guessing some of the answers, but any insight would be helpful.

Silverdragon102 Dec 8th 2017 1:37 pm

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Originally Posted by shaper (Post 12395915)
I'm new to the whole peocess and just looking at how difficult it would be to move and nurse in Canada.
I have a few queries?
Why is the NNAS based in Philidelphia?
Why is the fee payable in American Dollars ($)?
Does a British General Nurse often need a bridging qualification?
Would a Child Branch qualified Nurse with the MSc in Advanced Practice need a bridging qualification?

I know you'd be guessing some of the answers, but any insight would be helpful.

When the colleges got together and they put the tender out for an agency to evaluate transcripts it was the agency in Philadelphia that won the contract and because they are based in the US that results in payments in US$.

Each province is different but it does appear most UK nurses have to bridge.

Only the college can decide whether a bridge course is required

scilly Dec 8th 2017 8:04 pm

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Bridging appears to be necessary because Canadian nurses do a 4 year university degree and seem to do more courses than a UK nurse ......... eg, a nurse with mental health specialty will also have done obstetrics. That does not seem to be the case from the UK?

ponylife Dec 30th 2017 9:01 am

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I am applying for NNAS right now and unsure on what the nursing examinations counts as, if anyone could help please!

"For Nursing Examinations outside of Canada: The following questions refer to Nursing Examinations you may have completed in your home country or other locations outside of Canada."

Would this count as every exam I took throughout university or is it meant as post registration exams such as the NCLEX in Ca?

anders101 Dec 30th 2017 7:42 pm

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 

Originally Posted by scilly (Post 12396343)
Bridging appears to be necessary because Canadian nurses do a 4 year university degree and seem to do more courses than a UK nurse ......... eg, a nurse with mental health specialty will also have done obstetrics. That does not seem to be the case from the UK?


I am sorry, but the above is complete flannel!

I taught as a RN teacher for many years in Canada. The difference is in course content and not number of courses or years of training.

The Canadian mental health nurses are certainly not trained in obstetrics.

We have a much more general training in the UK which in fact covered a lot more specialties than in canada, Although Canadian nurses are book smart, I personally have lost a lot of the advanced skills that were expected of us in the UK. It is more a 'follow doctors orders' culture here and don't use your brain.

I personally did not have to do the bridging programme here as my experience and qualifications were accepted by the board at that time. However, i was grateful for the study i had to do to sit the Canadian Nursing exams. It was while studying for these that i realised just how different the terminology is. Without studying, I would have been stumped on the drug names, abbreviations for things, and all sorts of other things i had not heard of. When I read my first page of Dr's orders, it might as well been in double dutch. It seems frustrating that we have to do extra training, however, the cultures are so different that a transitioning period is helpful.

niccoll Feb 2nd 2018 11:24 pm

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 

Originally Posted by mikey8954 (Post 12369979)
Everyone’s journey through this is very different but all share a frustratingly protracted and expensive process. My timeline is pretty quick compared to most I’ve seen.
Applied NNAS April 2016
Received NNAS Report and Applid CRNNS October 2016
Authorisation to Test and Eligibility for Registration December 2016
NCLEX passed April 2017

I was fortunate, I was able to,prove with my work experience that I had sufficient experience of all patient groups not to have to do a bridging course or competency’s test. One of the reasons I applied to CRNNS first was because of advice I received about their process and their comparatively speedy turnaround. Once you have a full license in one province, getting it endorsed to any other is relatively straight forward and quick.

I’m not moving to BC, instead I’m going to be in YT for a couple of years (not my first choice but I needed a work visa first so couldn’t be picky). We will apply for PR soon and then be able to work anywhere but be aware that if you’re employer will be sponsoring your application, sometimes they don’t do what they say because things change. I had this experience in NS and Ontario. If you’re committed to BC and this particular employer, they will have a much easier time employing you if you are already eligible to work because you have your PR visa.

We are taking our very elderly dog to YT in December, we’ve done a lot of research and we’re actually pretty confident with him flying. If you’re committed to going by boat, I would probably book now for next year particularly if there is an option to change the dates with a reasonable fee if you’re job is a defining factor on when you can make the move.

Be prepared to have very adjustable timescales though, I thought that with efficiency on my part I could be in Canada in 9-12 months, in reality it will have been 18 months. You’re relying on organisations like NNAS to work efficiently and that isn’t always the case. If organisations don’t meet their published timescales, be on their back pretty quickly, call them and get a person to “complain to”. This was the only reason my NNAS application got sorted so quickly and my CRNNS application was not touched in the timescales they advertised but within 2 days of me pestering, it was done and I was eligible for registration. Obviously I was always nice and professional in my contact but it does seem to make a difference if you are relentlessly engaged with these organisations.


Hello,

Sorry for such a ridiculously late reply, I had no idea I had all these replies!

I have received a comparable result from NNAS, but crnbc want me to take the full competency assessment regardless of work experience etc..., Which just does not seem feasible, especially if they are going to then tell me I have to do a bridging programme etc...
Especially sinc i had a comparable score!

I have been considering reapplying to nova scotia, do you have any further advice since your last message, is it a lot easier to get into NS, without having to do a competency assessment.

Thank you,
Nicole!

Silverdragon102 Feb 3rd 2018 5:17 pm

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CRNNS usually go by decision made if applied to another province first. Best thing you can do is contact them and ask. They are usually good at replying to questions.

niccoll Feb 3rd 2018 5:23 pm

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 

Originally Posted by Silverdragon102 (Post 12433967)
CRNNS usually go by decision made if applied to another province first. Best thing you can do is contact them and ask. They are usually good at replying to questions.

Thanks for the reply!
Do you have any idea what Ontario licensing board are like? We've looked into Ontario as well as Nova Scotia.
It would be a shame for each to province just to copy the previous province.

scilly Feb 3rd 2018 9:40 pm

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 

Originally Posted by niccoll (Post 12433973)
Thanks for the reply!
Do you have any idea what Ontario licensing board are like? We've looked into Ontario as well as Nova Scotia.
It would be a shame for each to province just to copy the previous province.



Why????

It would just mean that standards are more or less equal or equivalent across the country.

Speaking as a patient, I would much prefer having a nurse who has some knowledge of practices, drugs, etc in Canada!

Even the names of drugs can be different from what you are used to in the UK.

For example ............ Tylenol vs paracetamol

Yorkiechef Feb 3rd 2018 9:43 pm

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 

Originally Posted by scilly (Post 12434128)
Why????

It would just mean that standards are more or less equal or equivalent across the country.

Speaking as a patient, I would much prefer having a nurse who has some knowledge of practices, drugs, etc in Canada!

Even the names of drugs can be different from what you are used to in the UK.

For example ............ Tylenol vs paracetamol

Tylenol is a brand. You mean acetaminophen v paracetamol.

scilly Feb 4th 2018 3:07 am

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 

Originally Posted by Yorkiechef (Post 12434129)
Tylenol is a brand. You mean acetaminophen v paracetamol.

Are you correcting me??

I DO know that Tylenol is a brand name, but I don't use the generic .......

..... and I also know that when I say Tylenol 3 to many Brits (including nurses), they have no idea what I am talking about

I have to say co-codamol before they know what I am talking about.

If I say Tylenol, I have to add "or your paracetamol"

I haven't actually tried saying acetaminophen ............. would a Brit who has never lived over here know or would I still have to add "your paracetamol"?


From a patient's point of view that can be pretty blooming dangerous ......... worrying at the very least!


I can give you a number of other examples from my pretty wide experience of hospitals, nurses etc here and over there.

I seriously wonder whether it really is up to the patient to educate the nurse!

niccoll Feb 4th 2018 8:12 am

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 

Originally Posted by scilly (Post 12434268)
Are you correcting me??

I DO know that Tylenol is a brand name, but I don't use the generic .......

..... and I also know that when I say Tylenol 3 to many Brits (including nurses), they have no idea what I am talking about

I have to say co-codamol before they know what I am talking about.

If I say Tylenol, I have to add "or your paracetamol"

I haven't actually tried saying acetaminophen ............. would a Brit who has never lived over here know or would I still have to add "your paracetamol"?


From a patient's point of view that can be pretty blooming dangerous ......... worrying at the very least!


I can give you a number of other examples from my pretty wide experience of hospitals, nurses etc here and over there.

I seriously wonder whether it really is up to the patient to educate the nurse!

Ok. This has turned into a bit of a nurse bashing thread and has nothing to do with my the original question I asked.

You have no idea what my current knowledge of Canadian drug and general terminology is. And let's be honest, I wouldn't pay over £2000 dollars to go and be competency assessed without having the inclination to learn the Canadian terminology, that would be ridiculous!

Just because someone doesn't know what bloody Tylenol is, has no bearing on how good of a nurse they are. When you start a new nursing job, regardless of the country it is in, you have a period of time where you work with someone for example 2 weeks supernumerary where you learn these things, because moving from one area of nursing to another requires you to learn new drugs, not all drugs are used in all areas.

Thanks for the input anyway.

Silverdragon102 Feb 4th 2018 11:37 am

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 

Originally Posted by niccoll (Post 12433973)
Thanks for the reply!
Do you have any idea what Ontario licensing board are like? We've looked into Ontario as well as Nova Scotia.
It would be a shame for each to province just to copy the previous province.

Most provinces if not all will follow each other for consistency. To be honest the best answer will come from the provincial college and you could try contacting them but expect you to be told to submit application and they will then make their decision

niccoll Feb 4th 2018 12:58 pm

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 

Originally Posted by Silverdragon102 (Post 12434473)
Most provinces if not all will follow each other for consistency. To be honest the best answer will come from the provincial college and you could try contacting them but expect you to be told to submit application and they will then make their decision

Thanks for the info. I'm gonna be making a few phone calls on Monday, I just found the BC info out last week and was at work so haven't been able to contact anyone yet. Do you know how each province are aware of what another province has said?

anders101 Feb 4th 2018 2:33 pm

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:goodpost:

Originally Posted by niccoll (Post 12434368)
Ok. This has turned into a bit of a nurse bashing thread and has nothing to do with my the original question I asked.

You have no idea what my current knowledge of Canadian drug and general terminology is. And let's be honest, I wouldn't pay over £2000 dollars to go and be competency assessed without having the inclination to learn the Canadian terminology, that would be ridiculous!

Just because someone doesn't know what bloody Tylenol is, has no bearing on how good of a nurse they are. When you start a new nursing job, regardless of the country it is in, you have a period of time where you work with someone for example 2 weeks supernumerary where you learn these things, because moving from one area of nursing to another requires you to learn new drugs, not all drugs are used in all areas.

Thanks for the input anyway.

The only advice i can give you is that when I worked in NS I was on totally crappy wages (and that was the top of the pay scale) It just seemed that no matter how hard i worked I was taxed up the ying yang and there was an awful lot of 'extras taken off at source' I was pleasantly surprised to find that I am much better off in Ontario. I work part time, but earn as much as fuel time in NS. I get a 14 % vacation allowance every shift, and earn a lot more on weekends and nights. I know that housing here is more expensive, but generally even with a larger mortgage I am much better off. Good luck with wherever you decide

niccoll Feb 4th 2018 3:01 pm

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Originally Posted by anders101 (Post 12434605)
:goodpost: The only advice i can give you is that when I worked in NS I was on totally crappy wages (and that was the top of the pay scale) It just seemed that no matter how hard i worked I was taxed up the ying yang and there was an awful lot of 'extras taken off at source' I was pleasantly surprised to find that I am much better off in Ontario. I work part time, but earn as much as fuel time in NS. I get a 14 % vacation allowance every shift, and earn a lot more on weekends and nights. I know that housing here is more expensive, but generally even with a larger mortgage I am much better off. Good luck with wherever you decide

Thank you!!

Yorkiechef Feb 4th 2018 10:20 pm

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 

Originally Posted by scilly (Post 12434268)
Are you correcting me??

I DO know that Tylenol is a brand name, but I don't use the generic .......

..... and I also know that when I say Tylenol 3 to many Brits (including nurses), they have no idea what I am talking about

I have to say co-codamol before they know what I am talking about.

If I say Tylenol, I have to add "or your paracetamol"

I haven't actually tried saying acetaminophen ............. would a Brit who has never lived over here know or would I still have to add "your paracetamol"?


From a patient's point of view that can be pretty blooming dangerous ......... worrying at the very least!


I can give you a number of other examples from my pretty wide experience of hospitals, nurses etc here and over there.

I seriously wonder whether it really is up to the patient to educate the nurse!

Yes I am. In Canada, it is common practice to use brand names, it would be frowned upon in UK.

Just to take your education one step further, Tylenol 3 has 15mg of codine and is a controlled drug that is accounted for in the Cd cupboard......unlike UK.

Different jurisdiction and rules, Tylenol 2 has 8mg, care to make a guess at that...cd or not? Well? I'll let you google that........

anders101 Feb 4th 2018 10:24 pm

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 

Originally Posted by Yorkiechef (Post 12434837)
Yes I am. In Canada, it is common practice to use brand names, it would be frowned upon in UK.

Just to take your education one step further, Tylenol 3 has 15mg of codine and is a controlled drug that is accounted for in the Cd cupboard......unlike UK.

Different jurisdiction and rules, Tylenol 2 has 8mg, care to make a guess at that...cd or not? Well? I'll let you google that........

erm...almost. Tylenol 1 8 mg (over the counter)
Tylenol 2 15 mg
Tylenol 3 30 mg

Yorkiechef Feb 4th 2018 10:48 pm

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Originally Posted by anders101 (Post 12434838)
erm...almost. Tylenol 1 8 mg (over the counter)
Tylenol 2 15 mg
Tylenol 3 30 mg

Oh >snip<....you're right! Proof that we should leave this stuff to dedicated professionals. Funny.

See that is how you deal with being corrected, with humour and humility.

scilly Feb 5th 2018 12:01 am

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Originally Posted by Yorkiechef (Post 12434837)
Yes I am. In Canada, it is common practice to use brand names, it would be frowned upon in UK.

Just to take your education one step further, Tylenol 3 has 15mg of codine and is a controlled drug that is accounted for in the Cd cupboard......unlike UK.

Different jurisdiction and rules, Tylenol 2 has 8mg, care to make a guess at that...cd or not? Well? I'll let you google that........


wow


I didn't know any of that. I must be really really stupid. I wonder how I've managed to get this stage of my life without knowing it :sarcasm:




I won't post to you if you stop posting to me, enough is enough.

Yorkiechef Feb 5th 2018 2:15 am

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:thumbsup:

lauriet465 Feb 8th 2018 4:50 pm

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Hey guys...


Hope you don't mind me jumping in on this thread! I am a Scottish NICU Nurse. I am moving to Ontario with my husband in the next few months, just awaiting our PR to be accepted and completed.


I have completed NNAS and got a "non comparable" result, which is not of shock to me as I am a child branch trained nurse and worked in NICU for 10 years. I applied to CNO and my next step is to sit the CNO Jurisprudence Examination. I am currently looking at materials for studying... 3 hours and 175 questions I think it said.

Does anyone know what the next step after this is likely to be? I always thought it would be the NCLEX to test my knowledge but I keep hearing conflicting information.

Any insight would be fab...I am prepared to be told I will need to do some sort of bridging as my knowledge is paeds focused but ever hopeful I could pass NCLEX with the right study materials....

anders101 Feb 8th 2018 10:55 pm

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Originally Posted by lauriet465 (Post 12437807)
Hey guys...


Hope you don't mind me jumping in on this thread! I am a Scottish NICU Nurse. I am moving to Ontario with my husband in the next few months, just awaiting our PR to be accepted and completed.


I have completed NNAS and got a "non comparable" result, which is not of shock to me as I am a child branch trained nurse and worked in NICU for 10 years. I applied to CNO and my next step is to sit the CNO Jurisprudence Examination. I am currently looking at materials for studying... 3 hours and 175 questions I think it said.

Does anyone know what the next step after this is likely to be? I always thought it would be the NCLEX to test my knowledge but I keep hearing conflicting information.

Any insight would be fab...I am prepared to be told I will need to do some sort of bridging as my knowledge is paeds focused but ever hopeful I could pass NCLEX with the right study materials....

Hi, I cant help with insight into your bridging courses etc, however, I did sit the jurisprudence exam a few years ago. All I can say is don't bother studying for that. The CNO give you study guides before you sit. All the answers are there and it is an open book exam. The biggest thing is your skill in searching the articles at speed. I am being completely honest when I say I sat the exam with 2 friends at the table..(not nurses) and we each had a set of documents open on separate computers. We only just managed to finish it on time and it was exhausting. Some of it is common sense, but the rest you just wouldn't know without searching the phrases out in the documents. Just make sure you have a documenter friend with you and you will be fine. I needed a stiff gin after. At least you find out if you have passed within minutes of submitting your final answer. Good luck

bats Feb 9th 2018 12:28 am

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Originally Posted by lauriet465 (Post 12437807)
Hey guys...


Hope you don't mind me jumping in on this thread! I am a Scottish NICU Nurse. I am moving to Ontario with my husband in the next few months, just awaiting our PR to be accepted and completed.


I have completed NNAS and got a "non comparable" result, which is not of shock to me as I am a child branch trained nurse and worked in NICU for 10 years. I applied to CNO and my next step is to sit the CNO Jurisprudence Examination. I am currently looking at materials for studying... 3 hours and 175 questions I think it said.

Does anyone know what the next step after this is likely to be? I always thought it would be the NCLEX to test my knowledge but I keep hearing conflicting information.

Any insight would be fab...I am prepared to be told I will need to do some sort of bridging as my knowledge is paeds focused but ever hopeful I could pass NCLEX with the right study materials....

I'm sure you could. I was an xray tech until recently and help an RN friend study for her NCLEX. We went though many many of the test questions, looked at the answers. Worked out her supposedly weak areas. It's fine, no big deal.

Ridiculousprocess Feb 9th 2018 2:18 pm

Firstly don’t book anything!!!

I’m canadian and trained in uk. I’m a year and a half into the process and still no light at the end of the tunnel. The nnas is just the beginning. You see no one tells you anything about how the process really works or how much you have to do or how much it’ll cost!!! You’ll have assessments to do and they have gone up in price now the computer assessment is now $500 and sim lab is $1500. That’s just the start. It’s all about money and de-skilling good nurses.

I’ve also been told I need to do the return to practice course. I’m ok with this. Except now I’ve been told I need to be either an hca or Lpn working. Now this was never disclosed to me and the uni says I need 1600 hours before getting in the course???? Crnbc have told me this course needs to be completed in 3 years! Hmmm how am I supposed to do all this??? The whole idea was for me to become an RN again. Can anyone help

lauriet465 Feb 9th 2018 3:41 pm

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 

Originally Posted by anders101 (Post 12438064)
Hi, I cant help with insight into your bridging courses etc, however, I did sit the jurisprudence exam a few years ago. All I can say is don't bother studying for that. The CNO give you study guides before you sit. All the answers are there and it is an open book exam. The biggest thing is your skill in searching the articles at speed. I am being completely honest when I say I sat the exam with 2 friends at the table..(not nurses) and we each had a set of documents open on separate computers. We only just managed to finish it on time and it was exhausting. Some of it is common sense, but the rest you just wouldn't know without searching the phrases out in the documents. Just make sure you have a documenter friend with you and you will be fine. I needed a stiff gin after. At least you find out if you have passed within minutes of submitting your final answer. Good luck

Thanks so much for the advice, I did know it was an open book but figured I wouldn't have the time to search for answers and finish in time. I'll definitely recruit some friends to help out. Good to know the pass/fail is almost instant. So much waiting around already!


Originally Posted by bats (Post 12438094)
I'm sure you could. I was an xray tech until recently and help an RN friend study for her NCLEX. We went though many many of the test questions, looked at the answers. Worked out her supposedly weak areas. It's fine, no big deal.

I have an app on my phone that has NCLEX questions, at the moment I'm getting around 40-45% pass. Admittedly I haven't looked at it for ages but I'm hopeful with enough study I can pass it. I have a General RN nurse who could help me (although I scored 2% better in the app lol). Good to know it can be done though. Every little bit helps to try and cut down the time it will take to get registered.


Originally Posted by Ridiculousprocess (Post 12438457)
Firstly don’t book anything!!!

I’m canadian and trained in uk. I’m a year and a half into the process and still no light at the end of the tunnel. The nnas is just the beginning. You see no one tells you anything about how the process really works or how much you have to do or how much it’ll cost!!! You’ll have assessments to do and they have gone up in price now the computer assessment is now $500 and sim lab is $1500. That’s just the start. It’s all about money and de-skilling good nurses.

I’ve also been told I need to do the return to practice course. I’m ok with this. Except now I’ve been told I need to be either an hca or Lpn working. Now this was never disclosed to me and the uni says I need 1600 hours before getting in the course???? Crnbc have told me this course needs to be completed in 3 years! Hmmm how am I supposed to do all this??? The whole idea was for me to become an RN again. Can anyone help

I'm not planning to book anything until I am told to...I wouldn't risk it as I don't know what I will need to do next. I am a little frustrated that I've not been told the process but at the same time I am very open to what hoops I need to jump through. I think it seems different for everyone depending on the training they've had and Province they apply to. I'm in this for the long haul.

Is the return to practice in the UK or Canada? As long as the clinical hours are kept up then there shouldn't be a reason for RTP in the UK. I've already met my clinical hours in the UK until October 2019 so I'm not too concerned as I essentially have until October 2022 to meet my practice hours. I'm hoping to not still be trying to register in Canada in 4 years time :/
I can't speak for what happens in Canada though and why you'd need to do the return to practice if you've been studying.

Ridiculousprocess Feb 9th 2018 4:41 pm

Re: UK nurse moving to Canada
 
The return to practice is in Canada. I have my uk hours until 2019 but they don’t appear to count. The uni said specifically Lpn hca 1600 hours. Crazy yes why do a job I have no intention of staying in. The RRNP has a 300 hour placement so surely that’s good enough to evaluate my competencies. I feel the new crnbc rules system was thrown together and is only about money! It is beyond frustrating when at every turn something else is thrown at you. The process should be an open book and you should be able to see the whole process on their website. Not one step at a time. Like I said this is almost 2 years for me and $1000s out of pocket. Not to mention everyday I’m se skilling.


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