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rae Apr 20th 2009 12:41 pm

Re: uk 24th out of 26th
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 7498196)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033870/ perhaps? :confused:

Even older than me.

thats it, african queen was his best by far though.

dboy Apr 20th 2009 1:07 pm

Re: uk 24th out of 26th
 

Originally Posted by rae (Post 7498199)
thats it, african queen was his best by far though.

No it was the Caine Mutiny

rae Apr 20th 2009 1:17 pm

Re: uk 24th out of 26th
 

Originally Posted by dboy (Post 7498247)
No it was the Caine Mutiny

didn't win the oscar for that one though.

montreal mike Apr 20th 2009 1:25 pm

Re: uk 24th out of 26th
 

Originally Posted by rae (Post 7498199)
thats it, african queen was his best by far though.

my fave was casablanca

ann m Apr 20th 2009 1:26 pm

Re: uk 24th out of 26th
 

Originally Posted by rae (Post 7498186)
anyone else curious why malta is so bad, i've visited once a long time ago, seemed nice enough to me.

falcons or not - it's probably just too small to make the figures meaningful, maybe. A quick wiki search shows approx 66,000 kids under the age of 15 on the whole island.

Just a thought, anyway. Don't know how they did the survery - whether they just interview 5,000 kids in each country or a percentage, or what ...

rae Apr 20th 2009 1:39 pm

Re: uk 24th out of 26th
 

Originally Posted by ann m (Post 7498284)
falcons or not - it's probably just too small to make the figures meaningful, maybe. A quick wiki search shows approx 66,000 kids under the age of 15 on the whole island.

Just a thought, anyway. Don't know how they did the survery - whether they just interview 5,000 kids in each country or a percentage, or what ...

nicely back on track. would it not be the case though, with much fewer kids to care for, they would do a better job?

joydot Apr 20th 2009 3:01 pm

Re: uk 24th out of 26th
 
as someone who dragged 2 kiddies though uk system and hated it 90% of the time i must interject a little reality. a large part of the problems in the uk edu system are from people coming from lesser systems! its no excuse, but still, when a school has more than 100 first languages spoken by its populace it all becomes a little towering babel-ish. when the older, somewhat alcoholic nonetheless charming english matrons taught my oldest in our lovely hampshire local surrounded by english kids the results were great - she was reading and writing long before she hit school. besides, netherlands is an exception - what dont they do well besides weather???

earlytobed Apr 20th 2009 7:12 pm

Re: uk 24th out of 26th
 
Yeah right, lies damn lies and statistics springs to mind. who compiled this hogwash.

Of course, Austria scores much better than us at 11th, as they hide their kids out of the way in cellars.........

joydot Apr 20th 2009 7:30 pm

Re: uk 24th out of 26th
 
ok, i am going to be even more committal - once in the right school (first was terrible) my daughters education was better in the uk. it slays me to admit it and this is the first time i have outright said it, but nz has been painfully lacking and she has left the system after 3 years with no realistic credentials for anything outside nz which would not have happened elsewhere. makes english system look good. am going to have bad guilt dreams tonight re. parental failure.

Gremmie Apr 21st 2009 1:01 am

Re: uk 24th out of 26th
 

Originally Posted by joydot (Post 7498408)
as someone who dragged 2 kiddies though uk system and hated it 90% of the time i must interject a little reality. a large part of the problems in the uk edu system are from people coming from lesser systems! its no excuse, but still, when a school has more than 100 first languages spoken by its populace it all becomes a little towering babel-ish. when the older, somewhat alcoholic nonetheless charming english matrons taught my oldest in our lovely hampshire local surrounded by english kids the results were great - she was reading and writing long before she hit school. besides, netherlands is an exception - what dont they do well besides weather???


This applies to just about every European school aswell, my 3 are in switzerland,the multi culti is just as rampant there as any where else. I wonder tho how switzerland would have faired in this survey ?????

rae Apr 21st 2009 3:05 am

Re: uk 24th out of 26th
 

Originally Posted by joydot (Post 7498408)
as someone who dragged 2 kiddies though uk system and hated it 90% of the time i must interject a little reality. a large part of the problems in the uk edu system are from people coming from lesser systems! its no excuse, but still, when a school has more than 100 first languages spoken by its populace it all becomes a little towering babel-ish. when the older, somewhat alcoholic nonetheless charming english matrons taught my oldest in our lovely hampshire local surrounded by english kids the results were great - she was reading and writing long before she hit school. besides, netherlands is an exception - what dont they do well besides weather???

i assume that you realise this is exactly the same here, huge immigration, many different languages being spoken, there is a bit of a french bit here as well.
like it or not, its the system as a whole, not everyone is sat beside a village green watching the cricket.
surrounded by 'english' kids. i take it immigrants to the country gaining citizenship are not 'english'.

rae Apr 21st 2009 3:07 am

Re: uk 24th out of 26th
 

Originally Posted by earlytobed (Post 7498819)
Yeah right, lies damn lies and statistics springs to mind. who compiled this hogwash.

Of course, Austria scores much better than us at 11th, as they hide their kids out of the way in cellars.........

i take it you are content with the education system in the uk then.

earlytobed Apr 21st 2009 9:35 am

Re: uk 24th out of 26th
 

Originally Posted by rae (Post 7499973)
i take it you are content with the education system in the uk then.

Errrm, reasonably. My 4 year old is at his first school which I believe has a good holistic and rounded approach. My three year old is at pre-school and happy. Could it be better? Yeah I guess so. One could always argue that. Are we really worse than all the other listed nations? well I don't know but I'd guess not. Am I complacent? Possibly.

My contentious, slightly controversial point that I was attempting to make was that every country has good and bad (that includes Canada by the way).

However, I certainly feel that we in the UK are often a child-unfriendly country, and our tolerance of children can be alarmingly low. But then, nowhere's perfect.

Where I think the Uk does come out on top is in bashing itself, unlike the US and Canada, both of whom - I hugely admire by the way- will put a positive spin on everything.

Everyone I know in the US and Canada lives in the sunniest, cleanest, less crime-ridden city etc etc blah blah blah. This civic/national pride is all very commendable, and maybe we on this windswept, rain-lashed, inhospitable little lump of rock are a little cynical, bet hey! vive le difference...........

earlytobed Apr 21st 2009 9:48 am

Re: uk 24th out of 26th
 
May I just add, that I very much like what I have seen and know about Canada, and would one day like to experience living there full-time. However, I wouldn't move anywhere because I hated where I currently was, that I think would be a recipe for future problems. Everywhere has the same or similar issues if one cares to look closely enough. It may make some feel better about their own choices if they 'bash' the choice they have left behind. If that helps, then i suppose, as a coping strategy its no bad thing.

Cape Blue Apr 21st 2009 9:57 am

Re: uk 24th out of 26th
 
Got to take the report with a pinch of salt really.

Comissioned by the Child Poverty Action Group - who are hardly likely to ask questions in a pole which would lead to the response that the UK is just dandy, otherwise it would limit their raison d'etre somewhat.


The researchers assessed the countries on 43 separate measures, ranging from infant mortality and obesity to material resources - like poverty and housing.
- Basically if your kid is not dead, fat, poor or living in a tent, then the study may have little bearing on your childrens life and future in the UK.


"The UK position is particularly influenced by the high number of children living in families where no parent works. Only Lithuania and Poland do worse," said the report.
If your kid isn't living in a house where both of you are not working, then this report may not accurately reflect your situation and your kids future in the UK.


Also included were how children felt about their lives, schools and relationships.
- as the UK suffers from a very negative outlook in general, particularly perpetrated by the doom and gloom media, is it any wonder that kids are similarly infected and have a negative outlook on life?


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