Spring general election?
Sep 15th 2006, 2:48 pm
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Re: Spring general election?
Originally Posted by iaink
The west created this situation through years of activity in Afghanistan, and has a duty to try and clean it up.
Afghanistan in the past and failed, it has a responsibility to try again to do so now. We'll fail again, and again, how many failures would satisfy that "duty" ?
Sep 15th 2006, 2:50 pm
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Re: Spring general election?
Originally Posted by iaink
If that was the case then why piss them off so royally by refusing to go gung ho into Iraq. You make no sense. You might as well argue that every vote the security council makes is dependet solely on who wants to be the USAs best mate, as they are the only superpower around now.
Its a big mess, its going to take time to sort it out. Its took 30 years or more to **** up Afghanistan, you cant fix it overnight, and you certainly wont if you turn tail when the old guard start to fight back.
Its a big mess, its going to take time to sort it out. Its took 30 years or more to **** up Afghanistan, you cant fix it overnight, and you certainly wont if you turn tail when the old guard start to fight back.
Sep 15th 2006, 2:59 pm
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Re: Spring general election?
Originally Posted by dbd33
It's centuries, not 30 years, and we can't fix it. We can only send soldiers to die there.
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Sep 15th 2006, 3:03 pm
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Re: Spring general election?
Originally Posted by Souvenir
Which is something Duceppe will probably not let Harper allow to happen if the soldiers in question are from Quebec.
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Sep 15th 2006, 3:18 pm
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Re: Spring general election?
You guys are all very opinionated about this. Pity none of you know that Canada is not in Afghanistan as a result of a UN resolution, but rather as a result of NATO invoking the collective defence clause after 911.
Sep 15th 2006, 3:23 pm
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Re: Spring general election?
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
You guys are all very opinionated about this. Pity none of you know that Canada is not in Afghanistan as a result of a UN resolution, but rather as a result of NATO invoking the collective defence clause after 911.
Sep 15th 2006, 3:28 pm
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Re: Spring general election?
Originally Posted by Souvenir
I think we are all well aware that Canada's UN days are long gone.
Sep 15th 2006, 3:32 pm
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Re: Spring general election?
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
You guys are all very opinionated about this. Pity none of you know that Canada is not in Afghanistan as a result of a UN resolution, but rather as a result of NATO invoking the collective defence clause after 911.
I dont think canadas UN days are numbered, it just seems the UN itself has no great purpose now its not a playground for the USA and USSR to clash in. It desperately needs a makeover!
Anyway, i cant see any of this triggering an election right now.
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Sep 15th 2006, 3:48 pm
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Re: Spring general election?
Originally Posted by iaink
I dont think canadas UN days are numbered
As for if and when an election comes, we can only speculate. Which is what I was doing when I started the thread.
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Sep 15th 2006, 3:51 pm
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Re: Spring general election?
Originally Posted by iaink
Fair enough, I think the UN recognised it some time in Jan 2002? The point being there was a broad international agreement that something should be done, albeit one lead by the US.
I dont think canadas UN days are numbered, it just seems the UN itself has no great purpose now its not a playground for the USA and USSR to clash in. It desperately needs a makeover!
Anyway, i cant see any of this triggering an election right now.
I dont think canadas UN days are numbered, it just seems the UN itself has no great purpose now its not a playground for the USA and USSR to clash in. It desperately needs a makeover!
Anyway, i cant see any of this triggering an election right now.
Sep 15th 2006, 3:59 pm
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Re: Spring general election?
Originally Posted by Souvenir
I'm guessing yes. The Bloc has behaved itself so far but there are now two major areas of disagreement between it and Harper:
1) the gun registry
2) Canada's involvement in Afghanistan, particularly as the Vandoos will be next up to bat.
Whatever Harper decides about the registry, he's going to lose support somewhere.
Not sending the Vandoos will make it very hard to maintain Canada's presence in Afghanistan, and screw Harper's standing with the US. Sending them will destroy Tory support in Quebec.
I don't think it will long before Duceppe pulls the plug. If he does, and throws his hat back into the Parti Quebecois ring, guess what comes next?
1) the gun registry
2) Canada's involvement in Afghanistan, particularly as the Vandoos will be next up to bat.
Whatever Harper decides about the registry, he's going to lose support somewhere.
Not sending the Vandoos will make it very hard to maintain Canada's presence in Afghanistan, and screw Harper's standing with the US. Sending them will destroy Tory support in Quebec.
I don't think it will long before Duceppe pulls the plug. If he does, and throws his hat back into the Parti Quebecois ring, guess what comes next?
Sep 15th 2006, 4:01 pm
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Re: Spring general election?
Originally Posted by iaink
I cant see it myself.
Charest doesnt appear to make any sense bringing up the gun registy in this case. The gun used was a legally registered weapon, and was nothing to do with the long gun registry in any case as assault rifles have been "restrictred weapons" since Adam was a boy. Its the usual brain dead knee jerk reaction, and does nothing to convince me that those people are fit to lead a shopping expedition, let alone a nation
Hey, maybe they should have a law about people shooting other people....Oh, hang on....never mind!
Charest doesnt appear to make any sense bringing up the gun registy in this case. The gun used was a legally registered weapon, and was nothing to do with the long gun registry in any case as assault rifles have been "restrictred weapons" since Adam was a boy. Its the usual brain dead knee jerk reaction, and does nothing to convince me that those people are fit to lead a shopping expedition, let alone a nation
Hey, maybe they should have a law about people shooting other people....Oh, hang on....never mind!
Sep 15th 2006, 4:02 pm
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Re: Spring general election?
Originally Posted by oceanMDX
I think Canada will end up having a Federal election by the end of 2007.... and the Liberals will be elected with a minority government with Bob Rae as its leader.
At least that would do away with the immigrants' complaints that they don't get enough vacation in Canada.
Sep 15th 2006, 4:04 pm
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Re: Spring general election?
Originally Posted by oceanMDX
Exactly right on.
Sep 15th 2006, 4:06 pm
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Re: Spring general election?
Originally Posted by oceanMDX
I think Canada will end up having a Federal election by the end of 2007.... and the Liberals will be elected with a minority government with Bob Rae as its leader.