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dishwashing Feb 21st 2015 4:02 pm

Taxes
 
Do you lot use a DIY software (any good ones) or have an accountant? Just tryin' to decide. Hate filing paperwork

scilly Feb 21st 2015 4:05 pm

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We used to do our taxes ourselves, but handed it over to an accountant when we were going to spend a year in Australia in 1975/76

Have used an accountant ever since .................. it's much easier to hand everything over to someone who really knows what they are doing. I'm pretty certain that we would not have got a lot of the tax breaks that the various accountants have found for us over the years

nativenewyorker Feb 21st 2015 5:10 pm

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My husband (who is an accountant) uses Ufile. It's free the first year for new immigrants and very easy to use.

orly Feb 21st 2015 6:23 pm

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Used TurboTax last year and ended up with about $1,600 back between the wife and I. Cost about $40 in total to file both our returns through it. The "wizard" on the site was pretty easy to follow. Took less than an hour to do both and the CRA had no issues either which is always nice. Besides shifting some student tuition type "credits" around our income was pretty simple - just standard employment T4s (no rental income or self employment etc)

adele Feb 21st 2015 7:18 pm

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For the past couple of years I've used Studio Tax. Approved for NetFile and it's free.

Aviator Feb 22nd 2015 3:26 am

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Use an accountant, he finds stuff I never would! Saves me way more than he costs.

withabix Feb 22nd 2015 3:27 am

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I will be using TurboTax, when my T4 turns up....

All my colleagues swear by it.

ann m Feb 22nd 2015 3:38 am

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I've used UFile for the past five returns, no issues really.

There is a new section this year relating to the new family tax credit, it's not that easy to understand first run through but got there, and hit submit yesterday!

BristolUK Feb 22nd 2015 4:05 am

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Originally Posted by orly (Post 11572494)
Used TurboTax last year...just standard employment T4s (no rental income or self employment etc)


Originally Posted by adele (Post 11572520)
For the past couple of years I've used Studio Tax. Approved for NetFile and it's free.

That's interesting. We used StudioTax for several years and then TurboTax took them over...or something.

Scrub that....QuickTax was what we originally used. StudioTax was one we tried that also worked well.

Anyhow, both of them and others we experimented with were all good and coped with rental income and UK income.

Free for incomes under something like $20k but not expensive anyway.

They also retain much of the info in subsequent years.

Shirtback Feb 22nd 2015 4:28 am

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Originally Posted by adele (Post 11572520)
For the past couple of years I've used Studio Tax. Approved for NetFile and it's free.

+1 for Studio Tax. It was recommended to me here last year, & I'm now a fan.


Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 11572812)
Use an accountant, he finds stuff I never would! Saves me way more than he costs.

I think this depends on one's circumstances, sources of income for example (self-employed, employee, overseas income, investments, etc etc). Also ROI: it's worth my time to do it myself.

I'm not anti-accountants for tax returns per se (in spite of two horrendously awful experiences with them over the years), however if one only has employment income, DIY is pretty straight forward.

I learned to DIY when trying to understand (& ultimately fix, with the help of CRA & Revenu Quebec; and in the second incident help from this forum) horrendously awful accountant mistakes.

JB0591 Feb 22nd 2015 5:04 am

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I use Genutax, it is free. I have looked at using an accountant before because we had the house rented in UK and then we sold it. But the prices i was quoted for tax return preparation is crazy.

JonboyE Feb 22nd 2015 5:08 am

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If your income comes on T slips you can enter them into a computer program just a easily as an accountant can.

vanity Feb 22nd 2015 7:32 am

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I have some other items which I need to declare and am trying to find a good accountant - please PM is anyone knows a good one.

OP - have heard good things about Turbo and Studio.

Novocastrian Feb 22nd 2015 8:16 am

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Quicktax/Turbotax user here. Never had a problem in the several years I've used it.

Back 10+ years ago, the OH was self employed so we used an accountant for that.

BTW does anyone know if the dreaded T1135 can be done online this year?

JonboyE Feb 22nd 2015 8:40 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11573109)
BTW does anyone know if the dreaded T1135 can be done online this year?

Well, according to the instructions of the version of the form on the CRA's website individuals can electronically file the form using Netfile (available to the public) or E-file (available to professional tax preparers).

I use a program called Profile which is the market leading professional tax preparation program in Canada. It says I cannot.

Novocastrian Feb 22nd 2015 8:52 am

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Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 11573133)
Well, according to the instructions of the version of the form on the CRA's website individuals can electronically file the form using Netfile (available to the public) or E-file (available to professional tax preparers).

I use a program called Profile which is the market leading professional tax preparation program in Canada. It says I cannot.

:confused:

(But thanks anyway).

sharkus Feb 22nd 2015 9:11 am

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Used TurboTax for a bit, works pretty well. No self employed, or other weird things, so that's probably why.

BristolUK Feb 22nd 2015 9:25 am

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Originally Posted by sharkus (Post 11573161)
Used TurboTax for a bit, works pretty well. No self employed, or other weird things, so that's probably why.

Is rental income and UK superannuation weird? :lol:

MarkG Feb 22nd 2015 9:28 am

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Originally Posted by sharkus (Post 11573161)
Used TurboTax for a bit, works pretty well. No self employed, or other weird things, so that's probably why.

I had to fiddle around with it for a while to get the QROPS to work last year, but that was just a matter of working out which box in the 'tax interview' thingy it copied to which box in the RRSP schedule.

As you say, it doesn't seem to be set up to handle anything weird.

beckiwoo Feb 22nd 2015 11:23 am

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Originally Posted by JB0591 (Post 11572924)
I use Genutax, it is free. I have looked at using an accountant before because we had the house rented in UK and then we sold it. But the prices i was quoted for tax return preparation is crazy.

What kind of fees have you been quoted before?

What is H&R block like?

scilly Feb 22nd 2015 11:27 am

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we have a friend, retired single lady in her 70s who has used H&R Block for years ............. she says they have always been good, and fast.

Novocastrian Feb 22nd 2015 11:30 am

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Originally Posted by beckiwoo (Post 11573263)
What is H&R block like?

H&R Block is, like, for particularly retarded Canadians who can't read or write.

scilly Feb 22nd 2015 11:38 am

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:ohmy:

beckiwoo Feb 22nd 2015 11:41 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11573268)
H&R Block is, like, for particularly retarded Canadians who can't read or write.

Not a particularly nice comment and unhelpful for people who are submitting their taxes for the first time and just want advice.

Novocastrian Feb 22nd 2015 11:48 am

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Originally Posted by beckiwoo (Post 11573280)
Not a particularly nice comment and unhelpful for people who are submitting their taxes for the first time and just want advice.

My advice was clear. Don't use H&R Block, especially if you're filing for the first time.

They employ retired bookkeepers with negligible training and zero knowledge of anything more complicated than a T-4. Many have never heard that other countries don't conform to Canadian tax rules.

scilly Feb 22nd 2015 12:16 pm

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but your words were extremely politically incorrect ..... and unwarranted

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 22nd 2015 12:25 pm

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Always myself, too easy to go and pay someone to do it. Unless a return is complicated, I don't see the use of a professional if one has a basic income based tax return with t4's.

I use tax chopper, it's free for new folks to Canada, and for those making under 25,000 if single, and under 30,000 for married/common law folks, and I think full-time students is free as well. Never had any issues with them and the refund amount they come up with is always the same as those companies claiming they can get you more if you pay them... I just like free, why pay for software if you don't have to?

Novocastrian Feb 22nd 2015 12:27 pm

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Originally Posted by scilly (Post 11573299)
but your words were extremely politically incorrect ..... and unwarranted

Well, excuuse me Mrs.

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 22nd 2015 12:31 pm

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Originally Posted by beckiwoo (Post 11573263)
What kind of fees have you been quoted before?

What is H&R block like?

Do it yourself before paying HR Block, they are no better then what you can do yourself.

If your just have T4's and basic deductions like transit pass, its incredibly easy and simple to file, even for those doing it the first time.

Aviator Feb 22nd 2015 12:31 pm

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Originally Posted by beckiwoo (Post 11573280)
Not a particularly nice comment and unhelpful for people who are submitting their taxes for the first time and just want advice.

H & R messed up my taxes, used them once, never again. I ended up underpaying by $1000 because of their error, not knowing the difference between Nett and Gross. I found the error, filed an adjustment paid the $1000 to Revenue Canada and fought H & R for their guarantee of paying interest and penalties on any error they made. They did not cough up easily, but in the end they did pay up.

beckiwoo Feb 22nd 2015 12:46 pm

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11573310)
Do it yourself before paying HR Block, they are no better then what you can do yourself.

If your just have T4's and basic deductions like transit pass, its incredibly easy and simple to file, even for those doing it the first time.

Thanks


Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 11573311)
H & R messed up my taxes, used them once, never again. I ended up underpaying by $1000 because of their error, not knowing the difference between Nett and Gross. I found the error, filed an adjustment paid the $1000 to Revenue Canada and fought H & R for their guarantee of paying interest and penalties on any error they made. They did not cough up easily, but in the end they did pay up.

Thank you for the feedback.

I'd rather not go through that. :thumbdown:

BristolUK Feb 22nd 2015 1:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11573304)
... I just like free, why pay for software if you don't have to?

:thumbsup:


Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11573310)
Do it yourself before paying HR Block, they are no better then what you can do yourself.

We're now doing five free ones each year. (I think my mother in law had to pay once when some cashing in of some sort of policy upped her "income" that year)

It's quite tempting to go into business doing it for the neighbourhood. :rofl:

Novocastrian Feb 22nd 2015 1:17 pm

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11573325)

We're now doing five free ones each year. (I think my mother in law had to pay once when some cashing in of some sort of policy upped her "income" that year)

It's quite tempting to go into business doing it for the neighbourhood. :rofl:

Assuming no-one in your neighbourhood earns more than $25K.

izzi81 Feb 22nd 2015 1:22 pm

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I used Turbotax last year, but will be trying something else this year. The software seemed a little bit temperamental at times, though I got it done in the end and did like the format. However I also resented having to pay $100 to get a version that could handle our small business income. This year I've not decided between StudioTax and UFile. As the former is free I'm thinking about giving it a go and seeing how I get on.

ChrisBan Feb 22nd 2015 9:53 pm

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Just out of interest, what package do people who've returned to the UK during that tax year use? I find Studiotax doesn't let me select anything other than a province for residence as of December 31st and I can't leave it blank...

JonboyE Feb 23rd 2015 2:09 am

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If you were a factual tax-resident for part of 2014 you put the province you lived in before you left.

BristolUK Feb 23rd 2015 2:54 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11573325)
It's quite tempting to go into business doing it for the neighbourhood. :rofl:


Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11573337)
Assuming no-one in your neighbourhood earns more than $25K.

I don't think it's necessarily more complicated just for an income above $25k. And I didn't mean just do it for the ones that would be free.

Between us we've done UK superan income, rental income, wage only, Quebec equivalent of GIS/OAS, Canadian Superan, cashing in of whatever policy it was and a death.

It's just inputting different amounts. If it was something Joe Public was willing to do for the neighbors, just set a charge that covers the fee (or no fee) to make it worthwhile.

Send the complicated ones to johnboy. :)

Shirtback Feb 23rd 2015 3:40 am

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There are a couple of non-profit organisations here who offer free tax return services for low-income people. I've volunteered some time on that, from time to time.

I wouldn't, for free or for pay, undertake to do someone else's return, except in the supervised circumstances above. I have no qualifications other than knowing how to read & fill in forms ;). I might, for friends, sit beside 'em & "hold" their hand through the process.

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 23rd 2015 7:10 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11573337)
Assuming no-one in your neighbourhood earns more than $25K.

Wouldn't be hard in my complex, 50% of the buildings are low income units, and the others are geared to low income but not qualified for BC Housing...

I'd venture a majority make under 25,000. Not that I'd want to do their taxes.

dishwashing Feb 23rd 2015 1:08 pm

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So what is good for weird stuff :p


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