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Old Feb 14th 2024, 12:18 am
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I have a couple of defined contribution workplace pensions from my past UK employers. For one of them I'm not really happy with the performance and I'd like to move it away from Scottish Widows. Now that I am tax resident in Canada, can I transfer that Scottish Widows pension to another UK pension (probably a SIPP) without creating any tax problems here? Obviously I don't want to end up paying capital gains tax or something like that just to do the transfer.
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Old Feb 14th 2024, 12:30 am
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I have a couple of defined contribution workplace pensions from my past UK employers. For one of them I'm not really happy with the performance and I'd like to move it away from Scottish Widows. Now that I am tax resident in Canada, can I transfer that Scottish Widows pension to another UK pension (probably a SIPP) without creating any tax problems here? Obviously I don't want to end up paying capital gains tax or something like that just to do the transfer.
Second one about SIPPs today! A SIPP does not meet the definition of a pension fund in Canadian law so the CRA treat it just like any ordinary savings and investment account. If you move funds from a recognized pension fund to a SIPP the CRA taxes it like pension income. Depending on your province and other income, you could lose up to half in tax. Any income and gains on what is left will also be taxed in Canada. Not a good idea.
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Old Feb 14th 2024, 1:58 am
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Default Re: Transferring UK workplace pension to another UK pension scheme

Thanks for your prompt reply.

That's no good then. I'm not sure if this is even possible now, but if I were to transfer from one ex-employer workplace pension scheme to another ex-employer workplace pension scheme, would that avoid this problem?
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In theory, yes.

Canadian pension funds have a protocol that allows them to transfer money from one fund to another. They report the transfer to the CRA. You also have to report the withdrawal from the paying pension fund as income on your tax return but the receiving pension fund will give you a tax slip that enables you to have an offsetting deduction. No net tax.

Transferring from one workplace pension to another workplace pension should not be a taxable event in the spirit of Canadian law. I cannot be sure that the UK pension funds will issue paperwork that will satisfy Canadian tax authorities (though I may be wrong). This leaves you with two options:
  • show the income inclusion and offsetting deduction on your tax return, and trust whatever paperwork the UK pension funds supply will satisfy the CRA . There is a chance the CRA will initially assess the income inclusion but deny the offsetting deduction.
  • ignore the transaction on your Canadian tax return. Ethically this is OK. Legally it is not, as you understate your income. I don't think "what they don't know won't harm them," is a sound defensive strategy.
I think you need proper professional advice, especially if the amount involved is substantial. It will be expensive, but worth it for peace of mind. IMHO.
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