Sodding Builders
Jun 7th 2006 | 1:28 am
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Re: Sodding Builders
Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
Out of interest.
Are you a qualified lawyer practicing in Alberta?
Are you a qualified lawyer practicing in Alberta?
Jun 7th 2006 | 1:30 am
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Re: Sodding Builders
Originally Posted by Covenant
Sorry no, Lol! I work as a Building Surveyor in the UK.
OK just checking.
Jun 7th 2006 | 2:51 am
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Re: Sodding Builders
Thanks for the words of advise. We are having a meeting with them to discuss what is (not) going on this afternoon. Hope it's just delays due to shortages of trades, rather than anything more sinister. Let's hope that the bribary of gifts for their new baby works 
We really don't want to walk (allow ourselves to be pushed) away from them because they really do produce really beautiful houses at a fair price. If you were to look at the development where our new house is being built you would see 4 show homes under constuction by various builders, 2 nice but boring, 1 mausoleam plus theirs which really stands out as a little bit different with style.
We really don't want to walk (allow ourselves to be pushed) away from them because they really do produce really beautiful houses at a fair price. If you were to look at the development where our new house is being built you would see 4 show homes under constuction by various builders, 2 nice but boring, 1 mausoleam plus theirs which really stands out as a little bit different with style.
Jun 7th 2006 | 2:55 am
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Re: Sodding Builders
Originally Posted by Posidrive
Thanks for the words of advise. We are having a meeting with them to discuss what is (not) going on this afternoon. Hope it's just delays due to shortages of trades, rather than anything more sinister. Let's hope that the bribary of gifts for their new baby works
We really don't want to walk (allow ourselves to be pushed) away from them because they really do produce really beautiful houses at a fair price. If you were to look at the development where our new house is being built you would see 4 show homes under constuction by various builders, 2 nice but boring, 1 mausoleam plus theirs which really stands out as a little bit different with style.
We really don't want to walk (allow ourselves to be pushed) away from them because they really do produce really beautiful houses at a fair price. If you were to look at the development where our new house is being built you would see 4 show homes under constuction by various builders, 2 nice but boring, 1 mausoleam plus theirs which really stands out as a little bit different with style.
Jun 7th 2006 | 2:58 am
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Re: Sodding Builders
Originally Posted by Posidrive
Thanks for the words of advise. We are having a meeting with them to discuss what is (not) going on this afternoon. Hope it's just delays due to shortages of trades, rather than anything more sinister. Let's hope that the bribary of gifts for their new baby works
But I can wish you the best of luck for your upcoming meeting this afternoon.
We have friends in a similar situation, signed a contract late last summer for a build this spring and all they have so far are foundations and promises of further work soon.
This is in Lynx Ridge is this anywhere close to your new home?
Cheers
Steve
Jun 7th 2006 | 3:00 am
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Re: Sodding Builders
Originally Posted by Hangman
I can't really add any more to this thread than what others already have done.
But I can wish you the best of luck for your upcoming meeting this afternoon.
We have friends in a similar situation, signed a contract late last summer for a build this spring and all they have so far are foundations and promises of further work soon.
This is in Lynx Ridge is this anywhere close to your new home?
Cheers
Steve
But I can wish you the best of luck for your upcoming meeting this afternoon.
We have friends in a similar situation, signed a contract late last summer for a build this spring and all they have so far are foundations and promises of further work soon.
This is in Lynx Ridge is this anywhere close to your new home?
Cheers
Steve
I thought a two month delay was Bad. (Yes I've actually got a completion date!!!)
Anybody Beat Posi Or Steves Friends as far as delays on New Builds go?
Lynx Ridge is worth waiting for though Steve you have to admit. (if you wanna be in the city boundaries
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Jun 7th 2006 | 3:02 am
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Re: Sodding Builders
Girls and boys, say after me, "Alberta Advantage."
Seriously, Posidrive, I feel for you and have sent karma. All the best for your meeting with the builder.
Seriously, Posidrive, I feel for you and have sent karma. All the best for your meeting with the builder.
Jun 7th 2006 | 3:05 am
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Re: Sodding Builders
Originally Posted by Covenant
A contract is between two parties, both parties have to agree to the terms of the contract, this includes things like start and completion dates, this is common on all commercial building contracts, and most larger builders are aware of this, most builders will bully you into accepting second best, you don't have to do this.
Too often the layman tends to think that the application of law and the drafting of legal letters is complicated, it is not, you just have to make sure that you know your rights and the basics of contract law. It's not that difficult, but my apologies if I have simplified the case.
If a builder is insisting on not agreeing to a firm completion date, then the option is to walk way or agree a sliding scale of financial penalties.
I do accept however that the shortage of decent builders does mean that one is not always in the best negotiating position.
Too often the layman tends to think that the application of law and the drafting of legal letters is complicated, it is not, you just have to make sure that you know your rights and the basics of contract law. It's not that difficult, but my apologies if I have simplified the case.
If a builder is insisting on not agreeing to a firm completion date, then the option is to walk way or agree a sliding scale of financial penalties.
I do accept however that the shortage of decent builders does mean that one is not always in the best negotiating position.
It's obvious that Alberta, in its current incarnation, is a very different playing field from what you're used to.
Jun 7th 2006 | 3:06 am
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Re: Sodding Builders
Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary
This reminds me of George "Bring 'em on" Bush.
It's obvious that Alberta, in its current incarnation, is a very different playing field from what you're used to.
It's obvious that Alberta, in its current incarnation, is a very different playing field from what you're used to.
Jun 7th 2006 | 3:10 am
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Re: Sodding Builders
Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
Which was prompted my earlier question
Jun 7th 2006 | 3:11 am
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Re: Sodding Builders
Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary
Yeah, but you were too much of a wuss.
Jun 7th 2006 | 3:19 am
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Re: Sodding Builders
Originally Posted by Hangman
I can't really add any more to this thread than what others already have done.
But I can wish you the best of luck for your upcoming meeting this afternoon.
We have friends in a similar situation, signed a contract late last summer for a build this spring and all they have so far are foundations and promises of further work soon.
This is in Lynx Ridge is this anywhere close to your new home?
Cheers
Steve
But I can wish you the best of luck for your upcoming meeting this afternoon.
We have friends in a similar situation, signed a contract late last summer for a build this spring and all they have so far are foundations and promises of further work soon.
This is in Lynx Ridge is this anywhere close to your new home?
Cheers
Steve
We don't even have a hole yet 
Who are your friends building with?
Jun 7th 2006 | 3:22 am
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Re: Sodding Builders
Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
The trick is to sympathise with them (shortage of trades etc). Then hit them with how you having to ferry the kids to school for yet another semester AND how the kids are missing out on after school activities\sports!!
Jun 7th 2006 | 3:24 am
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Re: Sodding Builders
[QUOTE=Judy in Calgary]This reminds me of George "Bring 'em on" Bush.
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Ouch! that's a bit below the belt!:scared:
I do appreciate that there are differences in the way things work in different countries, but I (rashly) assumed that the law is still robust enough to support you when things go wrong.
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Ouch! that's a bit below the belt!:scared:
I do appreciate that there are differences in the way things work in different countries, but I (rashly) assumed that the law is still robust enough to support you when things go wrong.
Jun 7th 2006 | 3:30 am
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Re: Sodding Builders
Originally Posted by Posidrive
Our new home is just North of Cochrane, although our builders have done a lot of houses in Lynx Ridge. What are foundations We don't even have a hole yet
Who are your friends building with?
We don't even have a hole yet Who are your friends building with?
They seem to be ok with the delays so far. Partly I think because the value of their current home keeps escalating with the delays and they haven't even put it up for sale yet.
They have tried very hard so far to do everything when they have been asked i.e. arranged the electrical, sorted all the light fittings, sorted the kitchen cabinets, etc, etc, all that kind of stuff, so the builder cannot come back and say you have held us up because you can't make a decision.
Last time we were by their site there was a pile of lumber in front so hopefully they have started framing by now.
