el_richo

No dogs allowed in YVR so they'd be pretty noticeable if they were loitering by the baggage claim area

cheeky_monkey

what about through gritted teeth is that accpetable?..bit like you do at weddings etc

MarylandNed

Yep - there's no guarantee that a citizenship card will be recognized outside of Canada. A Canadian passport is the only internationally recognized proof of Canadian citizenship. Whether you can use anything else (e.g. a UK passport along with a citizenship card) is completely at the mercy of a third party's policy or interpretation. In practice, lots of people can do that without any trouble - but it's not a given right.

http://www.voyage.gc.ca/publications...zenship-en.pdf

"Always use your Canadian passport if possible, especially when entering the country of your second citizenship. Note that you cannot use a Certificate of Canadian Citizenship instead of a Canadian passport to travel abroad. A Certificate of Canadian Citizenship is not a travel document. A Canadian passport is the only reliable and universally accepted travel and identification document available to Canadians for the purpose of international travel."

Bold and underlines are mine.

PMM

Hi

He keeps his COPR in a safe place, because he will need it for OAP and CPP when he applies. Not for Immigration.

Former Lancastrian

That is very useful information now I guess I should try to figure out where my IMM1000 is as I was unaware of the OAP & CPP requirements.
Thank you.

MarylandNed

You can get a replacement if you've lost it:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...ides/5545E.asp

I shredded mine years ago as I didn't think I'd need it anymore!

Alan2005

I know that the COPR should be kept, but in this day and age, there really should be no need to keep a crappy dot matrix printout of information they already have to claim your pension. It's a very odd requirement if you ask me.

JonboyE

I'm rather glad the government does not have one all encompassing data base.

Alan2005

Me too, but I don't see what that has to do with me keeping a copy of the COPR for my pension. The government is quite happy to take my CPP payments without it.

Almost Canadian

My COPR was taken from me at my citizenship test

JonboyE

OAS is based on the number of years you have been resident in Canada. I guess the record of landing is as good as any document to prove when you first became resident.

I wish they told us at the time. I only found out when someone I know applied for his pension and ended up having to get a duplicate from CIC.

Novocastrian

I agree with Alan on this. Occasionally (perhaps only when you get to my advanced state of decrepitness), the CPP send a summary of my CPP payments from the age of 18. They seem perfectly able to note that I first paid in in 1982 and subsequently took an eight year break to go to Germany, returning in 1993. The purpose of this is to inform me of my projected CPP when I become 65.

It's a derisory amount, but I doubt they need my COPR to pay it out.

acer rose

With over 40 origins represented in the room we as a group of imminent citizens made a game attempt at doing the oath in English and French. Likewise, it wasn't pretty though.

So if you have problems with the airline at the airport before boarding why not just offer to buy a fully refundable return segment on the spot. I'm guessing their main concern is having to pay for returning an inadmissible passenger to their point of origin.

MarylandNed

Totally agree. Government agencies at all levels have very odd requirements.

My daughter recently moved to Ontario to attend university. She tried to apply for an OHIP card but didn't yet have anything on their list of things that prove residence address. They wouldn't accept a letter from the university stating that she is enrolled in courses and confirming her residence address on campus. In the end she went to Service Ontario to apply for one of the new Ontario Photo ID cards. That's acceptable proof of residence address even though you don't actually have to provide proof of residence address to get one! They simply believe whatever address you give them. She can then use the Ontario Photo ID card to apply for the OHIP card! When I asked why this works I was told that they mail the Ontario Photo ID card to the address you give them so you must be there if you want to receive it. When I pointed out that the same concept could apply to the OHIP card, they had no answer!

JonboyE

All your CPP contribution record shows is the time you were in pensionable employment n Canada. What about someone who has not worked? I have a client who "retired" this year. She became a PR in 1980 and was a stay-at-home mum then the payout from a life assurance policy meant that she has been able to get by up till now.

She has to prove somehow the date she became resident in order to receive Old Age Security. What better than her ROL?