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dbd33 Dec 18th 2006 3:42 am

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Originally Posted by oceanMDX
With respect to the place "boozing" has in Canadian culture as a whole, this has changed markedly over the past 35 years. Canadians - as a whole - have cut back severely on the habit of imbibing alcoholic beverages over that time. I can easily recall 35-40 years ago when the ditches of both sides of any highway in southern Ontario had plenty of empty beer bottles in them.

Certainly there has been something of a move away from alcohol toward illegal or semi-legal drugs but I don't think we need fear for the future of the Canadian sports bar or the LCBO. Bob and Doug Mackenzie continue to represent the Canadian archetype.

dbd33 Dec 18th 2006 3:44 am

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Originally Posted by oceanMDX
I'm not from Mexico, I just reside here in the winter. I also lived in Nfld for a year, and "pub" is a British word that Canadians are familiar with. In English Canadian vernacular the name for a drinking establish is: "hotel" or "bar" - not "pub".


Ahem. If a Canadian invites one to a hotel the drinking is incidental.

dbd33 Dec 18th 2006 3:47 am

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Originally Posted by oceanMDX
My family (on both sides) goes back at least 200 years in the Region of Waterloo.

Just a minute, Waterloo, Mexico, skewed view of Canadian society, are you a Mennonite?

oceanMDX Dec 18th 2006 3:47 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33
Certainly there has been something of a move away from alcohol toward illegal or semi-legal drugs but I don't think we need fear for the future of the Canadian sports bar or the LCBO. Bob and Doug Mackenzie continue to represent the Canadian archetype.

Do you have any idea just how may beer/alcoholic beverage plants have shut down in Ontario over the last 30 years? I don't think so.

Bob and Doug Mackenzie continue to represent the Canadian archetype about as well as the Beverley Hillbillies continue to represent the "American" archetype.

Rich_007 Dec 18th 2006 3:48 am

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Originally Posted by oceanMDX
In English Canadian vernacular the name for a drinking establish is: "hotel" or "bar" - not "pub".

Seems to be 'bar' or 'pub' hereabouts. Nobody seems to spend an inordinate amount of time there though, home-based imbibing of alcoholic brews is preferred, IMHO. Excesses seem to be handled privately or at specific points such as Christmas works parties. And only where the hard core laggards are remaining in situ.

Rich.

oceanMDX Dec 18th 2006 3:49 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33
Just a minute, Waterloo, Mexico, skewed view of Canadian society, are you a Mennonite?

My mother's side of the family were in fact Mennonites, but they drove around in a car - not a carriage. I guess they were more progressive Mennonites. I am not now or have have been a Mennonite. I was raised RC.

dbd33 Dec 18th 2006 4:15 am

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Originally Posted by oceanMDX
Do you have any idea just how may beer/alcoholic beverage plants have shut down in Ontario over the last 30 years? I don't think so.

That's because the tastes of people in Ontario have become more discerning. Not because the individuals have changed, old Canadians still drink Molson or Labatt products, but because more people are immigrants. We can get more of your beers up here now, not just Corona and Dos Equis but also Negra Modelo.

Grah Dec 18th 2006 4:56 am

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Originally Posted by oceanMDX
The word "pub" isn't even part of the Canadian vernacular. Fact is, the word "pub" sounds very UK to any native born Canadian.


Again depends on the Canadians you talk to, here alot use pub and tavern. Perhaps it has something to do with there being bars named Pub and tavern. or recent immigrant families?

Also confused on where this thread ended up on a pub theme when the original poster wanted to be paid not to work.

kt0157 Dec 18th 2006 5:14 am

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Originally Posted by Rich_007
The sheer accessibility to outdoor pursuits is in a different league here, generally in the (Y)UK people see winter as a time to hibernate, get fat, eat lardy food, lie about and close the curtains to the went dank misery of the world outside their cold draughty terraced house.

I should point out to those living in BC that they live further south than the UK. More so for SW Ontarians. When it doesn't get light til 10am and dark at 3pm, your enjoyment of the outdoors is more limited.

K.

Tableland Dec 18th 2006 6:04 am

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Originally Posted by kt0157
I should point out to those living in BC that they live further south than the UK. More so for SW Ontarians. When it doesn't get light til 10am and dark at 3pm, your enjoyment of the outdoors is more limited.

K.

In fact just about all of habitable Canada is further south than England, and even Calgary is about the same latitude as Cardiff.

pint princess Dec 18th 2006 6:49 am

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Originally Posted by kt0157
I should point out to those living in BC that they live further south than the UK. More so for SW Ontarians. When it doesn't get light til 10am and dark at 3pm, your enjoyment of the outdoors is more limited.

K.

Only if you're afraid of the dark.

Rich_007 Dec 18th 2006 6:54 am

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Originally Posted by pint princess
Only if you're afraid of the dark.

Bogeyman/sasquatch/incubus/succubus/bedwetting issues ? :eek: :scared:

Rich.

Rich_007 Dec 18th 2006 7:06 am

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Originally Posted by Grah
Also confused on where this thread ended up on a pub theme when the original poster wanted to be paid not to work.

Interweb madness...it's insane, out of control, cyber-democracy gawn mad.

:eek: :p

Rich.

Madmac Dec 18th 2006 7:17 am

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Originally Posted by Rich_007
Bogeyman/sasquatch/incubus/succubus/bedwetting issues ? :eek: :scared:

Rich.

Have you been having the same nightmares as me then Rich? :p

Rich_007 Dec 18th 2006 9:09 am

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Originally Posted by Madmac
Have you been having the same nightmares as me then Rich? :p

Succubus fears...........hmmmm............deeply entrenched in many cultures deepest psyches. :eek: :scared: :mad:

The bogeyman, zombie flesh-eater, bigfoot/sasquatch, ogopogo, alien abduction, reds under the bed, eastern European immigrants, dole cheats, scroungers, football hooligans, chavs, Tory voters, Red Ken, Albanian gangstas, da wicked inna city gun-crime massive, :zzz:

Are you afraid of the big bad wolf :confused:

Rich.

raistlin Dec 18th 2006 9:31 am

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Originally Posted by ben123
Hi,

I have a opportunity to immigrate to BC via the PNP process.
I have just one problem and that is time off from work.
To me it is a big part of my life, having time with your family and being able to see the world.
Being in BC their are opportunities for skiing and the wilderness.
How do people do this?How do people see sporting events during the week if they are at work?
Also being in the private sector are you being treated as a 2nd class citizen as if you are working in the public sector i.e Nurses you start of with 4 weeks vacation.
Is it all work?
This is important to me so much that I am very tempted to opt for Australia.




Seems to have provoked a lot of discussion this one.

We're pretty far along the Skilled Worker route, looking to move next May - after second addition to the family.

I have to say, that the leave allowance is something that keeps cropping up within my mind. One day I'm fine with it, the next it's like :scared: .

We all know the pro's and con's of staying or going - there's variations here and there, but one major downside for many it seems is moving away from friends and family.

For me, the 'time off' factor becomes a major influence because I'd always intended to travel back to the UK once a year (or even once every 2) - didn't want the children to not 'know' their grandparents etc.

With 10 days leave, that's not really an option.
OK, the family and friends can come to see us - but I can't take as much leave as I would have liked, to relax with them.

Is it something in itself that would stop us moving out there - I don't think so, but add it to a few other small reasons, it may be something that just tips the balance.

(BTW - I'm having a stay in the UK week this week, give me another 10 days I'll be on a get me outta this f*****g country and off to Canada - and so on and so on ................ :confused: :confused: :confused: )

Cheers all

or4ngecrush Dec 18th 2006 9:52 am

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Originally Posted by tableland
In fact just about all of habitable Canada is further south than England, and even Calgary is about the same latitude as Cardiff.

Nfld gs the same latitude as Edinburgh

Madmac Dec 18th 2006 10:22 am

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Originally Posted by Rich_007
Succubus fears...........hmmmm............deeply entrenched in many cultures deepest psyches. :eek: :scared: :mad:

The bogeyman, zombie flesh-eater, bigfoot/sasquatch, ogopogo, alien abduction, reds under the bed, eastern European immigrants, dole cheats, scroungers, football hooligans, chavs, Tory voters, Red Ken, Albanian gangstas, da wicked inna city gun-crime massive, :zzz:

Are you afraid of the big bad wolf :confused:

Rich.

Au Contraire - I always root for him when reading Little Red Riding Hood who, lets face it, was a midget-sized junkie, high on smack when she slipped out into the forest to 'visit' her 'granny' (pimp)! :p

Rich_007 Dec 18th 2006 10:28 am

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Originally Posted by Madmac
Au Contraire - I always root for him when reading Little Red Riding Hood who, lets face it, was a midget-sized junkie, high on smack when she slipped out into the forest to 'visit' her 'granny' (pimp)! :p

Little Red Riding Hood interpreted as 'woman asking to be raped' type of dusky woodland scenario with be-whiskered four legged fiend AKA incubus character ? Hmmm. Licks lips, prepares salt, gets big net to trap LRRH. Boils large vat of water, sharpens knives.

:rolleyes: :p

Rich.

Daedra Dec 18th 2006 11:09 am

Re: Time off
 

Originally Posted by raistlin


Seems to have provoked a lot of discussion this one.

We're pretty far along the Skilled Worker route, looking to move next May - after second addition to the family.

I have to say, that the leave allowance is something that keeps cropping up within my mind. One day I'm fine with it, the next it's like :scared: .

We all know the pro's and con's of staying or going - there's variations here and there, but one major downside for many it seems is moving away from friends and family.

For me, the 'time off' factor becomes a major influence because I'd always intended to travel back to the UK once a year (or even once every 2) - didn't want the children to not 'know' their grandparents etc.

With 10 days leave, that's not really an option.
OK, the family and friends can come to see us - but I can't take as much leave as I would have liked, to relax with them.

Is it something in itself that would stop us moving out there - I don't think so, but add it to a few other small reasons, it may be something that just tips the balance.

(BTW - I'm having a stay in the UK week this week, give me another 10 days I'll be on a get me outta this f*****g country and off to Canada - and so on and so on ................ :confused: :confused: :confused: )

Cheers all

Cool name and makes me think of Dragonlance books for some strange reason ;)

It is a difficult thing, even on the best of days you question your choices... it really comes down to, if it was meant to be, nothing will come in your way to dissuade you :)

Atlantic Xpat Dec 18th 2006 12:26 pm

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Originally Posted by or4ngecrush
Nfld gs the same latitude as Edinburgh

That probably depends what part of Newfoundland you are talking about. St John's, so Mrs AX tells me, is on the same latitude as Paris!

Rich_007 Dec 18th 2006 12:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
St John's, so Mrs AX tells me, is on the same latitude as Paris

Is there as much dog shit on the pavement :confused: :confused:

Rich.

dbd33 Dec 18th 2006 11:09 pm

Re: Time off
 

Originally Posted by raistlin


Seems to have provoked a lot of discussion this one.

We're pretty far along the Skilled Worker route, looking to move next May - after second addition to the family.

I have to say, that the leave allowance is something that keeps cropping up within my mind. One day I'm fine with it, the next it's like :scared: .

We all know the pro's and con's of staying or going - there's variations here and there, but one major downside for many it seems is moving away from friends and family.

For me, the 'time off' factor becomes a major influence because I'd always intended to travel back to the UK once a year (or even once every 2) - didn't want the children to not 'know' their grandparents etc.

With 10 days leave, that's not really an option.
OK, the family and friends can come to see us - but I can't take as much leave as I would have liked, to relax with them.

Is it something in itself that would stop us moving out there - I don't think so, but add it to a few other small reasons, it may be something that just tips the balance.

(BTW - I'm having a stay in the UK week this week, give me another 10 days I'll be on a get me outta this f*****g country and off to Canada - and so on and so on ................ :confused: :confused: :confused: )

Cheers all

We resolved the chidren seeing their grandparents issue by sending them, sometimes with their mother, to Europe for the summers. I think this is quite common. It has the advantage of allowing the children to be exposed to art, history and culture.

raistlin Dec 19th 2006 7:19 am

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Originally Posted by Daedra
Cool name and makes me think of Dragonlance books for some strange reason ;)

It is a difficult thing, even on the best of days you question your choices... it really comes down to, if it was meant to be, nothing will come in your way to dissuade you :)



Dragonlance - back in the days when choices were simple - your mum made them for you :)
I recognise Daedra aswell, can't place it yet though.

Yep, questioning my choices is something that I'm doing on a pretty regular basis at the moment. I'm hoping for a moment of clarity when the Visa's sat in our hands.

raistlin Dec 19th 2006 7:21 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33
We resolved the chidren seeing their grandparents issue by sending them, sometimes with their mother, to Europe for the summers. I think this is quite common. It has the advantage of allowing the children to be exposed to art, history and culture.


That's a good idea, hadn't thought of that. Did it ever make them want to live near their family? Or were they always happy to return?

dbd33 Dec 19th 2006 7:32 am

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Originally Posted by raistlin
That's a good idea, hadn't thought of that. Did it ever make them want to live near their family? Or were they always happy to return?

I don't think they're particularly drawn to family but they are keen to live in Europe. One took a gap year and worked there, she recently finished university and would, I think, have gone back at the end of it had she not become involved with an American. Another will finish university this spring; it's anyones guess what she'll do. A factor in this is that their mother spends about half the year there, in her case family and friends are the major draw as she's never really settled here.

raistlin Dec 19th 2006 7:39 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33
I don't think they're particularly drawn to family but they are keen to live in Europe. One took a gap year and worked there, she recently finished university and would, I think, have gone back at the end of it had she not become involved with an American. Another will finish university this spring; it's anyones guess what she'll do. A factor in this is that their mother spends about half the year there, in her case family and friends are the major draw as she's never really settled here.



Thanks for the reply dbd. Family and friends are going to be the biggest factor for us too.

Daedra Dec 19th 2006 4:34 pm

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Originally Posted by raistlin

Dragonlance - back in the days when choices were simple - your mum made them for you :)
I recognise Daedra aswell, can't place it yet though.

Yep, questioning my choices is something that I'm doing on a pretty regular basis at the moment. I'm hoping for a moment of clarity when the Visa's sat in our hands.

Sadly I know all too well of what you speak :(

Daedra's a terminology used in the Edler Scrolls games, basically their word for a 'demon' or 'semi-god'.

It's a scary process for anyone leaving comfort & security, heck my moment of panik only sunk in the day before my flight to the UK, before that I was a seesaw of emotions almost by the hour!

But those that risk the greatest are the ones that gain the most, even if its solely the experience of learning what its like. Good luck to you guys! :)

happylandings Dec 23rd 2006 3:14 am

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Originally Posted by ben123
Perhaps that explains why there`s over 60 million in the uk and only 30 million in Canada.Since when has Canada been a part of America?
It`s all about work-leisure balance and I would rather have more leisure!

Ben, dude
How about 'self-employed' route in Canada? You can 'choose' your holiday time, (in line with your business). A lotta people seem to go 'own business' route -ok, has it's drawbacks, but gives more 'freedom.'

All The Best,
HL.


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