traffic in canada
Sep 16th 2002, 6:30 pm
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traffic in canada
I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of the reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic. Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a standstill mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of the wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion. Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
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Sep 16th 2002, 7:38 pm
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Tom Masters <[email protected]> wrote:
>I was under the impression that because of the
>wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
>Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
Believe it or not, Canada is a heterogeneous place, and traffic is
not constant across the entire country.
What part of Canada specifically are you wondering about the
traffic in?
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>I was under the impression that because of the
>wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
>Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
Believe it or not, Canada is a heterogeneous place, and traffic is
not constant across the entire country.
What part of Canada specifically are you wondering about the
traffic in?
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Sep 16th 2002, 8:12 pm
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Tom Masters wrote:
> I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily
> commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of the
> reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic.
> Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a standstill
> mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of the
> wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
> Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
I don't know of Canada but here in the US traffic is horrific in all metro
areas. Despite they have much broader roads here they don't have any hint
of urbananization in the sense you have it in Europe and it's low building
sprawling allover the place.. Public "transportation" is a real joke and
people relay on cars even to the grocery store.. Really hope it's different
in Canada.
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> I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily
> commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of the
> reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic.
> Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a standstill
> mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of the
> wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
> Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
I don't know of Canada but here in the US traffic is horrific in all metro
areas. Despite they have much broader roads here they don't have any hint
of urbananization in the sense you have it in Europe and it's low building
sprawling allover the place.. Public "transportation" is a real joke and
people relay on cars even to the grocery store.. Really hope it's different
in Canada.
> Tom
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Sep 16th 2002, 8:19 pm
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Tom Masters wrote:
> I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily
> commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of the
> reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic.
> Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a standstill
> mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of the
> wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
> Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
> Tom
It depends on where you go in Canada. If you're in Toronto and are
commuting on the 401, then it's like being by the M25. On the other
hand if you're in Ottawa, then it's a real breeze ... you can normally
cross the city from far west to far east in about 30 minutes.
Driving here is far more relaxed, even in traffic jams (automatic
trannies help there a lot), but it tends to be far less agressive too.
Stuart
> I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily
> commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of the
> reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic.
> Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a standstill
> mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of the
> wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
> Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
> Tom
It depends on where you go in Canada. If you're in Toronto and are
commuting on the 401, then it's like being by the M25. On the other
hand if you're in Ottawa, then it's a real breeze ... you can normally
cross the city from far west to far east in about 30 minutes.
Driving here is far more relaxed, even in traffic jams (automatic
trannies help there a lot), but it tends to be far less agressive too.
Stuart
Sep 16th 2002, 9:04 pm
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I lived next door to the M4 for 5 years and I can tell you that the traffic in Calgary is NOTHING like that! Sure you get traffic jams and some days it can be hard going getting to work but you get that in any big city. For me the big bonus is that the public transport is so much better (in the city that is - out in the country public transport doesn't exist).
Sep 16th 2002, 10:09 pm
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Originally posted by Drew Hamilton:
Tom Masters <[email protected]> wrote:
>I was under the impression that because of the
>wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
>Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
Believe it or not, Canada is a heterogeneous place, and traffic is
not constant across the entire country.
What part of Canada specifically are you wondering about the
traffic in?
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Tom Masters <[email protected]> wrote:
>I was under the impression that because of the
>wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
>Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
Believe it or not, Canada is a heterogeneous place, and traffic is
not constant across the entire country.
What part of Canada specifically are you wondering about the
traffic in?
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Sep 17th 2002, 12:07 am
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Re: traffic in canada
Originally posted by Tom Masters:
We are thinking about moving to either the Hamilton/Burlington area or London.
We are thinking about moving to either the Hamilton/Burlington area or London.
Sep 17th 2002, 12:21 am
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It completely depends on where you are. If you are for example in downtown
toronto or on one of the main highways like the 401, 400, 404 at rush hour
its as bad as the UK. standing traffic one huge parking lot. but that is the
same everywhere in the world. however Torontos metro system subway stretcars
etc are far superior to those in London.
If you are driving in the suburban towns then it is much nicer and more
relaxed than the UK. when i am driving in Canada in the suburban towns its
muc more relaxed. as you say the roads are a lot bigger and more space,
slower traffic. however peopel seem to be generaly not as well dicipplined
as the UK so that is something to watch out for, no such thing as lane
dicipline hehe peopel over take under take whatever.
There is a lot more space though, even when stuck in traffic you dont feel
as hemmed in. and once you are out of town its huge striagh empty roads.
Unless of course you are going to a tourist popular destination liek say
cottage country on Canada day long weekend hehe.
plu smost cars are automatic so that kind amakes for a more relaxed driving
style.
its not as interesting, nothing like whizzing down tiny country lanes in
england with 60mph speed limits.
however i found driving in Canada, outside the city, much more relaxing and
i was driving on the dam,ned wrong side of the road hehe.
"Tom Masters" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily
> commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of the
> reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic.
> Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a standstill
> mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of the
> wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
> Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
> Tom
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toronto or on one of the main highways like the 401, 400, 404 at rush hour
its as bad as the UK. standing traffic one huge parking lot. but that is the
same everywhere in the world. however Torontos metro system subway stretcars
etc are far superior to those in London.
If you are driving in the suburban towns then it is much nicer and more
relaxed than the UK. when i am driving in Canada in the suburban towns its
muc more relaxed. as you say the roads are a lot bigger and more space,
slower traffic. however peopel seem to be generaly not as well dicipplined
as the UK so that is something to watch out for, no such thing as lane
dicipline hehe peopel over take under take whatever.
There is a lot more space though, even when stuck in traffic you dont feel
as hemmed in. and once you are out of town its huge striagh empty roads.
Unless of course you are going to a tourist popular destination liek say
cottage country on Canada day long weekend hehe.
plu smost cars are automatic so that kind amakes for a more relaxed driving
style.
its not as interesting, nothing like whizzing down tiny country lanes in
england with 60mph speed limits.
however i found driving in Canada, outside the city, much more relaxing and
i was driving on the dam,ned wrong side of the road hehe.
"Tom Masters" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily
> commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of the
> reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic.
> Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a standstill
> mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of the
> wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
> Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
> Tom
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Sep 17th 2002, 12:52 am
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They have subways in TO so if you hate traffic you have an alternative.
Sep 17th 2002, 5:38 am
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Beat this - I live in east London (UK) i work exactly 12 miles from work - i
have to allow 1.5 hours for the commute - else I will be late. That works
out at 8 mph. Could almost walk it quicker. And before some smart guy
mentions the underground - yes its great if your journey is in or out of
London but sucks for cross town journeys. Tried bikes - but I really do
wish to live to a ripe old age.
just my 2 cents.
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> It completely depends on where you are. If you are for example in downtown
> toronto or on one of the main highways like the 401, 400, 404 at rush hour
> its as bad as the UK. standing traffic one huge parking lot. but that is
the
> same everywhere in the world. however Torontos metro system subway
stretcars
> etc are far superior to those in London.
> If you are driving in the suburban towns then it is much nicer and more
> relaxed than the UK. when i am driving in Canada in the suburban towns its
> muc more relaxed. as you say the roads are a lot bigger and more space,
> slower traffic. however peopel seem to be generaly not as well dicipplined
> as the UK so that is something to watch out for, no such thing as lane
> dicipline hehe peopel over take under take whatever.
> There is a lot more space though, even when stuck in traffic you dont feel
> as hemmed in. and once you are out of town its huge striagh empty roads.
> Unless of course you are going to a tourist popular destination liek say
> cottage country on Canada day long weekend hehe.
> plu smost cars are automatic so that kind amakes for a more relaxed
driving
> style.
> its not as interesting, nothing like whizzing down tiny country lanes in
> england with 60mph speed limits.
> however i found driving in Canada, outside the city, much more relaxing
and
> i was driving on the dam,ned wrong side of the road hehe.
> "Tom Masters" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:416722.1032201015@britishexpa-
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> >
> > I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily
> > commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of the
> > reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic.
> > Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a standstill
> > mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of the
> > wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
> > Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
> >
> > Tom
> >
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have to allow 1.5 hours for the commute - else I will be late. That works
out at 8 mph. Could almost walk it quicker. And before some smart guy
mentions the underground - yes its great if your journey is in or out of
London but sucks for cross town journeys. Tried bikes - but I really do
wish to live to a ripe old age.
just my 2 cents.
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> It completely depends on where you are. If you are for example in downtown
> toronto or on one of the main highways like the 401, 400, 404 at rush hour
> its as bad as the UK. standing traffic one huge parking lot. but that is
the
> same everywhere in the world. however Torontos metro system subway
stretcars
> etc are far superior to those in London.
> If you are driving in the suburban towns then it is much nicer and more
> relaxed than the UK. when i am driving in Canada in the suburban towns its
> muc more relaxed. as you say the roads are a lot bigger and more space,
> slower traffic. however peopel seem to be generaly not as well dicipplined
> as the UK so that is something to watch out for, no such thing as lane
> dicipline hehe peopel over take under take whatever.
> There is a lot more space though, even when stuck in traffic you dont feel
> as hemmed in. and once you are out of town its huge striagh empty roads.
> Unless of course you are going to a tourist popular destination liek say
> cottage country on Canada day long weekend hehe.
> plu smost cars are automatic so that kind amakes for a more relaxed
driving
> style.
> its not as interesting, nothing like whizzing down tiny country lanes in
> england with 60mph speed limits.
> however i found driving in Canada, outside the city, much more relaxing
and
> i was driving on the dam,ned wrong side of the road hehe.
> "Tom Masters" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:416722.1032201015@britishexpa-
> ts.com ...
> >
> > I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily
> > commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of the
> > reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic.
> > Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a standstill
> > mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of the
> > wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
> > Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
> >
> > Tom
> >
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Sep 17th 2002, 2:50 pm
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That reminds me of trying to get to university when i lived in Manchester. I
only lived 3 miles from the university and you could get their via the one
main road that ran there which was the main commute route in. It wasa
ridiculous road. You could walk/cycle when it was nice weather but being
manchester it rained almost everyday and 3 miles in the rain is no fun,
especially not watching yoru back the whole way.
The bus service was amusing, youc ouldnt sya there were no buses because at
least count there were something like 60 different bus routes running down
that road. Throw in that MAnchester has the largest student population in
Europe as there are 3 universities and a music college all within a walk of
each other, then they lay on extra buses for the morning rush hour commute.
Getting a bus was never a problem, you didnt have to wait, and there was
always at least 2-3 buses at any bus stop. The problem was there were too
many buses. you could walk faster than the queue of buses. On day i walked
and there was a continuous line of buses from my house, all 3 miles down the
road to the university. So the cars could forget it, driving it was worse as
at least the buses had bus lanes.
So it could take 45 minutes on a bus to get 3 miles down a road.
crazy.
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> Beat this - I live in east London (UK) i work exactly 12 miles from work -
i
> have to allow 1.5 hours for the commute - else I will be late. That works
> out at 8 mph. Could almost walk it quicker. And before some smart guy
> mentions the underground - yes its great if your journey is in or out of
> London but sucks for cross town journeys. Tried bikes - but I really do
> wish to live to a ripe old age.
> just my 2 cents.
> "The Wizzard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:eAuh9.53989$rd-
> [email protected] ...
> >
> > It completely depends on where you are. If you are for example in
downtown
> > toronto or on one of the main highways like the 401, 400, 404 at rush
hour
> > its as bad as the UK. standing traffic one huge parking lot. but that is
> the
> > same everywhere in the world. however Torontos metro system subway
> stretcars
> > etc are far superior to those in London.
> > If you are driving in the suburban towns then it is much nicer and more
> > relaxed than the UK. when i am driving in Canada in the suburban towns
its
> > muc more relaxed. as you say the roads are a lot bigger and more space,
> > slower traffic. however peopel seem to be generaly not as well
dicipplined
> > as the UK so that is something to watch out for, no such thing as lane
> > dicipline hehe peopel over take under take whatever.
> > There is a lot more space though, even when stuck in traffic you dont
feel
> > as hemmed in. and once you are out of town its huge striagh empty roads.
> > Unless of course you are going to a tourist popular destination liek say
> > cottage country on Canada day long weekend hehe.
> > plu smost cars are automatic so that kind amakes for a more relaxed
> driving
> > style.
> > its not as interesting, nothing like whizzing down tiny country lanes in
> > england with 60mph speed limits.
> > however i found driving in Canada, outside the city, much more relaxing
> and
> > i was driving on the dam,ned wrong side of the road hehe.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Tom Masters" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:416722.1032201015@britishex-
> > pats.com ...
> > >
> > > I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily
> > > commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of
the
> > > reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic.
> > > Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a
standstill
> > > mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of
the
> > > wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic
congestion.
> > > Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
> >
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only lived 3 miles from the university and you could get their via the one
main road that ran there which was the main commute route in. It wasa
ridiculous road. You could walk/cycle when it was nice weather but being
manchester it rained almost everyday and 3 miles in the rain is no fun,
especially not watching yoru back the whole way.
The bus service was amusing, youc ouldnt sya there were no buses because at
least count there were something like 60 different bus routes running down
that road. Throw in that MAnchester has the largest student population in
Europe as there are 3 universities and a music college all within a walk of
each other, then they lay on extra buses for the morning rush hour commute.
Getting a bus was never a problem, you didnt have to wait, and there was
always at least 2-3 buses at any bus stop. The problem was there were too
many buses. you could walk faster than the queue of buses. On day i walked
and there was a continuous line of buses from my house, all 3 miles down the
road to the university. So the cars could forget it, driving it was worse as
at least the buses had bus lanes.
So it could take 45 minutes on a bus to get 3 miles down a road.
crazy.
"Canuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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m...
> Beat this - I live in east London (UK) i work exactly 12 miles from work -
i
> have to allow 1.5 hours for the commute - else I will be late. That works
> out at 8 mph. Could almost walk it quicker. And before some smart guy
> mentions the underground - yes its great if your journey is in or out of
> London but sucks for cross town journeys. Tried bikes - but I really do
> wish to live to a ripe old age.
> just my 2 cents.
> "The Wizzard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:eAuh9.53989$rd-
> [email protected] ...
> >
> > It completely depends on where you are. If you are for example in
downtown
> > toronto or on one of the main highways like the 401, 400, 404 at rush
hour
> > its as bad as the UK. standing traffic one huge parking lot. but that is
> the
> > same everywhere in the world. however Torontos metro system subway
> stretcars
> > etc are far superior to those in London.
> > If you are driving in the suburban towns then it is much nicer and more
> > relaxed than the UK. when i am driving in Canada in the suburban towns
its
> > muc more relaxed. as you say the roads are a lot bigger and more space,
> > slower traffic. however peopel seem to be generaly not as well
dicipplined
> > as the UK so that is something to watch out for, no such thing as lane
> > dicipline hehe peopel over take under take whatever.
> > There is a lot more space though, even when stuck in traffic you dont
feel
> > as hemmed in. and once you are out of town its huge striagh empty roads.
> > Unless of course you are going to a tourist popular destination liek say
> > cottage country on Canada day long weekend hehe.
> > plu smost cars are automatic so that kind amakes for a more relaxed
> driving
> > style.
> > its not as interesting, nothing like whizzing down tiny country lanes in
> > england with 60mph speed limits.
> > however i found driving in Canada, outside the city, much more relaxing
> and
> > i was driving on the dam,ned wrong side of the road hehe.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Tom Masters" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:416722.1032201015@britishex-
> > pats.com ...
> > >
> > > I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily
> > > commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of
the
> > > reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic.
> > > Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a
standstill
> > > mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of
the
> > > wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic
congestion.
> > > Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
> >
> >
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Sep 17th 2002, 10:33 pm
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>Beat this - I live in east London (UK) i work exactly 12 miles from work - i
>have to allow 1.5 hours for the commute - else I will be late. That
You can beat that on a bike. get one!
>have to allow 1.5 hours for the commute - else I will be late. That
You can beat that on a bike. get one!
Sep 18th 2002, 5:26 pm
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People in Ontario have no idea what traffic congestion is really like. They
think the QEW is bad @ the Ford plant in Oakville... try the A40 into London
on a typical Sunday afternoon, nevermind Monday-Friday rush hour!
BTW. Hamilton is a smelly dump. Go somewhere else!
Signed, ex-Hamiltonian.
"Tom Masters" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily
> commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of the
> reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic.
> Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a standstill
> mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of the
> wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
> Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
> Tom
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
think the QEW is bad @ the Ford plant in Oakville... try the A40 into London
on a typical Sunday afternoon, nevermind Monday-Friday rush hour!
BTW. Hamilton is a smelly dump. Go somewhere else!
Signed, ex-Hamiltonian.
"Tom Masters" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily
> commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of the
> reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic.
> Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a standstill
> mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of the
> wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
> Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
> Tom
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Sep 18th 2002, 6:04 pm
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Originally posted by David:
People in Ontario have no idea what traffic congestion is really like. They
think the QEW is bad @ the Ford plant in Oakville... try the A40 into London
on a typical Sunday afternoon, nevermind Monday-Friday rush hour!
BTW. Hamilton is a smelly dump. Go somewhere else!
Signed, ex-Hamiltonian.
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> I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily
Thanks for the tip. London, Ontario is beginning to sound like a better idea all the time!
> commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of the
> reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic.
> Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a standstill
> mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of the
> wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
> Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
> Tom
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People in Ontario have no idea what traffic congestion is really like. They
think the QEW is bad @ the Ford plant in Oakville... try the A40 into London
on a typical Sunday afternoon, nevermind Monday-Friday rush hour!
BTW. Hamilton is a smelly dump. Go somewhere else!
Signed, ex-Hamiltonian.
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> I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily
Thanks for the tip. London, Ontario is beginning to sound like a better idea all the time!
> commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of the
> reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic.
> Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a standstill
> mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of the
> wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
> Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
> Tom
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Sep 18th 2002, 8:45 pm
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Re: traffic in canada
Originally posted by Stuart Brook:
Tom Masters wrote:
> I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily
> commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of the
> reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic.
> Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a standstill
> mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of the
> wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
> Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
> Tom
It depends on where you go in Canada. If you're in Toronto and are
commuting on the 401, then it's like being by the M25. On the other
hand if you're in Ottawa, then it's a real breeze ... you can normally
cross the city from far west to far east in about 30 minutes.
Driving here is far more relaxed, even in traffic jams (automatic
trannies help there a lot), but it tends to be far less agressive too.
Stuart
Tom Masters wrote:
> I noticed in a previous thread that Bodza Bodza mentioned the daily
> commute to work could be worse in Canada compared to the UK. One of the
> reasons we are thinking of leaving the UK is because of the traffic.
> Maybe it is because we live near the M4 which is always at a standstill
> mainly due to accidents. I was under the impression that because of the
> wider, larger roads and less people, there was less traffic congestion.
> Is this true or is it just as bad/worse in Canada?
> Tom
It depends on where you go in Canada. If you're in Toronto and are
commuting on the 401, then it's like being by the M25. On the other
hand if you're in Ottawa, then it's a real breeze ... you can normally
cross the city from far west to far east in about 30 minutes.
Driving here is far more relaxed, even in traffic jams (automatic
trannies help there a lot), but it tends to be far less agressive too.
Stuart
I want to settle in Nova Scotia, and when I first visited there on leaving Halifax airport about midday, I couldn't believe that the road we were on (102) was a major highway through the province - there was hardly any traffic (going north) and the traffic was tootling along as if on a Sunday afternoon outing, that's how laid back they are there.
Conversely, the majority of the time I was being driven along the 401 in Ontario, particularly through TO, I had my eyes shut - but that's because I am a worse passenger than I am a driver! On the town roads I also noticed a lot of red light jumping.
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