British Expats - Tipping Protocol

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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)

- Canada (https://britishexpats.com/forum/canada-56/)

- - Tipping Protocol (https://britishexpats.com/forum/canada-56/tipping-protocol-642462/)

Alan2005

Nov 29th 2009 7:58 am

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 8132689)

I didn't think you liked conforming to "rules"? :p

I don't like it but it's preferable to some chef doing a micheal winner in my soup.

MR79	Nov 29th 2009 8:11 am

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i dont see the point in tipping, it should be upto the restaurant to pay their staff higher wages.........

JonboyE

Nov 29th 2009 8:20 am

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Originally Posted by MR79 (Post 8133529)

i dont see the point in tipping, it should be upto the restaurant to pay their staff higher wages.........

Then the food will cost more, and if we got lousy service there's not much we can do about it.

Aviator

Nov 29th 2009 8:40 am

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Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 8133549)

Then the food will cost more, and if we got lousy service there's not much we can do about it.

Margins are already very high. It is largely because it has always been this way and they can get away with it.
If you get lousy service, why would it be any different to any other store, you complain to the management, if they want to keep customers they do something about it, or you just go somewhere else.

Would retail stores give better service if you tipped the cashier or sales assistant?

Alan2005

Nov 29th 2009 8:41 am

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Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 8133549)

Then the food will cost more, and if we got lousy service there's not much we can do about it.

Except not go back obviously. Nobody actually likes tipping, we do it cos it is the socially accepted norm.

(The Japanese have this right, no tipping and you pay at a till on the way out.)

Alan2005

Nov 29th 2009 8:48 am

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Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 8133586)

Would retail stores give better service if you tipped the cashier or sales assistant?

The liquor store near me has a tips jar. Cheeky gits - needless to say I never put anything in it (and nor does anyone else by the looks of it)

Aviator

Nov 29th 2009 8:56 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8133601)

The liquor store near me has a tips jar. Cheeky gits - needless to say I never put anything in it (and nor does anyone else by the looks of it)

Perhaps flight crews should start passing a a hat around as passengers disembark! Or maybe they would feel more generous before the flight takes off:)

Steve_P

Nov 29th 2009 9:00 am

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Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 8133617)

Perhaps flight crews should start passing a a hat around as passengers disembark! Or maybe they would feel more generous before the flight takes off:)

Isn't that Air Canada's new business model? ;):ohmy:

JonboyE

Nov 29th 2009 9:01 am

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Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 8133586)

Margins are already very high. It is largely because it has always been this way and they can get away with it.

I think the rule of thumb is 1/3rd for the food, 1/3rd for wages, and a 1/3rd for overheads. A 200% markup on food. That said, not many non-franchise restaurants make much profit. If they pay the staff more they will have to increase prices

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If you get lousy service, why would it be any different to any other store, you complain to the management, if they want to keep customers they do something about it, or you just go somewhere else.

Would retail stores give better service if you tipped the cashier or sales assistant?

It is different to going shopping though. I go to nice restaurants to celebrate a special occasion, or to entertain friends or customers. I want a relaxing, enjoyable occasion and good service makes or breaks the event. I don't want to spend time arguing with the management when I should be enjoying myself.

JonboyE

Nov 29th 2009 9:06 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8133589)

(The Japanese have this right, no tipping and you pay at a till on the way out.)

It is not a fair comparison. The Japanese approach comes from a code of manners that took hundreds of years to develop. Good luck in trying the get western yoof to behave in that way.

Alan2005

Nov 29th 2009 9:12 am

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Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 8133639)

It is not a fair comparison. The Japanese approach comes from a code of manners that took hundreds of years to develop. Good luck in trying the get western yoof to behave in that way.

That's a very accusatory tone. Did somebody not tip your properly for your last set of accounts;)

I said they had it right, not that it would work here. North americans are too grasping for that.

JonboyE

Nov 29th 2009 9:47 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8133651)

Did somebody not tip your properly for your last set of accounts;)

The only tip anyone has given me was to buy shares in a company that lost 90% of their value in the following six months. Fortunately, I am far too close to a dollar to risk money on speculation.

If a client wanted to give me a tip I would curse myself for not charging them enough.

Aviator

Nov 29th 2009 9:48 am

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Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 8133639)

It is not a fair comparison. The Japanese approach comes from a code of manners that took hundreds of years to develop.

So western cultures have not developed a code of manners yet?

JonboyE

Nov 29th 2009 10:17 am

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Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 8133699)

So western cultures have not developed a code of manners yet?

Of course they have, but it is a different one.

NotTooShabby

Nov 29th 2009 12:12 pm

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 8130706)

Balls.

Tipping wouldnâ€™t be so objectionable if it werenâ€™t for the expectation and the sense of entitlement by the server and the establishment no matter what level of service is provided.

Tips should start at zero. If a server does an extraordinary job, you give them a little something to show you liked the level of service.

It is unfortunate that servers donâ€™t get paid more, but tipping could exacerbate the problem. Why would a restaurant owner pay more when the onus of a wage shortfall is picked up by the patron.

Spot on.

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