Hi all

scrap that last question I have found the answer and there is no way we take the business visa route.

I would just like to ask, my daughter has absolutely no medical costs at all.

Her costs are educational, is this the same thing?

Would it make any difference if we intended to put her through private school?

And finally what costs would we incur to get to the medical assessment stage of things if we decide to go ahead?

Thanks

In the Mad Hatter's Tea Party that is Canadian immigration, the answer is, "Yes."

Not necessarily.

The permanent residence (PR) application fee for your family would be C$1,250. That would be $550 for your husband, $550 for you, and $150 for your daughter. If you have any children besides the daughter whom you've mentioned, it would cost an additional $150 for each of those children.

At some point you would need to get police checks done. That would be roughly around the time that your medicals were done. Based on past posts on the forum, I seem to recall that UK police checks would cost in the order of £60 (£30 for each of you and your husband).

If you had lived in any other country during adulthood, you would need to get a police check from every country in which you'd lived for six months or more. If you were living in Canada at the time that you lodged your application, you'd need to request a police check from Canada as well. I don't know if it costs more for a police check for immigration purposes. I'm about to get a police check done in order to join an organization that wants to be sure none of its members is dodgy. I've been told it will cost me $20.

But your PR application won't be your first application. Because of the nature of the beast, you will have had to submit some other type of application before that.

You could enter Canada on temporary work permits (TWPs), and later apply for an upgrade to PR status. At the PR stage you would incur the $1,250 application fee that I mentioned above. The TWP applications would cost $425 ($150 for your husband, $150 for you, and $125 for your daughter's study permit).

If you wanted to work on a TWP, I believe you'd need to undergo a medical. People who work with vulnerable populations (children, the elderly, sick people, etc.) have to pass medicals. Your husband most likely would not be asked to do one. Your daughter almost certainly would not be asked to undergo a medical at the TWP stage.

Based on previous posts on the forum, a "normal" family that doesn't have to produce any additional evidence can expect to spend in the order of £200 - £250 per person for immigration medical exams in the UK.

At the PR application stage, all of you would have to incur those costs for medical exams. At the TWP application stage, only you would have to incur that cost, if you wanted to work in your field in Canada. (And that's a guess on my part. I don't know that for certain. But my guess feels reasonable to me.)

If you went down the PNP road towards PR, I don't know what additional costs you'd incur. I looked at the Alberta Immigrant Nominee Program (AINP) website, and didn't find any mention of application fees. It's possible that there is no application fee at the provincial level. However, if AINP includes an interim step that would get you into Canada on TWPs, you would need to pay the TWP and study permit application fees at that point ($425, as mentioned above).

There are other incidental expenses -- photographs, the cost of sending documents to Canadian immigration authorities by courier, etc., etc.

Realistically, I would add the cost of a recce trip. That would be a few thousand dollars.

Even if you don't go on a recce trip, your husband will have to find a job. These days immigration to Canada is contingent on getting a job offer. Job hunting will involve some long distance phone calls and related expenses.

I'm just going to pull a number out of the air and say that you'd spend somewhere in the order of $3,000 if you don't do a recce trip and an additional, say, $10,000 if you do a recce trip.

Edited to add that I got mixed up when I added costs that were expressed in dollars and pounds. On reflection, I would guess that the costs other than a recce trip might be closer to $4,000 - $5,000.
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Thats great info thanks!

deb,
med,ed and ss seem to be taken into account for 'burden' rulings - so in theory any entitlement to benefits (such as DLA over here or respite/ direct payments) as well as spec schooling or ms schooling support (TA), SLT, physio, OT, CAMHS etc (you said GDD - not sure if there any services other than SLT your daughter accesses). The 'medical' point is a bit of a misnomer - it is just the start point of the calculation
For what it's worth, we have chosen to use an immigration consultant (purely because we know our case will not be straightforward). Most people don't bother but you might want to e-mail a few and test the water in case you want that type of back-up support (it shouldn't alter the outcome of your application, other than to provide more specialist advice if you run into trouble further down the line).
As ever, Judy has been very thorough!
TWP is a really brave way to go - we are still weighing up the pros and cons with a couple of jobs, but aren't quite brave enough to chance having to come back two years down the line and find ourselves at the back of the job and therapy queue... yet. Who knows what we'll decide next month
Happy reading!
Dx

oh, the private school question - in theory it wouldn't make any difference - the original Hilewitz or de Jong ruling (can't remember which) had a private charity school willing to provide free education for the child. It was discounted by the judge as no offer to educate privately could be made legally binding - no such waiver exists for immigration purposes. In fact in one of those cases the principal applicant of the family was actually an Investor going into the country to set up a special school iirc... although one of the BE members has an immigration consultant that believes it may now be accepted as mitigating circs in additional classes... no way of knowing until you reach decision point

It's a possibility though, even after reaching Canadian soil - read Kate White's experience here.

Here's something to think about. I have a profoundly autistic daughter who was born in Canada. We assume that the last surviving parent will move back to Europe so that, when we're gone, she will be provided for by a government that makes provision for the disabled. I don't know how much you should be pushing to get here.

Its a good point and one we are considering.