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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by Dorothy
(Post 10549830)
Perhaps, but we Canadians are taught grammar in our inferior education system. We know that lacks is not a contraction, so should therefore not contain an apostrophe. We are also taught where a full stop is required. ;)
Not where I'm from they're not. My daughter's 7th grade teacher (British import here in Australia) kept calling my daughter "the American girl" and insisted that Canada was part of the US when she corrected her. She argued with my daughter that she must be American and hold an American passport. My husband and I had to go to the school to straighten her out. Ignorant teachers, like ignoramuses in general are found everywhere. |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by Dorothy
(Post 10549830)
Perhaps, but we Canadians are taught grammar in our inferior education system. We know that lacks is not a contraction, so should therefore not contain an apostrophe. We are also taught where a full stop is required. ;)
Not where I'm from they're not. My daughter's 7th grade teacher (British import here in Australia) kept calling my daughter "the American girl" and insisted that Canada was part of the US when she corrected her. She argued with my daughter that she must be American and hold an American passport. My husband and I had to go to the school to straighten her out. Ignorant teachers, like ignoramuses in general are found everywhere. Anyway, I'm off to hunt a Walrus and drag it back to the Igloo to feed the family. |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by Auld Yin
(Post 10547369)
Money is not the root of all evil, it's the LOVE of money that's the root of all evil.
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Went for interview yesterday for glazier/ cladder job.
Got offered position of industrial cladder in Calgary. Got to wait a couple of weeks now for all the confirmation to arrive. Best be going shopping for all my thermals |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by Dorothy
(Post 10549830)
Perhaps, but we Canadians are taught grammar in our inferior education system. We know that lacks is not a contraction, so should therefore not contain an apostrophe. We are also taught where a full stop is required. ;)
If you look at latest global stats, you have a better chance of a better education in the UK than here, and we all know how bad most of the Brits heading here think our educational system is But take away the averaging behaviour of the stats, the odds on getting a crap teacher are probably the same, but the chances of running into unionized mentality and the resulting minimum effort, work to rule or a strike is probably higher here. |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by HannahN
(Post 10549822)
$80,000 to $90,000 would be a good wage in some location but it would be not if you were living around Vancouver area.
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 10550897)
People struggle by on it.
Would that be adequate to "get by" comfortably in other states (ie Alberta) - I know that standard of living will dictate how far it will go but is $80,000 enough (my "sums" would suggest that for me, it is but someone living in Canada would be better placed to give an accurate opinion) or is it financial suicide? |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by energysolutions
(Post 10550975)
Do you mean in Vancouver (with higher property prices) its a struggle? So how much of a struggle is it? (or are you kidding)?
Would that be adequate to "get by" comfortably in other states (ie Alberta) - I know that standard of living will dictate how far it will go but is $80,000 enough (my "sums" would suggest that for me, it is but someone living in Canada would be better placed to give an accurate opinion) or is it financial suicide? The whole "how much is enough?" question is so subjective. It depends so much on what you decide to spend your money on. I can see that if this is a sole income with a family in expensive sports programs, a mortgage and car payments and so on, you will need to budget carefully. However, I know plenty of families that manage just fine on less. For a single person renting downtown it can, IMO, provide a great lifestyle. For a couple both earning that it is more money than I could shake a blunt stick at. But it has to be said that my assessment reflects my priorities, needs and wants. As you suggest, the problem with Vancouver is that real-estate is so expensive compared to many parts of Canada. Otherwise, AFAIK, cost of living is roughly the same. I have not lived in Alberta so I don't want to pretend that I can give you an accurate opinion. However, I expect I would be OK on $80k in anywhere other than Fort McMurry. P.S. Provinces, not states. |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 10551034)
Mostly kidding. $80k - $90k is a decent salary by Vancouver standards.
The whole "how much is enough?" question is so subjective. It depends so much on what you decide to spend your money on. I can see that if this is a sole income with a family in expensive sports programs, a mortgage and car payments and so on, you will need to budget carefully. However, I know plenty of families that manage just fine on less. For a single person renting downtown it can, IMO, provide a great lifestyle. For a couple both earning that it is more money than I could shake a blunt stick at. But it has to be said that my assessment reflects my priorities, needs and wants. As you suggest, the problem with Vancouver is that real-estate is so expensive compared to many parts of Canada. Otherwise, AFAIK, cost of living is roughly the same. I have not lived in Alberta so I don't want to pretend that I can give you an accurate opinion. However, I expect I would be OK on $80k in anywhere other than Fort McMurry. P.S. Provinces, not states. As usual a well rounded and logical answer, I share your sentiments regarding lifestyle and as I have mentioned my sums would indicate a reasonable standard of living but your reassurance is comforting I did a "Hard Yakka" calculation for something earlier, ie find out the potential price of the item in each country then take your potential salaries (UK & Canada) after tax, divide that figure by 365 (ie days per year) which will then give a £/$ per day figure which you then divide into the price of the item you desire That will outline how many days work/salary it will take to buy that item For me, in the UK it would be 358 days and Canada would be 185 (almost half) I doubt every item will be as favourable for Canada (some may well even show the UK as better value) but I found it very interesting |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by energysolutions
(Post 10550975)
Would that be adequate to "get by" comfortably in other states (ie Alberta) - I know that standard of living will dictate how far it will go but is $80,000 enough (my "sums" would suggest that for me, it is but someone living in Canada would be better placed to give an accurate opinion) or is it financial suicide?
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by christmasoompa
(Post 10551270)
Depends on the lifestyle you want and how many in your family. Single person, no problem. Family of five? Struggle imo.
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by energysolutions
(Post 10551096)
Lesson learned:o
As usual a well rounded and logical answer, I share your sentiments regarding lifestyle and as I have mentioned my sums would indicate a reasonable standard of living but your reassurance is comforting I did a "Hard Yakka" calculation for something earlier, ie find out the potential price of the item in each country then take your potential salaries (UK & Canada) after tax, divide that figure by 365 (ie days per year) which will then give a £/$ per day figure which you then divide into the price of the item you desire That will outline how many days work/salary it will take to buy that item For me, in the UK it would be 358 days and Canada would be 185 (almost half) I doubt every item will be as favourable for Canada (some may well even show the UK as better value) but I found it very interesting item prices in the Uk include tax, In Canada tax is added on afterwards We have sales taxes, so you pay tax even on second hand goods, and very little is tax exempt And don't forget with out the right insurance, dental and medical expenses can be very very painful |
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I just wanted to say a quick thanks to all who have posted in this thread. I was considering moving to Canada and have found the info provided really useful. :)
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We both like it here very much, but then we've no kids to worry about which makes it easier. My advice would be to do plenty of research, visit and save as much money as you can, not just what you think you'll need.
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Living in Vancouver, I would say that a family of 6 with an income of $80-90,000 a year would find it difficult to find a place to buy and to sustain a mortgage.
Housing costs go up and up every year. As an example .............. a small house (bungalow type) on a 33' x 120' lot on a residential street in the southern part of Vancouver, 2 bedrooms, 2 full bathrooms (1 en-suite), and a full height basement was valued at OVER $1 million in January of this year. That was an increase over last year's assessment of around $200,000 That high value is largely due to the value of the land ............. the house is basically worth nothing If that little house were to go onto the market tomorrow, it would be bought by a developer who would knock it down, and build a 2 storey + basement house, probably 4 or 5 bedrooms and 3 or 4 bathrooms ............. and it would then go on the market for over $2 million, possibly as much as $2.5 million The new house would still only be about 27' wide by about 80/85' deep The reason for the very high cost of land is because Vancouver cannot expand, it has all the land that it will ever have ..... that's because it is surrounded by water on 3 sides, and by another city on the 4th. There are good schools, a park and a community centre close by ....... a good selling point. It is about a 20-30 minute drive into downtown, unless it is rush hour. It is within a 10 minute drive from the airport. But those are the facts of living in Vancouver! I would seriously recommend that you visit Canada, several times, in summer (blackfly and mosquito season), winter (snow, -40C, or rain), spring and fall, AND go to different areas. We have now lived here for over 44 years, and have been lucky enough to visit and spend time in all the provinces and one territory (still have to go to NWT and Nunavut). EVERY area is different, and the people in every area are different. You have to find the area that is suited to you, and that you suit. Then you need to check what the employment opportunities are in your area of expertise, and, very important, whether your qualifications and experience will be acceptable over here. From tales told by friends .............. you also need to consider your children. How old are they? If into their teens, have you consulted them to see if they want to leave the UK? I know people who were brought here in their mid-teens, and never ever settled. They loved their parents, but also hated them for bringing them here. One escaped back to the UK as soon as she possibly could. Other children, of course, settle perfectly well. |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
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originally posted by Oink But you lot do sound like Americans. better not say that!!!!!!! Canadians HATE to be considered "Americans". In point of fact, the only Canadians who sound like Americans are some who live in Hamilton, Ontario, where the accent is very similar to that of the Bronx in NY. |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by scilly
(Post 10553807)
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better not say that!!!!!!! Canadians HATE to be considered "Americans". In point of fact, the only Canadians who sound like Americans are some who live in Hamilton, Ontario, where the accent is very similar to that of the Bronx in NY. |
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I can't tell the difference between west coast american and west coast canadian.
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 10553837)
I can't tell the difference between west coast american and west coast canadian.
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by scilly
(Post 10553801)
I would seriously recommend that you visit Canada, several times, in summer (blackfly and mosquito season), winter (snow, -40C, or rain), spring and fall, AND go to different areas. . |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by MikeUK
(Post 10547350)
A few home truths
Education isn’t better here, to some it’s broader more encompassing, to others its lacks academic focus The place lack’s sophistication, style and many things you take for granted in Europe, it’s like a step back in time, some people like this Even though it’s a massive country the vast majority live in cities with higher density than there UK counterparts On average when it’s all added up I’d suggest cost of living may be slighter higher here, but the odds are you will get a bigger house. Currently Canada is in a better place economically than Europe.. But if the US screws up we will go down too.. Personal y I don’t think that in the current climate there is enough to justify moving country because you don’t like the one you’re in, that is unless you are moving to a guaranteed Job that pays more (£ to $) and you need to factor in job security, working standards and employment benefits are normally lower here than Europe PS the winters are long and seriously cold, so unless you’re a mad skiing fan and really already love the outdoors, think long and think hard Agree with all the other posts about visiting various places in different seasons and do bear in mind the large costs of flying to the UK to visit family and vice versa, prices have doubled in past few years which, as a family of 5, we are struggling to justify a visit back to England anytime soon. Best of luck with your decisions.:thumbsup: |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by dudlek
(Post 10554406)
My 12 year old still has had no history lessons, we have been here 4 years! A little surprising.
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 10554584)
Hardly. Canada doesn't have any history.
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by dudlek
(Post 10554589)
Being British I disagree with that, the Empire had quite a ding dong or two with the French over here, I think!?!:confused:
It's true that two foreign powers had a tiff here. It's cold and damp. Perhaps we're really in the Falklands. |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
I recall taking history at Comp in Wales for GCSE - we did the Arab/Israeli Conflcit, Hitlers Germany and the tale of some slag heap that buried a small welsh town or village....
History isnt great wherever you go to school... |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by Howefamily
(Post 10555049)
I recall taking history at Comp in Wales for GCSE - we did the Arab/Israeli Conflcit, Hitlers Germany and the tale of some slag heap that buried a small welsh town or village....
History isnt great wherever you go to school... |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 10554584)
Hardly. Canada doesn't have any history.
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
We did a small amount of history in Primary school. Then in Grammar we started off with Greeks, Romans and Ancient Britain. Then towards 4th-5th year ( whatever they are called now ) we did 1789 French Revolution onwards up to Bismark in 1870, both British and European aspects.
My wife did something altogether different in period as they did GCSE or whatever and we did O Level. |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 10555086)
Tell that to the first nations....
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by Tangram
(Post 10555089)
Then in Grammar we started off with Greeks, Romans and Ancient Britain. Then towards 4th-5th year ( whatever they are called now ) we did 1789 French Revolution onwards up to Bismark in 1870, both British and European aspects.
My wife did something altogether different in period as they did GCSE or whatever and we did O Level. |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by Howefamily
(Post 10555049)
I recall taking history at Comp in Wales for GCSE - we did the Arab/Israeli Conflcit, Hitlers Germany and the tale of some slag heap that buried a small welsh town or village....
History isnt great wherever you go to school... |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 10555169)
First nations history is non-linear. Linear western methods of teaching it don't work because of the obsession with facts and dates.
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 10555169)
First nations history is non-linear. Linear western methods of teaching it don't work because of the obsession with facts and dates.
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 10555390)
Aberfan, October 1968. How old are you?
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by christmasoompa
(Post 10555080)
Really? Did you not study it at primary school? I certainly did, 12 (oh, ok, 20+) years ago. Both my children age 8 and 6 study it now. Granted, at the moment it's mainly UK related, such as the Great Fire of London and Grace Darling, but my daughter's just done the 1889 Great Exhibition and son is doing Inuit history at the mo.
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by Howefamily
(Post 10555404)
much younger!
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 10555390)
Aberfan, October 1968. How old are you?
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 10555394)
Linear or not it all just story telling.
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Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 10555407)
You don't sound it.
I really cant see the point of these comments |
Re: Seriously Thinking of Canada
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 10555086)
Tell that to the first nations....
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