Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas

Technically yes, Aboriginal people are citizens of Canada but there is no they when referring to how various people define themselves. It's pointless to contain a group of people into nice, neat categories.

Originally Posted by oceanMDX

WTF?

Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy

Ask 10 cradle (white) canadians the same questions and you'll get the same results.

Originally Posted by Hunterau

I am Canadian (emigrated to Oz). My father is Metis and my mother is white, therefore I am 1/2 Metis. Clear?

Originally Posted by oceanMDX

I don't think that you are correct that they (Indians born in Canada) have any inherent right to a US passport, since they aren't US citizens. The Jay Treaty gives them the right to reside and work in the US, but without citizenship.

Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy

Pardon? What are you trying to say?

Originally Posted by oceanMDX

The "Natives" certainly consider themselves to be Canadians with special rights.

Originally Posted by Hunterau

I am Canadian (emigrated to Oz). My father is Metis and my mother is white, therefore I am 1/2 Metis. Clear?

Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas

Oh please....

Originally Posted by dingbat

OK..potted history 101:

Metis were the product of unions between native women and European men. The native women were already here as it were and the children tended to stay here while the men left, as the kids would not have been accepted in Britain or France. These kids fitted into neither native or white culture and as a result a distinct settlement of ostracised 'half-breeds" (not my choice of words before anyone says anything) began to evolve. Some men came back, but they would have generally been the object of ridicule with a native wife in tow.

http://www.metisnation.ca/who/index.html explains why the Metis are considered aboriginal better than I can!

At the risk of annoying anyone with Acadian heritage...Acadians were direct imports from France.... i.e. no connection to the existing natives who populated what we know as Canada at the time the first europeans turned up. The Brits got pissed off at them after the Treaty of Utrecht (when Britain got Nova Scotia given to them by the French) because the Acadians refused to swear allegiance to the Monarch. These were French people from France who hated the British at the best of times. Britain then booted them out in numbers from Acadia (Nova Scotia). Many moved to Louisiana....became know as Cajun for no reason other than deep Southern accents could not enunciate A cadian. There is no evidence of high numbers of native/Acadian children being born - many French/native and Scottish/native and British/native with some Russian/native children...but these people identified as anything but Acadian and so the distinction was carved.

I need a social life.

Originally Posted by oceanMDX

The Acadians were of French extraction and refused to pledge allegeance to the British Crown after the French forces were defeated in what is now Nova Scotia so they were placed on ships and send back to France (and elsewhere) circa 1775. The Indians often fought as allies of the British. Ergo, the Indians got treaties, and the Acadians got the boot.

Originally Posted by dingbat

There is one particular native band that does....I cannot for the life of me remember the name. I remember being taught about it as my instructor had some affiliation with the band and he held a US paasport as well as Canadian. In the meantime, I would defer to HWP or anyone else with detailed knowledge. What I know is from books and Uni, that's all.

Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy

Acadians were here pre 1700.

Originally Posted by oceanMDX

Please look it up ... I would like to have you confirm this. I don't see how this is legally possible.

Originally Posted by oceanMDX

Please look it up ... I would like to have you confirm this. I don't see how this is legally possible.