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Old Dec 8th 2011, 12:11 am
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When I activated my PR, I did this by walking across the bridge at Niagara, doing the US flagpole thing and then walking back to Canada.

A friend came along and wandered across the bridge to look at the scenery while I was in the US office. When we headed back to the Canadian side she was asked for ID and whatnot as per the usual process. She's Australian, in Canada on a working holiday visa, no ID whatsoever. She was allowed back in with no fuss, after explaining that she just wanted to go for a walk.
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Originally Posted by Souvy
That's one to dine out on.

Things do change. I remember going on a camping trip. I got from Brighton and Brittany and back on ferries and trains without ever having to show my ticket or passport.
Two "entering Canada inadequately documented" stories. Both post-911.

I was about to get off the plane when the flight attendant apologized "we ran out of room in the closet and had to check your coat". I thought nothing of until I arrived at immigration with no coat, no wallet and so no documents at all. I suggested to the clerk that he could confirm my residency by checking for my unpaid traffic tickets. I don't know if that's what he did but he let me through, perhaps because fetching my alleged coat would have meant dealing with the ground staff and no one wants to deal with the ground staff at YYZ.

I went to a Bills game in a van, a cargo van, big heap of half drunk bodies in the back. "Everyone Canadian?" asked the officer "Yes" said the driver. There was some bother establishing that the driver was reasonably sober and we were sent on our way.

Before 911 YYZ was fabulously lax. If I didn't have a bag I'd nip through a departure gate the wrong way to save bothering with immigration. Coming from a country where bags left on the tube were at risk of being blown up by robot, airports in the US and Canada amazed me. Now, of course, they've swung the other way, lots of fuss for not much more safety.
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Two "entering Canada inadequately documented" stories. Both post-911.

I was about to get off the plane when the flight attendant apologized "we ran out of room in the closet and had to check your coat". I thought nothing of until I arrived at immigration with no coat, no wallet and so no documents at all. I suggested to the clerk that he could confirm my residency by checking for my unpaid traffic tickets. I don't know if that's what he did but he let me through, perhaps because fetching my alleged coat would have meant dealing with the ground staff and no one wants to deal with the ground staff at YYZ.

I went to a Bills game in a van, a cargo van, big heap of half drunk bodies in the back. "Everyone Canadian?" asked the officer "Yes" said the driver. There was some bother establishing that the driver was reasonably sober and we were sent on our way.

Before 911 YYZ was fabulously lax. If I didn't have a bag I'd nip through a departure gate the wrong way to save bothering with immigration. Coming from a country where bags left on the tube were at risk of being blown up by robot, airports in the US and Canada amazed me. Now, of course, they've swung the other way, lots of fuss for not much more safety.
Three pre-911 stories. They probably wouldn't happen now and they probably shouldn't have happened then.

A cocked-up connection meant that a colleague and I missed on onward flight. Our luggage didn't. This was in Saudi Arabia, during the first Gulf War.

On overbooked BA flight from LHR to Vienna saw me travel in the cockpit. I bet that wouldn't happen now.

Checking-in in Kuwait, I found I needed some cash. That was to be found on a different floor. An official told me to just leave my luggage on the floor and come back for it later. That would spark an evacuation these days.

I've just thought of a fourth.

A trip from Lahore to Ankara saw me in Karachi in the middle of the night. I couldn't check-in or stash my luggage and the only place to get anything to eat or drink was airside. I wandered back and forth several times without once being challenged and without lugging my baggage.
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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
A couple of years ago, we were driving towards Tsawwassen ferry terminal outside Vancouver when I took a wrong turn and ended up, unwittingly, at the US border (Point Roberts - surely the most pointless bit of the entire USA).

As we had not intended to enter the US while on holiday, we didn't have our passports with us, and my wife didn't even have her driving licence with her. Anyway, we were suddenly stuck in a jersey-barrier lane that we couldn't get out of as we approached the border point, before doing a U turn and heading back towards the immigration booths.

"Passports", grunted the immigration clerk. "Umm, we don't have any. We went through by mistake."

"You must have passports, you've just come from America."

"No we haven't, I've just come from the other side of your booth 30 seconds ago."

Anyway, he made a great show of checking my driving licence, chastising my wife for not having hers, and eventually made sure we knew what an enormous favour he was doing by letting us "back in" to Canada.

That must happen a dozen times a day or more at that border point. I suppose immigration clerks have to make entertainment for themselves somehow. "Hey dude, look here comes another idiot. Quick, put on your Aviators and your Tough Guy voice..."
During a brief stint in Vancouver about 20 years ago, my wife and I drove down to Point Roberts just out of curiosity. Very unusual place. Like Alaska, it has no land border with the rest of the US - only Canada. We went to a bar there and chatted with some of the locals - there was also a sizeable contingent from the Vancouver area. Canadians frequently went there to get cheap gas and groceries. Many also used the postal service there as it was handy for sending/receiving US mail. There are some interesting facts about the place on wikipedia. Apparently it's a good place for whale watching although we didn't stay long enough to see any.
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An acquaintance used to live in Point Roberts and work in Richmond. Pre 9/11 the officer on the Canadian side would often sit back in his chair and rest his feet on the front of the booth. The convention was that if his feet pointed towards Canada you just drove straight through. It the feet were upright or pointed toward the US you stopped.
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An acquaintance used to live in Point Roberts and work in Richmond. Pre 9/11 the officer on the Canadian side would often sit back in his chair and rest his feet on the front of the booth. The convention was that if his feet pointed towards Canada you just drove straight through. It the feet were upright or pointed toward the US you stopped.
I read something somewhere about some Vancouver Canucks hockey players (e.g. Alexander Mogilny and Pavel Bure) living there for tax purposes and to satisfy requirements for US residency/citizenship.
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Apropos to nothing, but Air Canada at New Orleans today didn't ask for my PR card. All they were interested in was a passport. In contrast to a few weeks ago when I re-entered the country at YYZ I breezed through immigration with no silly questions.
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Sadly though I was waved right through
Well they were letting in Whitey Bulger for many years, apparently he went to Tijuana to get his prescriptions filled!
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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
A couple of years ago, we were driving towards Tsawwassen ferry terminal outside Vancouver when I took a wrong turn and ended up, unwittingly, at the US border (Point Roberts - surely the most pointless bit of the entire USA).

As we had not intended to enter the US while on holiday, we didn't have our passports with us, and my wife didn't even have her driving licence with her. Anyway, we were suddenly stuck in a jersey-barrier lane that we couldn't get out of as we approached the border point, before doing a U turn and heading back towards the immigration booths.
Grenade in vehicle at border not real
'It might be a training' weapon, source says

By MIKE BARBER
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It took more than 24 hours and an international investigation by Canadian and U.S. civilian and military authorities.

But by yesterday afternoon federal investigators could say that a hand grenade found Monday in the glove compartment of an American woman's vehicle crossing into Canada near Blaine was not real.

"We now believe it might be a training grenade," a federal criminal justice source told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer yesterday. "When you throw them they go 'pop' like a firecracker to simulate combat" instead of a concussive explosion of deadly shrapnel from a fragmentation grenade, the source said.

While definitive word was not returned from the Canadian lab inspecting the grenade yesterday afternoon, "all agencies involved think it is a training grenade," the source said. "There is no indication that it was terrorism or that she planned to blow anything up."

The 28-year-old woman, believed to be the wife of a Fort Lewis soldier, was not arrested, but neither she nor her husband is in the clear, authorities said. She was driving a Ford Explorer with Texas plates.

"U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, along with the FBI, are following up to determine if there are violations to federal law," said Mike Milne, regional Homeland Security Department spokesman.

Military police at Fort Lewis yesterday also were trying to account for how a training grenade was transported off a military base -- either here on in Texas. Munitions of any kind are strictly forbidden from being taken off any base, an Army spokesman said.

The woman actually was on her way from Houston to Vancouver, Wash. Authorities believe she was trying to meet up with her husband at Fort Lewis. Unfamiliar with the area, she wound up 250 miles north in Blaine at the border crossing to Vancouver, B.C., authorities said.

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But the incident closed the Peace Arch border crossing, which 8 million people use annually, between 1 and 2 p.m.

Canadian authorities did not describe the device examined by the RCMP's explosives-disposal unit. The U.S. military, however, has used a blue, round M69 training grenade that emits a popping noise and white smoke when tossed, but which can be reused by replacing the fuse assembly.
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An update...

I became a Canadian citizen on Tuesday afternoon & flew to London that night.
On my return today, AC didn't ask for a PR card & were perfectly happy for me to board a return flight to Canada on my British passport. The CBSA officer at this end did not bat an eyelid on entering the company on a British passport & citizenship card. She was pleasant, and the pound of Stilton I brought back (duly declared) was not a problem either.

I will however get a Canadian pp prior to travelling again.
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She was pleasant, and the pound of Stilton I brought back (duly declared) was not a problem either.
Of course the question of why CBSA should have any interest whatsoever in your pound of Stilton remains.

I kind of think of it as akin to the Job Creation scheme.
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Of course the question of why CBSA should have any interest whatsoever in your pound of Stilton remains.

I kind of think of it as akin to the Job Creation scheme.
Who wouldn't have an interest in 1lb of stilton? If I was the immigration person I've have... er... confiscated it.
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Of course the question of why CBSA should have any interest whatsoever in your pound of Stilton remains.

I kind of think of it as akin to the Job Creation scheme.
The interest in what I am bringing into the country I find much more acceptable than the third degree on what I've been doing out of Canada!
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Of course the question of why CBSA should have any interest whatsoever in your pound of Stilton remains.

I kind of think of it as akin to the Job Creation scheme.
You really must have had a bad experience with CBSA
We are merely acting on behalf of CFIA and their legislation and regulations regarding travellers bringing in cheese. Maybe this link will satisy your curiosity
http://www.inspection.gc.ca/food/dai.../1300214161699

Its ok we understand your frustrations and I guess we should just allow travellers to bring in any products that could damage or cause havoc in the Agri food services industry such a BSE etc etc
We also appreciate the fact that with regulations like these and all the other federally regulated areas Transport Canada, Health Canada, etc etc they keep us in employment and serve its citizens by keeping the BAD stuff out and letting in the GOOD stuff.
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Who wouldn't have an interest in 1lb of stilton? If I was the immigration person I've have... er... confiscated it.
Quite. It was an impulse purchase in Marks and Sparks. 1lb of Stilton half price at 8 quid. The same amount would cost me $80 in Nfld!

I must admit I'd never considered brining back cheese before - automatically assuming it would be verboten. But I read a post/thread somewhere this year that indicated otherwise. It'll be something I'll be doing again.

I'm not sure where our CBSA friend works as he sensibly doesn't share that with us. () but I find the CBSA staff at St John's & Halifax, friendly & helpful. Some at Pearson clearly have decided to model their attitude from their colleagues at the US CBP though!
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