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Re: uk 24th out of 26th
Originally Posted by Steve_P
(Post 7498196)
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Re: uk 24th out of 26th
Originally Posted by rae
(Post 7498199)
thats it, african queen was his best by far though.
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Re: uk 24th out of 26th
Originally Posted by dboy
(Post 7498247)
No it was the Caine Mutiny
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Re: uk 24th out of 26th
Originally Posted by rae
(Post 7498199)
thats it, african queen was his best by far though.
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Re: uk 24th out of 26th
Originally Posted by rae
(Post 7498186)
anyone else curious why malta is so bad, i've visited once a long time ago, seemed nice enough to me.
Just a thought, anyway. Don't know how they did the survery - whether they just interview 5,000 kids in each country or a percentage, or what ... |
Re: uk 24th out of 26th
Originally Posted by ann m
(Post 7498284)
falcons or not - it's probably just too small to make the figures meaningful, maybe. A quick wiki search shows approx 66,000 kids under the age of 15 on the whole island.
Just a thought, anyway. Don't know how they did the survery - whether they just interview 5,000 kids in each country or a percentage, or what ... |
Re: uk 24th out of 26th
as someone who dragged 2 kiddies though uk system and hated it 90% of the time i must interject a little reality. a large part of the problems in the uk edu system are from people coming from lesser systems! its no excuse, but still, when a school has more than 100 first languages spoken by its populace it all becomes a little towering babel-ish. when the older, somewhat alcoholic nonetheless charming english matrons taught my oldest in our lovely hampshire local surrounded by english kids the results were great - she was reading and writing long before she hit school. besides, netherlands is an exception - what dont they do well besides weather???
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Re: uk 24th out of 26th
Yeah right, lies damn lies and statistics springs to mind. who compiled this hogwash.
Of course, Austria scores much better than us at 11th, as they hide their kids out of the way in cellars......... |
Re: uk 24th out of 26th
ok, i am going to be even more committal - once in the right school (first was terrible) my daughters education was better in the uk. it slays me to admit it and this is the first time i have outright said it, but nz has been painfully lacking and she has left the system after 3 years with no realistic credentials for anything outside nz which would not have happened elsewhere. makes english system look good. am going to have bad guilt dreams tonight re. parental failure.
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Re: uk 24th out of 26th
Originally Posted by joydot
(Post 7498408)
as someone who dragged 2 kiddies though uk system and hated it 90% of the time i must interject a little reality. a large part of the problems in the uk edu system are from people coming from lesser systems! its no excuse, but still, when a school has more than 100 first languages spoken by its populace it all becomes a little towering babel-ish. when the older, somewhat alcoholic nonetheless charming english matrons taught my oldest in our lovely hampshire local surrounded by english kids the results were great - she was reading and writing long before she hit school. besides, netherlands is an exception - what dont they do well besides weather???
This applies to just about every European school aswell, my 3 are in switzerland,the multi culti is just as rampant there as any where else. I wonder tho how switzerland would have faired in this survey ????? |
Re: uk 24th out of 26th
Originally Posted by joydot
(Post 7498408)
as someone who dragged 2 kiddies though uk system and hated it 90% of the time i must interject a little reality. a large part of the problems in the uk edu system are from people coming from lesser systems! its no excuse, but still, when a school has more than 100 first languages spoken by its populace it all becomes a little towering babel-ish. when the older, somewhat alcoholic nonetheless charming english matrons taught my oldest in our lovely hampshire local surrounded by english kids the results were great - she was reading and writing long before she hit school. besides, netherlands is an exception - what dont they do well besides weather???
like it or not, its the system as a whole, not everyone is sat beside a village green watching the cricket. surrounded by 'english' kids. i take it immigrants to the country gaining citizenship are not 'english'. |
Re: uk 24th out of 26th
Originally Posted by earlytobed
(Post 7498819)
Yeah right, lies damn lies and statistics springs to mind. who compiled this hogwash.
Of course, Austria scores much better than us at 11th, as they hide their kids out of the way in cellars......... |
Re: uk 24th out of 26th
Originally Posted by rae
(Post 7499973)
i take it you are content with the education system in the uk then.
My contentious, slightly controversial point that I was attempting to make was that every country has good and bad (that includes Canada by the way). However, I certainly feel that we in the UK are often a child-unfriendly country, and our tolerance of children can be alarmingly low. But then, nowhere's perfect. Where I think the Uk does come out on top is in bashing itself, unlike the US and Canada, both of whom - I hugely admire by the way- will put a positive spin on everything. Everyone I know in the US and Canada lives in the sunniest, cleanest, less crime-ridden city etc etc blah blah blah. This civic/national pride is all very commendable, and maybe we on this windswept, rain-lashed, inhospitable little lump of rock are a little cynical, bet hey! vive le difference........... |
Re: uk 24th out of 26th
May I just add, that I very much like what I have seen and know about Canada, and would one day like to experience living there full-time. However, I wouldn't move anywhere because I hated where I currently was, that I think would be a recipe for future problems. Everywhere has the same or similar issues if one cares to look closely enough. It may make some feel better about their own choices if they 'bash' the choice they have left behind. If that helps, then i suppose, as a coping strategy its no bad thing.
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Re: uk 24th out of 26th
Got to take the report with a pinch of salt really.
Comissioned by the Child Poverty Action Group - who are hardly likely to ask questions in a pole which would lead to the response that the UK is just dandy, otherwise it would limit their raison d'etre somewhat. The researchers assessed the countries on 43 separate measures, ranging from infant mortality and obesity to material resources - like poverty and housing. "The UK position is particularly influenced by the high number of children living in families where no parent works. Only Lithuania and Poland do worse," said the report. Also included were how children felt about their lives, schools and relationships. |
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