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christmasoompa Mar 4th 2010 12:26 am

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Originally Posted by act1980 (Post 8393222)
The reason I asked about the USA is because I am getting married there next year. Looks like they may not be able to make it if the USA is just as strict:eek:

It's even stricter. The US is particularly strict with drug convictions, so hope none of your friends/family have got one!

act1980 Mar 4th 2010 12:30 am

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Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 8393229)
It's even stricter. The US is particularly strict with drug convictions, so hope none of your friends/family have got one!

No they don't. Unless they aren't telling me things:blink:

I would hate to be restricted on where I could travel. :(

Auld Yin Mar 4th 2010 12:31 am

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Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 8393208)
Because, of course, nobody in Canada ever drives under the influence.

Except, maybe the premier of BC.

Well perhaps that's the point. We have enough of our own without importing them from other countries.

act1980 Mar 5th 2010 6:23 am

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Hi again,

I have given my friend all the information provided on here, thanks!

She has one more question.... how would they know at immigration that she was arrested for her offence?

Thanks again!:)

dbd33 Mar 5th 2010 6:26 am

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Originally Posted by act1980 (Post 8397018)
Hi again,

I have given my friend all the information provided on here, thanks!

She has one more question.... how would they know at immigration that she was arrested for her offence?

Thanks again!:)

I don't think they would and, for the purpose of a visit, would take the chance that they either would not find out or the individual officer concerned would turn a blind eye.

el_richo Mar 5th 2010 6:38 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8397027)
I don't think they would and, for the purpose of a visit, would take the chance that they either would not find out or the individual officer concerned would turn a blind eye.

I agree with dbd on this one. I'd be confident in stating that many people travel into Canada who have criminal records such as your friend and have no issues at all.

The only issue is if they have some way of recording criminal record declarations based on information given during previous travels into Canada and your friend visited and declared their record. I very much doubt this is the case.

act1980 Mar 5th 2010 6:41 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8397027)
I don't think they would and, for the purpose of a visit, would take the chance that they either would not find out or the individual officer concerned would turn a blind eye.


Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 8397072)
I agree with dbd on this one. I'd be confident in stating that many people travel into Canada who have criminal records such as your friend and have no issues at all.

The only issue is if they have some way of recording criminal record declarations based on information given during previous travels into Canada and your friend visited and declared their record. I very much doubt this is the case.

Thanks for your help. She is a good person but just made a very stupid decision a couple of years ago and is paying for it now.

Do you think we would share this information with Canada though? I would assume that it would be terrorist attacks they would be more worried about but I could be wrong.

el_richo Mar 5th 2010 6:51 am

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Originally Posted by act1980 (Post 8397089)
Thanks for your help. She is a good person but just made a very stupid decision a couple of years ago and is paying for it now.

Do you think we would share this information with Canada though? I would assume that it would be terrorist attacks they would be more worried about but I could be wrong.



I would be very suprised if criminal records at the level of your friend were shared between the UK and Canada.

act1980 Mar 5th 2010 7:54 am

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We are thinking that we will just chance it.

We are going to visit the US for the day and see if anything flags up. If it doesn't that hopefully means that there is a strong possiblility that it won't show up next year for my wedding:confused:

Souvy Mar 5th 2010 8:13 am

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 8397120)
I would be very suprised if criminal records at the level of your friend were shared between the UK and Canada.

Any idea what sort of information is contained in a machine-readable passport?

I haven't, but if there a five countries that are going to share info, they are the USA, UK, Canada, Australia and NZ.

el_richo Mar 5th 2010 8:19 am

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Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 8397337)
Any idea what sort of information is contained in a machine-readable passport?

I haven't, but if there a five countries that are going to share info, they are the USA, UK, Canada, Australia and NZ.

I did know that they didn't share information between countries in this way and any info was stored locally only. But this was back in 2004/5 and it may have changed since then.

JonboyE Mar 5th 2010 8:28 am

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The US and Canada certainly share information about convictions. If you are convicted of DD in the US you'll lose your Canadian license.

I am not so sure about the UK. The last time time I renewed my BC license I was asked if I still had my British license and if I had any tickets or convictions while using it.

mandymoochops Mar 5th 2010 8:31 am

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With your "chip n pin" passport as I like to call them I would like to think that the only info stored there would be that which is in paper format on your passport, ie name dob, pic, the countries you have travelled to and the oes you have been refused entry to and why.

However without wanting to go all big brother on everyone - who knows whats on there?

Like ER and DBD said though - I bet theres thousands of people around the world that have travelled with convictions for things, and haven't even thought it would be problematic enough for them to mention it.

Because of this, i'll wager that sort of info isn't stored.

But what do I know - CIA / FBI / MI5 etc won't be beating down my door as a recruit for my intelligence in matters such as this.

act1980 Mar 5th 2010 8:55 am

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Does anyone have a copy of the form they make you fill in on the plane? I wanna read through it.

I can only get the US ones:thumbdown:

Ta!

lmartin999 Mar 5th 2010 9:09 am

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Originally Posted by act1980 (Post 8397471)
Does anyone have a copy of the form they make you fill in on the plane? I wanna read through it.

I can only get the US ones:thumbdown:

Ta!

What form? The Canadian one is only for customs. Nothing to do with immigration.


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