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G77 Mar 24th 2008 1:02 am

Re: IT Skilled workers
 
Is ITIL recognised/wanted in Canada?

Dave+Jules Mar 24th 2008 2:28 am

Re: IT Skilled workers
 

Originally Posted by G77 (Post 6104070)
Is ITIL recognised/wanted in Canada?


Yes and Yes, Canada is generally behind the UK and outsourcing is taking off in a big way to reduce costs for local governments. So ITIL is becoming a key selling point for suppliers.

seanyg Mar 24th 2008 6:09 am

Re: IT Skilled workers
 

Originally Posted by BritInCan (Post 6101171)
Hi

I am an IT professional and have been through the skilled worker route to get into Canada. I'm now running my own IT business in Calgary.

If any of you IT guys want to get in touch I might be able to give you some pointers etc. plus we are always on the look out for good people.......

and by the way, its worth the wait!

you mean you got in WITHOUT a job offer?? many people on this forum would have you believe that's nigh-on impossible...

seanyg Mar 24th 2008 6:13 am

Re: IT Skilled workers
 

Originally Posted by xxalxx (Post 6103615)
it most certainly is, it provides hope to the rest of us, tho everyone else seems to be software instead of hardware like me :(

i know how you feel - sean's hardware too and when people hear you're in IT they go on about the LMO exemption and how IT's easy to find jobs in, and then you realise they're talking about software :-(

anita (remaining positive-minded for a job offer netherless!)

Dave+Jules Mar 24th 2008 8:59 am

Re: IT Skilled workers
 

Originally Posted by seanyg (Post 6105126)
you mean you got in WITHOUT a job offer?? many people on this forum would have you believe that's nigh-on impossible...

I arrived without a Job Offer it just took 2 years using the Skilled Worker visa method. But once here I had a job offer within a week and started work 16 days after landing ....

Coffeepot Mar 24th 2008 9:09 am

Re: IT Skilled workers
 

Originally Posted by Dave+Jules (Post 6105705)
I arrived without a Job Offer it just took 2 years using the Skilled Worker visa method. But once here I had a job offer within a week and started work 16 days after landing ....

Those were the days when you could get there on a skilled worker application in under half a century, if i thought we could get there in 2 years with ours i would be over the moon,

trouncer Mar 24th 2008 10:00 am

Re: IT Skilled workers
 
Hi all. Been reading through a lot of this thread. Wish there was an equivalent 'Dave+Jules' contact and advisor for Vancouver which is where I'm heading. I too am also more hardware (senior networking analyst for a major bank in the UK) so not a software guy :( . What is there for us hardware guys ?!!!

Also my CCNA expired 3 yrs ago. Would it still be useful to mention ? The fact it expired doesn't mean I'm any less capable, just bad at exams. Any suggestions ? (btw, I have a BSc. in Computer Studies, HND in Telecoms and experience in working for a global brand bank, BT and cable companies). What do you think my chances are in downtown Vancouver ?

Just don't understand how people do it or manage to get jobs before landing. I've applied so many times from the UK (resume amended and modified a few times).

I'm willing to work at any level (eg. Network operations ? Controller ? Co ordinator ? but not great as a fielld eng I'm afraid), as I feel beggers can't be choosers and we all gotta live, eat and sleep.

Any comments and suggestions/advice welcome.

G77 Mar 24th 2008 10:13 am

Re: IT Skilled workers
 

Originally Posted by trouncer (Post 6105966)
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Any comments and suggestions/advice welcome.

If you work for a global brand bank - is there no chance of an intra-company transfer with them?

trouncer Mar 24th 2008 10:22 am

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No. I tried that route and you have to have an appraisal with 'god-like' marks to qualify for a secondment. Also those secondments were very few and far between. Besides that. I dont work for the bank anymore and now work for a smaller but still global company. Unfortunatley they dont have any Canadian offices (altho they do in Australia but offices as in 3 or 4 people).

Airseir Mar 25th 2008 7:54 am

Re: IT Skilled workers
 

Originally Posted by seanyg (Post 6105126)
you mean you got in WITHOUT a job offer?? many people on this forum would have you believe that's nigh-on impossible...

I got my Skilled worker Visa without a job offer - I didnt apply for Jobs until I got the Visa - the Job offer came one month after the Visa.

Andrea&Mark Mar 25th 2008 8:33 am

Re: IT Skilled workers
 

Originally Posted by BritInCan (Post 6101171)
Hi

I am an IT professional and have been through the skilled worker route to get into Canada. I'm now running my own IT business in Calgary.

If any of you IT guys want to get in touch I might be able to give you some pointers etc. plus we are always on the look out for good people.......

and by the way, its worth the wait!

Hi

I have PM'd you

Andrea & Family

DAVIE_MAC Mar 25th 2008 10:11 am

Re: IT Skilled workers
 

Originally Posted by Dave+Jules (Post 6104370)
Yes and Yes, Canada is generally behind the UK and outsourcing is taking off in a big way to reduce costs for local governments. So ITIL is becoming a key selling point for suppliers.

Thats good to know.

What about PRINCE2 is there a big demand for this qual in project management in Canada or is it more Six Sigma as I think I read somewhere ages ago.

Cheers Dave

jandro Mar 25th 2008 2:39 pm

Re: IT Skilled workers
 

Originally Posted by trouncer (Post 6105966)
Also my CCNA expired 3 yrs ago. Would it still be useful to mention ? The fact it expired doesn't mean I'm any less capable, just bad at exams. Any suggestions ? (btw, I have a BSc. in Computer Studies, HND in Telecoms and experience in working for a global brand bank, BT and cable companies). What do you think my chances are in downtown Vancouver ?

Just don't understand how people do it or manage to get jobs before landing. I've applied so many times from the UK (resume amended and modified a few times).

I'm willing to work at any level (eg. Network operations ? Controller ? Co ordinator ? but not great as a fielld eng I'm afraid), as I feel beggers can't be choosers and we all gotta live, eat and sleep.

Any comments and suggestions/advice welcome.

A BSc in Computer Studies should hold you in good stead. I'd also recommend upgrading your certifications as certs, degrees and diplomas are generally more important than in the UK. Your complaint of no response is a common one. At my tech company even the level 1 support have degrees, are bilingual etc. Competition for good jobs here can be fierce. I also see a lot of people getting their foot in the door because they knew so and so who works there. Cronyism and nepotism are rife unfortunately.

trouncer Mar 25th 2008 9:31 pm

Re: IT Skilled workers
 
Thanks for the response Jandro (any other comments are more than welcome).

The prospect of fierce competition is quite daunting. I've also hear nepotism and cronyism is also quite rife too, but how does someone who has just arrived get to know about positions and jobs ? Without knowing anyone, how does one start a network of contacts. I know advice can be found on this website but I'd like to know some real life experiences and examples if possible.

I'll try getting re-certified but I'm bad at exams. I have years of experience and skills to offer though ! :)

Dave+Jules Mar 26th 2008 5:53 am

Re: IT Skilled workers
 

Originally Posted by DAVIE_MAC (Post 6110980)
Thats good to know.

What about PRINCE2 is there a big demand for this qual in project management in Canada or is it more Six Sigma as I think I read somewhere ages ago.

Cheers Dave

PRINCE2 awareness is growing, Boston and Toronto Universities are now exam centres (I also think that Ottawa has one too). I believe than in the next 2 years your will see a brising demand for PRINCE2 skills. so if you are emigrating as a PM, get this certifications in the UK and join the PMI and sit their PMP certification (which is seen as a must have here in Canada).


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