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Coffeepot Oct 31st 2008 10:18 am

Re: A test to far
 

Originally Posted by sas-lou (Post 6929601)
I wasnt expecting so many responses but thanks for your honesty.

He was fine talking to my mum, she was just surprised about how calm i'm being about it.

As my passports are now in London, he's looking to come over in the next few weeks as long as he can get time off work.

I honestly dont know where to go from here, if i leave everything behind and make this marriage work to his standards and it fails then im in Canada with 2 kids and no safety net. That safety net is around me now in England (in regards to rented house, furniture and family etc).

I only wish he'd tell me what HE wants now as i just get angry/calm/sad/bitchy when talking to him.

I will get some money back off him.

And no, lets not man bash .. Hubby was a great cook and he was mine.

Its funny you type and read it over and you realise what your writing and i've just realised i wrote "his standards". says it all.

Hope it all works out ok Sas-lou really do hun xx

Paul Wildy Oct 31st 2008 10:34 am

Re: A test to far
 

Originally Posted by sas-lou (Post 6929601)
I wasnt expecting so many responses but thanks for your honesty.

He was fine talking to my mum, she was just surprised about how calm i'm being about it.

As my passports are now in London, he's looking to come over in the next few weeks as long as he can get time off work.

I honestly dont know where to go from here, if i leave everything behind and make this marriage work to his standards and it fails then im in Canada with 2 kids and no safety net. That safety net is around me now in England (in regards to rented house, furniture and family etc).

I only wish he'd tell me what HE wants now as i just get angry/calm/sad/bitchy when talking to him.

I will get some money back off him.

And no, lets not man bash .. Hubby was a great cook and he was mine.

Its funny you type and read it over and you realise what your writing and i've just realised i wrote "his standards". says it all.

Wow, I've only just read this thread and I dunno what to say! My heart goes out to you.

So he is in Canada already? And now is (privately) expecting you not to join him after all? I think I have to agree with all those others above that say you should go anyway and find out whats going on and if there is anything to salvage. I do agree that a marraige is worth fighting for. Men may have a tendancy to give up too easily but that doesnt mean things cannot be reversed.

If it didnt work out would that mean you abandon hope of living in Canada or would you want to forge a new life there anyway even without him?

sas-lou Nov 1st 2008 5:38 am

Re: A test to far
 

Originally Posted by NSpaul (Post 6929713)
Wow, I've only just read this thread and I dunno what to say! My heart goes out to you.

So he is in Canada already? And now is (privately) expecting you not to join him after all? I think I have to agree with all those others above that say you should go anyway and find out whats going on and if there is anything to salvage. I do agree that a marraige is worth fighting for. Men may have a tendancy to give up too easily but that doesnt mean things cannot be reversed.

If it didnt work out would that mean you abandon hope of living in Canada or would you want to forge a new life there anyway even without him?

Yes he is already in Canada been there for just over 5 months now.

I dont see how i can go to Canada alone, i dont think i'll be better off financially, i know noone, if i didnt have children then i'd still go .. just not sure if thats an option now .. wonder if there is anything in wiki about this.
Sad thing is i was talking to my youngest tonight (11 yr old) he still wants to go, if i am with jason or not. At the moment i'll keep my options open, who knows what will happen.

Judy in Calgary Nov 1st 2008 6:19 am

Re: A test to far
 
Hi, sas-lou. This is a surreal situation, and I don't know where to begin to respond to the personal aspect of it.

But right now I just want to assist in answering a technical question if possible. You said:

Originally Posted by sas-lou (Post 6931154)
wonder if there is anything in wiki about this.

This is what the Wiki on Spousal Sponsorship has to say:

  • There are several instances in which members of the BE forum have sponsored their spouses and partners or have been sponsored by their Canadian spouses and partners and are living happily in Canada.
  • It is worth noting, however, that sponsoring a spouse or partner and that person's dependent children is not without financial risk to the sponsor.
  • Even if the couple divorce or split up, the sponsor is obliged to support the sponsored spouse or partner, if necessary, for three years following his/her becoming a PR.
  • The sponsor also is obliged to sponsor the spouse or partner's dependent children, if necessary, for up to ten years.

I don't know what Jason's obligations would be in the current situation. That is, he has sponsored you but, prior to your "landing" in Canada and activating your PR status, he wants to (or at least may want to) pull out of the deal.

I think the most prudent thing to do would be to ask a specific question on the Immigration forum.

And every finger and toe is crossed for you for the long term outcome that will be best for you and your children. :wub:
x

Yoong Nov 1st 2008 6:46 am

Re: A test to far
 
sas-lou,sorry to hear about the challenges you are facing
and my very best wishes to you:wub:

If you are going to come here,get yourself prepared with financial
backing like getting a job and joining support groups.Can be isolating
and emotional draining when you are working on your marriage.
Any thought about marital counselling ?
Good luck.
Yoong

bodgerx Nov 1st 2008 7:42 am

Re: A test to far
 
This is really bad news. My condolences.

There was another thread a few days ago with a similar situation as yours. Food for thought for those thinking of leaving their spouses while setting things up from afar.

Paul Wildy Nov 3rd 2008 1:01 am

Re: A test to far
 

Originally Posted by sas-lou (Post 6931154)
.. just not sure if thats an option now .. wonder if there is anything in wiki about this...

Obviously from the above posts you were going through Spousal sponsorship. I presume this was under the Family Class not In Canada Class? What stage did it get to? Did you get the Sponsorship portion of the application get approved yet?

Ignoring all of the other stuff above for a moment, if your husband agreed to continue with the application then there is nothing to stop you proceeding with the application as normal. Providing you had not been seperated for at least a year and one of you hadn't entered into a new common-law relationship then you wouldnt become ineligible to proceed with the application according to the rules as far as I can tell.

If your husband didnt want to co-operate the circumstances are a bit different. If the sponsorship part of the application hasnt yet been processed there is nothing to stop him withdrawing it and the application is therefore dead. If the sponsorship portion was approved then I'm not sure if its still possible for him to withdraw it - he would already have made the Undertaking that goes with this part and you would have both signed the Sponsorship Agreement so it could be that this cannot be retracted but I'm not sure. If I can find out anything about this I'll let you know.

Paul Wildy Nov 3rd 2008 1:14 am

Re: A test to far
 
According to the CIC website it looks as though a Sponsorship application can be withdrawn at any stage prior to PR visas being issued. There is nothing in the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act or Regulations that deals specifically with an application being withdrawn after the sponsorship is approved as far as I can tell but if CIC's internal policy is as above then that is obviously what they will follow.

deanjp32 Nov 3rd 2008 1:37 am

Re: A test to far
 
You say you have no support network if you move here well how many replies have you had so far to this post? Thats quite a support network me thinks!!!

And i bet where you would be going you would make friends very easily!!

Get here and try to make a go of it and if it does not work out and you want to stay i guess you would be entitled to stay. You could easily get a job, apartment etc and he would have to support you also plus by being here you would soon know if he was F*****G :curse: someone as you put it. It's easy to say on a phone the things he has said whilst doing the above.

If all else fails it's only a flight back.

Give it a go and who knows coming to Canada may be the best thing you have ever done with or without him.

;)

fledermaus Nov 3rd 2008 1:41 am

Re: A test to far
 

Originally Posted by deanjp32 (Post 6935686)
You say you have no support network if you move here well how many replies have you had so far to this post? Thats quite a support network me thinks!!!

And i bet where you would be going you would make friends very easily!!

Get here and try to make a go of it and if it does not work out and you want to stay i guess you would be entitled to stay. You could easily get a job, apartment etc and he would have to support you also plus by being here you would soon know if he was F*****G :curse: someone as you put it. It's easy to say on a phone the things he has said whilst doing the above.

If all else fails it's only a flight back.

Give it a go and who knows coming to Canada may be the best thing you have ever done with or without him.

;)

I don't think any of this would be easy, jobs, friends, etc. Replies from posts on here are supportive, but spread over 7,000 miles how much use would we be in reality?

terese677 Nov 3rd 2008 3:42 am

Re: A test to far
 
Just wanted to send some hugs:wub:
Terese

drumhellerbound Nov 6th 2008 7:52 am

Re: A test to far
 
Was doing a search on "furniture" to find a thread I fell on the other day but can't find again and fell on this sad tale.

First off, so so sorry to hear about this - big virtual hugs!

Second off, what do *you* want to do? Do you want to live in Canada, alone or otherwise? If the answer is yes, then go for it and deal with whatever happens afterwards.

If there's a lot of doubt then I personally wouldn't bother. Call me harsh but if my guy did this to me, and I wasn't that bothered about moving then that'd be the end. If he really felt the marriage wasn't strong enough but hadn't bothered to do anything about it before, then he obviously wouldn't want to put any effort in, so that'd be that for me really. It takes two to make a good marriage.... and who knows where life could take you next, you may even find a great guy with whom you'd be very happy!:thumbsup:

Hope you manage to find the right way forward!


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