Butch Cassidy

OK
LOL But the fact is its there land not ours
BTW explain to me how metis are 'aboriginal' and acadians arent????

hot wasabi peas

Important point - ask 10 Aboriginal people their conceptions of nation, identity, governing, citizenship and ... well anything really and you'll probably get 10 different answers. 'They' are not the borg ( that's Canada Post ).

Hunterau

ARGGHHH!

I am 1/2 Metis (albeit in Oz) and I take great issue with anyone saying that Canada belongs to anyone! The fact is that both my white mother and Metis father have the right to call Canada home, so do you!

And as HWP said ask 10 Aboriginal people who's really First Nations and you will get 10 different answers!

hot wasabi peas

Métis and Métis culture are of mainly Aboriginal and French origin.
Acadians and Acadian culture originate mainly just from France.

oceanMDX

I don't think that you are correct that they (Indians born in Canada) have any inherent right to a US passport, since they aren't US citizens. The Jay Treaty gives them the right to reside and work in the US, but without citizenship.

oceanMDX

Yes, they are citizens of Canada. They consider themselves Canadians Plus. In other words, Canadians with additional rights.

Butch Cassidy

Ok explain that one to me????
You are either metis or you aren't metis surely???

aboriginal does not equal first nation (as far as I know)

Anyway I'm still waiting to hear why metis are deemed aboriginal and acadians arent.

Butch Cassidy

Acadians predate Metis in Canada though!!

Butch Cassidy

Ask 10 cradle (white) canadians the same questions and you'll get the same results.

oceanMDX

WTF?

oceanMDX

Exactly.

hot wasabi peas

Technically yes, Aboriginal people are citizens of Canada but there is no they when referring to how various people define themselves. It's pointless to contain a group of people into nice, neat categories.

oceanMDX

Acadians were on the King of England's shit list.

Butch Cassidy

Pardon? What are you trying to say?

dingbat

OK..potted history 101:

Metis were the product of unions between native women and European men. The native women were already here as it were and the children tended to stay here while the men left, as the kids would not have been accepted in Britain or France. These kids fitted into neither native or white culture and as a result a distinct settlement of ostracised 'half-breeds" (not my choice of words before anyone says anything) began to evolve. Some men came back, but they would have generally been the object of ridicule with a native wife in tow.

http://www.metisnation.ca/who/index.html explains why the Metis are considered aboriginal better than I can!

At the risk of annoying anyone with Acadian heritage...Acadians were direct imports from France.... i.e. no connection to the existing natives who populated what we know as Canada at the time the first europeans turned up. The Brits got pissed off at them after the Treaty of Utrecht (when Britain got Nova Scotia given to them by the French) because the Acadians refused to swear allegiance to the Monarch. These were French people from France who hated the British at the best of times. Britain then booted them out in numbers from Acadia (Nova Scotia). Many moved to Louisiana....became know as Cajun for no reason other than deep Southern accents could not enunciate A cadian. There is no evidence of high numbers of native/Acadian children being born - many French/native and Scottish/native and British/native with some Russian/native children...but these people identified as anything but Acadian and so the distinction was carved.

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