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Batfink Aug 25th 2008 8:04 pm

Spider situation in Canada
 
OK, being a complete girl regarding spiders:o and having just found the biggest house spider in the world in my bathroom:ohmy:, it suddenly occured to me - what is the spider situation in Canada (NB in particular)? Do you get more of the hairy little critters... less or them... are they bigger...smaller... do they speak french .......???? Please help - as they say forewarned is forearmed and i'd like to be armed if at all possible!

bazzz Aug 25th 2008 8:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Batfink (Post 6715562)
forewarned is forearmed and i'd like to be armed if at all possible!

But four-arms is going to be no defence against their eight.

This thread might put your mind at rest:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...hlight=spiders

Well, kind of.

Batfink Aug 25th 2008 8:28 pm

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Thanks Bazzz (i think!). I'm off for a shower - can't stop itching!

Btw - liked the idea of Terro Spider Killer - can you get it in Canada - or should i stock up before i land........

pennyhp Aug 25th 2008 10:51 pm

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I tooam terrified of spiders and I live in NB.

It seems to me that it is no worse than the UK.
The house I lived in in England had far more spiders than my NB house.
Window screens may have a ot to do with that.
There are quite a few in my barn but they seem to keep themselves to themselves.

Shouldn't be any more of a problem here for you.

Anyhoo what about your "wings of steel"
Should be an impenetrable shield.:D:p

BristolUK Aug 26th 2008 1:40 am

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My wife and step daughter are petrified of them too. I hear a scream followed by a whimper and I come running, expecting to see a monster with 17 legs and fangs. Usually it's a titchy thing, no bigger than the tip of my little finger.

The vast majority in the house are barely bigger than a money spider. We've been in NB for over 3 years and I have yet to see anything approaching a fraction of the size of the typical UK house spider.

Garden spiders are smaller too.

TBH, ants are usually bigger than the house spiders.

woodmanbg Aug 26th 2008 3:00 am

Re: Spider situation in Canada
 

Originally Posted by Batfink (Post 6715562)
OK, being a complete girl regarding spiders:o and having just found the biggest house spider in the world in my bathroom:ohmy:, it suddenly occured to me - what is the spider situation in Canada (NB in particular)? Do you get more of the hairy little critters... less or them... are they bigger...smaller... do they speak french .......???? Please help - as they say forewarned is forearmed and i'd like to be armed if at all possible!

No problems here in Bragg Creek, largest spider I have seen looks a positively minute compared to the huge spiders we got in the UK.

On a couple of occasions I have gone into my daughters bedroom here and there is a piece of paper on the floor with a plastic top sitting on it and I look at her and she says please Mum can you get rid of the spider, and when I peek underneath I need to put my glasses on to see it!!!

Madmac Aug 26th 2008 3:05 am

Re: Spider situation in Canada
 

Originally Posted by Batfink (Post 6715562)
OK, being a complete girl regarding spiders:o and having just found the biggest house spider in the world in my bathroom:ohmy:, it suddenly occured to me - what is the spider situation in Canada (NB in particular)? Do you get more of the hairy little critters... less or them... are they bigger...smaller... do they speak french .......???? Please help - as they say forewarned is forearmed and i'd like to be armed if at all possible!

Leave 'em alone - they eat all the bloody mosquitoes.

MM - Member of the Spider Liberation Front of Ontario

woodmanbg Aug 26th 2008 3:13 am

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Originally Posted by Madmac (Post 6716711)
Leave 'em alone - they eat all the bloody mosquitoes.

MM - Member of the Spider Liberation Front of Ontario

Well they are not doing a very good job here!!! ;)

Madmac Aug 26th 2008 3:18 am

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Originally Posted by woodmanbg (Post 6716741)
Well they are not doing a very good job here!!! ;)

I suggest they are on a diet at your location?

Think how bad it would be without them?

woodmanbg Aug 26th 2008 4:26 am

Re: Spider situation in Canada
 

Originally Posted by Madmac (Post 6716765)
I suggest they are on a diet at your location?

Think how bad it would be without them?

I dread to think seeing as how they attack me every time I go out into the garden even with a whole can of Deep Woods on, I think they love the stuff. :)

val50 Aug 26th 2008 4:37 am

Re: Spider situation in Canada
 

Originally Posted by Batfink (Post 6715562)
OK, being a complete girl regarding spiders:o and having just found the biggest house spider in the world in my bathroom:ohmy:, it suddenly occured to me - what is the spider situation in Canada (NB in particular)? Do you get more of the hairy little critters... less or them... are they bigger...smaller... do they speak french .......???? Please help - as they say forewarned is forearmed and i'd like to be armed if at all possible!

have got loads of really big one's here in NS at the moment, the strength of the webs are amazing, stretching all across the garden. Bigger than any we used to get in South Africa:eek:

Grah Aug 26th 2008 4:39 am

Re: Spider situation in Canada
 

Originally Posted by woodmanbg (Post 6717020)
I dread to think seeing as how they attack me every time I go out into the garden even with a whole can of Deep Woods on, I think they love the stuff. :)

That's why I stopped using any form of DEET posion didn't seem to be worth spraying and still getting bites.


possible mossie posioning V actually DEET posioning -- go for the Mossie

MB-Realtor Aug 26th 2008 4:52 am

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Just read this:-

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...-4811390c.html


Must remember to tuck trousers into socks when in the wilds.

leith Aug 26th 2008 5:19 am

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If you want to get some accurate information on spiders in Canada, I suggest you email Dr. Robert Holmberg at Athabasca University. He has studied spiders extensively. His email is [email protected]

woodmanbg Aug 26th 2008 5:45 am

Re: Spider situation in Canada
 

Originally Posted by Grah (Post 6717065)
That's why I stopped using any form of DEET posion didn't seem to be worth spraying and still getting bites.


possible mossie posioning V actually DEET posioning -- go for the Mossie

Think I agree with you there, when my visitor sprayed me I was dripping in the stuff from head to toe, wonder I didnt keel over ;)

Batfink Aug 26th 2008 6:22 am

Re: Spider situation in Canada
 
Thanks for the replies everyone! Has put my mind at rest somewhat - was having visions of having to shake out my duvet every night just in case a Brown Recluse was reclining in it ( i blame the Pest Control Canada website - more or less told me that a Brown Recluse spider was gonna get me if the BLack Widow didn't beat him to it!!!!!!!

Just to clarify - no Brown Recluse's or Balck Widows in NB.....yes....???????:blink:

Bill_S Aug 26th 2008 6:35 am

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Originally Posted by Batfink (Post 6717374)
Thanks for the replies everyone! Has put my mind at rest somewhat - was having visions of having to shake out my duvet every night just in case a Brown Recluse was reclining in it ( i blame the Pest Control Canada website - more or less told me that a Brown Recluse spider was gonna get me if the BLack Widow didn't beat him to it!!!!!!!

Just to clarify - no Brown Recluse's or Balck Widows in NB.....yes....???????:blink:

You will not encounter Brown Recluse spiders in NB. In theory you might find a Black Widow, but it would be extremely unlikely IMHO.

Batfink Aug 26th 2008 6:55 am

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NOW THAT'S THE ANSWER I WAS LOOKING FOR!!!!:thumbsup:

Thank you Bill_S - i can sleep once more:wub:

Alberta_Rose Aug 26th 2008 8:25 am

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Something bit me last year and by next day my arm was swollen from above the elbow to just above the wrist. Never saw what it was that bit me but I was put on antibiotics for the cellulitis, and it subsided.

Some people told me it looked like a spider bite, and I had been walking through bush the day before ..... :unsure:

gloveman Sep 4th 2008 5:20 am

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We get loads of spiders here in BC and they have just started to appear in force in the house looking for their winter hide away. I was biten by one last year in bed and it wasn't very pleasant. Saw the bugger but never managed to catch it so it is probably still roaming around waiting. Not an expert but pretty sure it was a brown recluse. It is not unusual to find them in the sink - in fact this time of year we are more likely to find one in the kitchen sink than not first thing in the morning and they can be rather big.

MIL says you can get things that you plug in the mains and they send out a high pitch sound that scares them off. Someone else once suggested chestnuts! Anyone found anything that helps to keep them away, please?

JonboyE Sep 4th 2008 5:50 am

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Originally Posted by gloveman (Post 6749012)
Not an expert but pretty sure it was a brown recluse.

It is very unlikely. Brown recluse spiders are native to south eastern US.

AndyBCbound Sep 4th 2008 6:14 am

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Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 6749128)
It is very unlikely. Brown recluse spiders are native to south eastern US.

Going off on a tangent a bit here, but does any one know the name of the spider that lerks under toilet seats and bites you on the ass, cant remember for the life of me:confused:

moondevil Sep 4th 2008 6:20 am

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What the funnel web one's :lol:

i cant wait for the buyers of my house to see our residents here, i havent a clue where they are coming from, but WOW are they big :unsure:
Even OH doent like them, as they come out when the kids are in bed :curse:

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Rich_007 Sep 4th 2008 6:22 am

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I had a nest of 200 baby black widow in the yard, and a few adults in the garage. More than the previous two years, for sure.

It's no biggie. Vacuum the garage out regularly. Just be sure to garden with gloves on, and don't poke things you shouldn't :sneaky:

The latter being a general rule of life. :zzz:

R.

Rich_007 Sep 4th 2008 6:23 am

Re: Spider situation in Canada
 

Originally Posted by gloveman (Post 6749012)
Anyone found anything that helps to keep them away, please?

Cats.
A hammer.
Fire.
Flood.

Always happy to help.

R.

moondevil Sep 4th 2008 6:25 am

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My OH says hes size 11 feet :wink_smile:

AndyBCbound Sep 4th 2008 6:27 am

Re: Spider situation in Canada
 

Originally Posted by moondevil (Post 6749240)
What the funnel web one's :lol:

i cant wait for the buyers of my house to see our residents here, i havent a clue where they are coming from, but WOW are they big :unsure:
Even OH doent like them, as they come out when the kids are in bed :curse:

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

i thought it was called a wolf ..erm... or something like that:confused:

AndyBCbound Sep 4th 2008 6:28 am

Re: Spider situation in Canada
 

Originally Posted by moondevil (Post 6749240)
What the funnel web one's :lol:

i cant wait for the buyers of my house to see our residents here, i havent a clue where they are coming from, but WOW are they big :unsure:
Even OH doent like them, as they come out when the kids are in bed :curse:

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Is the funnel web the one that causes all the car crashes:eek:

moondevil Sep 4th 2008 6:33 am

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AndyBCbound Sep 4th 2008 6:36 am

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Originally Posted by moondevil (Post 6749311)
wolf spiders

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THATS THE BUGGERS!!:eek::eek:Any of those in BC:confused:

gloveman Sep 4th 2008 6:41 am

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Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 6749128)
It is very unlikely. Brown recluse spiders are native to south eastern US.

Sorry JonboyE - I usually take what you say to be right and value your input but in this case you are wrong. We most definitely have brown recluse spiders on Vancouver Island and they are not uncommon. We also get hobo spiders and they are nasty litle devils too.

pennyhp Sep 4th 2008 6:44 am

Re: Spider situation in Canada
 

Originally Posted by gloveman (Post 6749012)
We get loads of spiders here in BC and they have just started to appear in force in the house looking for their winter hide away. I was biten by one last year in bed and it wasn't very pleasant. Saw the bugger but never managed to catch it so it is probably still roaming around waiting. Not an expert but pretty sure it was a brown recluse. It is not unusual to find them in the sink - in fact this time of year we are more likely to find one in the kitchen sink than not first thing in the morning and they can be rather big.

MIL says you can get things that you plug in the mains and they send out a high pitch sound that scares them off. Someone else once suggested chestnuts! Anyone found anything that helps to keep them away, please?

I saw a spider documentary with Johnny Rotten and he interviewed a man about Brown Recluse spiders. He said they like to hide in old books and paperwork and stuff.
The bite of the Brown Recluse is necrotising (sp) so it would leave part of the flesh rotting. Was it like that?:ohmy::eek:

gloveman Sep 4th 2008 6:48 am

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Originally Posted by pennyhp (Post 6749353)
I saw a spider documentary with Johnny Rotten and he interviewed a man about Brown Recluse spiders. He said they like to hide in old books and paperwork and stuff.
The bite of the Brown Recluse is necrotising (sp) so it would leave part of the flesh rotting. Was it like that?:ohmy::eek:

I had what looked like a small volcano on my arm which erupted green/yellow stuff for a few weeks. I felt like I had the flu for a couple of weeks too. It wasn't very nice but nothing like as bad as it could have been. Still have the scar to prove it.

Lychee Sep 4th 2008 6:56 am

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Originally Posted by AndyBCbound (Post 6749322)
THATS THE BUGGERS!!:eek::eek:Any of those in BC:confused:

Oh yes, certainly! In the Vancouver and coastal areas, you see wolf spiders. Rarely in the open - they like the dark, dry, safe areas.

I see you're heading to Kamloops. Kamloops is a completely different climate zone than Vancouver, so I don't know what the wolf spider situation is like in Kamloops, but if you're heading to Vancouver, you may see one eventually!

Edit: Hrmmm... just found this link: http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=3162

AndyBCbound Sep 4th 2008 7:03 am

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Originally Posted by Lychee (Post 6749395)
Oh yes, certainly! In the Vancouver and coastal areas, you see wolf spiders. Rarely in the open - they like the dark, dry, safe areas.

I see you're heading to Kamloops. Kamloops is a completely different climate zone than Vancouver, so I don't know what the wolf spider situation is like in Kamloops, but if you're heading to Vancouver, you may see one eventually!

Edit: Hrmmm... just found this link: http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=3162

Are there any side effect from abite from a wolf spider? Only asking cause my 4 year old loves spiders and keeps picking them up to play with:eek:

moondevil Sep 4th 2008 7:05 am

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RIGHT thats it after doing a search they are also alot in alberta :curse:

OFF to find what kills the things, so i can stick them in my boxes to follow as well :curse:

AndyBCbound Sep 4th 2008 7:09 am

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Originally Posted by moondevil (Post 6749420)
RIGHT thats it after doing a search they are also alot in alberta :curse:

OFF to find what kills the things, so i can stick them in my boxes to follow as well :curse:

Not to mention the BEARS:eek:But does Bear spray work on them:confused:

gloveman Sep 4th 2008 7:11 am

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Originally Posted by moondevil (Post 6749420)
RIGHT thats it after doing a search they are also alot in alberta :curse:

OFF to find what kills the things, so i can stick them in my boxes to follow as well :curse:

Lots of things kill them as Rich_007 kindly pointed out - you need to find something that stop the dam critters wanting to share a home with you in the first place. It's alright killing the ones you see but what about all the others that you don't!

AndyBCbound Sep 4th 2008 7:18 am

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Originally Posted by gloveman (Post 6749436)
Lots of things kill them as Rich_007 kindly pointed out - you need to find something that stop the dam critters wanting to share a home with you in the first place. It's alright killing the ones you see but what about all the others that you don't!

I'll second that,what about the ones you can't see,:eek: especially the ones lurkin under the bed while you sleep the crawl over the quilt and up on the pillow........(to the sound of JAWS):eek::eek:

JonboyE Sep 4th 2008 7:20 am

Re: Spider situation in Canada
 

Originally Posted by gloveman (Post 6749344)
Sorry JonboyE - I usually take what you say to be right and value your input but in this case you are wrong. We most definitely have brown recluse spiders on Vancouver Island and they are not uncommon. We also get hobo spiders and they are nasty litle devils too.

I did say unlikely, not impossible. I freely admit to have been wrong about many things, many times.

I also don't claim any particular expertise on bugs but, because I am not at all keen on spiders either, I did do some research. This is one comment I read. If was on a bulletin board so I don't know the background of the author (my emphasis):

Take, for example, the Hobo Spider - Tegenaria agrestis - also known as the Aggressive House Spider, a funnel weaver which was introduced to Vancouver Island, Canada in the early 20th century from Europe, and has spread throughout the Northwestern United States. It too causes necrotic arachnidism, and even death, when the envenomation or individual reaction is severe.

For much of the 20th century, it's bite was misdiagnosed by the vast majority of medical professionals as the bite of the brown recluse, a spider that doesn't even exist within 500 miles of the range of the Hobo. Entomologists knew this, but since the prescribed medical treament for a brown recluse bite had always worked, no one in the medical profession bothered to question the matter further.


From wikipedia (yes, I know):

The brown recluse spider is native to the United States from the southern Midwest south to the Gulf of Mexico .[2] The native range lies roughly south of a line from southeastern Nebraska through southern Iowa, Illinois, and Indiana to southwestern Ohio. In the southern states, it is native from central Texas to western Georgia. They are generally not found west of the Rocky Mountains.[3] A related species, the brown violin spider (Loxosceles rufescens), is found in Hawaii.[4] Despite many rumors to the contrary, the brown recluse spider has not established itself in California,[5] nor Canada[6]. There are other species of Loxosceles native to the southwestern part of the United States, including California, that may resemble the brown recluse, but these species have never been documented as medically significant.

The reference given for [6] is Vetter, R.S. (2008) Spiders of the genus Loxosceles (Araneae, Sicariidae): a review of biological, medical and psychological aspects regarding envenomations. The Journal of Arachnology 36:150–163


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