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Hi alk woukd be great if anyone can help me. ..I will be coming out to keloena as soob as ny house sells. ..I am looking for any type of work doesnt even have to be an lmo job... I have been in the army and I an now a prison officer and have been for over 5 years

Someobe pkease help me lol

Mark

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Not sure about Kaloena, but in Ontario you need to be licenced to work in security.

A specified amount of hours training and a multi choice exam plus fee will be required.

Found a linky thing:

http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/securityindustry/worker/

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Hi thanks...I do kniw about this and will complete the course when I arrive just wanted to try and touch base with a possibke empkoyer I could possibky meet when I arrive

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Maybe you should look for an immigration route that doesn't require you to pass the english test ! ;)

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Haha thanks simon....this stupid phone and its predicted text

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Just google security and the city you want, and start calling different companies.

There are usually dozens of security companies in any decent sized city, so should not be hard to find some in Kelowna.

Pay varies greatly, anywhere from min. wage to 14 ish or so, probably find most pay in the 11-13/hr range for a basic guard.

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You are still going to need a WP (LMO required) or PR.

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I know, I have 6 months to secure an lmo employment when I arrive, I have my immigration team helping me, I was just hoping someone knew someone that is someone haha that could help me

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It may be difficult to get an LMO without actually having a license. Sort of a chicken egg situation.

We don't take people on if they are unlicensed, and you can't get a license unless you live here.

Start with G4 they are big here

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How are you hoping to enter Canada with no job offer, no LMO, no ties to the UK (i.e. no job and house sold) and a pregnant wife?

You say you are looking for a security job, but security workers are NOC 6541 http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/...spx?val65=6541 which is a semi-skilled occupation (classified "C"). The likelihood of anyone applying for an LMO for this is small at best. To get an LMO approved the company would have to prove that nobody else in Canada who currently has PR, a work permit or Citizenship can do the job.

Additionally, for BC, to qualify for Provincial Nomination - to get Permanent Residency - you would have to be employed in the Northern Territories even to be nominated, your job doesn't come under the semi-skilled occupations in demand. http://www.welcomebc.ca/Immigrate/Ab...spitality.aspx

I don't mean to sound rude, but have you thought this through?

:confused:

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I don't think you are being rude, I just wonder why you would think that I would look at moving without thinking this through.... I am only looking for security work as it will be a short stop until the prison or police take me and after speaking to some security firms and g4s they would be happy to start when I arrive, this is the same for some of the correctional workers, I have been advised by most of the correctional and security firms that once I have landed, I should go see them. Does that make sense

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Thanks I have looked at g4s as well, I have had some response from security firms who are more than happy to apply for an lmo based on my background but I have to wait until I have sold my house I have had a job offer in principle in the comox area of vancouver island I was just hoping to get the same from kelowna really :D

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"Landed" means to become a Permanent Resident, not 'arrive in Canada'.

None of the Police Forces nor prison services will consider you unless you are a PR or Citizen.

My concern is that you are planning to come to Canada 'as a visitor' whilst not having any ties to the UK. You are not guaranteed entry to Canada and you are required to show ties to your 'home country' if you come in as a visitor. If you had an LMO application in place you would probably be able to swing it but you have already said you are selling up in the UK, don't have a job offer with LMO here.

Security work won't enable you to get PR status if you are wanting to live in BC as there is no stream that you could apply under doing that work in BC - are you willing to change Provinces? I don't think you could even apply under the Canadian Experience Class as Security officer is not a skilled job.

:confused:

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We'll I have a job offer over in comox, and they have said they can sort the lmo, I will have to speak to my immigration people then as they are also assisting finding me a job. Do you know what provinces would be willing to do lmo for a prison officer, I am now confused as the immigration "experts" seem to think I will be fine

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Please listen to Siouxsie!! Or at least read & research the points she, and others, have made.

Who, or what, are your "immigration people" ???!!??

If you google "prison/correctional officer" jobs in Canada, (I haven't - going on memory here) I think you will find they require a minimum of PR status.

How long were you in (which?) army, which branch, what skills did you acquire? This info might help us orient your research.

SB

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No Province will do an LMO for a prison officer. You must be either a Permanent Resident or a Citizen to work for correctional services in Canada - the same with the Police Forces.

I hope your 'immigration experts' are not charging you to find you a job as that is illegal in Canada. It is also illegal (in Canada) for them to give you paid advice about immigration matters unless they are a member of good standing with their law society or else are members of ICCRC http://www.iccrc-crcic.ca/home.cfm

If the company in Comox can get an LMO approved you will be able to apply for a TWP when you arrive in Canada (which is good news, congrats) but if you want to get PR you will be limited to the streams you can apply under as a security officer because it isn't classed as 'skilled'.

Just as a matter of interest, the 'immigration' company doesn't start with a 'B', a 'G' or an 'I' by any chance does it?

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Many a true word spoken in jest. :blink:

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Kelowna...Comox...any province at all. Do you think an aspiration to move somewhere you really want to live in is important, rather than just taking pot luck?

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I'm sorry, I thought I was listening .....and taking on board what she had said which is why I asked for advice, I was only trying to get further information but if that is taken as me not listening then I must be ignorant. But I served in the British army for 4 years as an infantry soldier completing tours of Iraq , I have also been a prison officer for 5 and a half years, and I have been accepted to join the police service over here, so my background is basically security, I am only on here to get helpfully advice, I have only told you what I thought would get me answers, such as, the security company in comox are more than willing to apply for an lmo for my position based on my experience. I just didn't get how they can say they would do it if it is not on the list. And as for my immigration "people" they are global visas, assisting me in my visa and relocation needs, they are also applying for jobs, not all of them in British Columbia but as that is where I wanted to be I was trying to gain some information as to if this would be possible

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You must know my life, all I Am saying is I have a job offer in comox, but that's not where we want to be, I want to be in kelowna, and was just asking for some advice on if this would be possible, not advice on have I actually thought this through, I was only asking a question about security companies and there likelihood of taking me as a foreign worker which has been answered.

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I know nothing about your life, but if you're going to spend tens of thousands of pounds emigrating and settling in a new country, my opinion is that finding somewhere that's a positive draw because it's where you truly want to live is important, rather than ending up somewhere 2nd or 3rd best, being potentially miserable and regretting the whole process.

Living in Kelowna on a security workers wage, trying to pay the bills with a new family doesn't strike me as an easy option - it's an expensive area for real estate, and the general cost of living isn't any less then the UK.

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This I know is going to be a struggle, but it is where we want to be, so I am now confused, it is just like one person says yeah no problem, then someone says that won't happen, so it's stressful but I am trying to make it so I can just relocate with no issues which is why I started this discussion. To be honest we was going comox, hence the job offer but feel it will not be as good as kelowna which means I am back to the start on the job front. I am now just struggling to find any hope haha

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Uh-oh. There's a search function on here. Use it.

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Please don't be upset or offended by any responses you get - they are all made with concern for you and your plans, they are not meant to offend.

Perhaps it would help if I went over the basics.

An LMO is a Labour Market Opinion which employers have to obtain before they can employ an overseas applicant for a job. They have to advertise the position for a minimum of 4 weeks across the whole of Canada and in a minimum of three different places (BC or other Provincial Government job bank website, newspapers, trade papers) and prove nobody in Canada is willing or able or suitable to do the job. It takes between 8 and 16 weeks for it to be processed once the application is submitted.

If they get an approved LMO then they can give you a signed contract and you can turn up with your approved LMO, the contract and $155 and get a Temporary Work Permit (TWP) at the border or airport. Your TWP might be valid for 1 or 2 years, dependent on what the LMO says.

A TWP doesn't give you Permanent Residency, it is exactly what it says it is - a temporary work permit.

To get Permanent Residence Status you have to apply to Canada Immigration under one of the 50 odd streams. If you are in a semi-skilled job, your options are very limited as to what streams you can apply under - there are Federal streams, family streams and Provincial Nominee streams. For BC PNP (Provincial Nominee Program) there are limited jobs that qualify under semi skilled unless you were prepared to go and work in North BC.

I know that your ultimate aim is to gain PR and preferably become a police officer, so it may be worth your while looking at the Police forum on BE here - http://britishexpats.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=79 - but you should be aware that the police forces in Canada haven't really recruited internationally for a while. There is also some good information to be had (particularly about any forces that may recruit) here: http://forums.blueline.ca/viewforum.php?f=24

Yes, I thought it was probably Global Visa's. They don't have a good reputation. I really hope you didn't pay them much money.

:)

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Excuse me.....

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Why do you feel it isn't as good? Have you ever visited and spent time in either? Toured local areas as potential places to live, checked out schools, amenities, commuting issues etc?

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He only meant that they have a bad rep on BE and many other places and suggested you do a search to find the various posts.. it just didn't come across quite that way!

;)

Here's a google search of them - bad rep.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=globa...hrome&ie=UTF-8

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Mark, I'm sorry if my post came over as aggressive. It was meant to be more of a "heads-up" reinforcing what others have already said.

Given the company you cite as "helping" you, you might like to google their name + the word "review", and/or check this site for OPs' experiences with them.

Despite my short 'n sharp replies, which can be seen as snarky, I do like to help, as & when I can.

SB

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I appreciate your advice, it's just they seem to be telling me one thing, and then people like yourselves who have the know how tell me another. After months of planning and looking at it , it feels like I have now now got anywhere. So would the job offer with the security firm in comox not be sufficient enough to get me an lmo as I stated this to them and they seem to think it will be fine, why are global visas so bad haha

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I appreciate that and I too am sorry if I came across in Any other way. I am just getting frustrated as the closer it gets to going, we seem to be getting pulled back....now. Need to have a long discussion with these global visas

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The offer is sufficient potentially to kick off the LMO process, that's all. No guarantee that LMO will be successful.

Remember, even if you get here on a 1yr work permit, if you're unable to convert that into a longer term ability to get permanent residency, you have to leave Canada and return to the UK. Have you considered what might happen if you're made redundant, the company goes bust, or you hate the job? Do you have contingency such as enough cash to live on until another LMO is gained? It's a risky emigration route with a child on it's way

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For our sort of living and the schools and activities we feel we would benefit more from kelowna, even though we initially started looking in comox we are trying to do best for my kids

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As I said, Global have a bad reputation for a reason. Read some of the reviews on the link I gave you.

Edited to say ooops! Sorry, I didn't give you the link! https://www.google.ca/search?q=globa...hrome&ie=UTF-8

If you got a job offer in Comox and they were able to obtain an approved LMO then you would be able to come and work temporarily in Canada but this won't give you PR status.

:)

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Yeah we have thought about this and could probably do without touching the savings but if it came to that then I would have to deal with it. Do you think it would be doable? I know it will be hard but is it possible haha the only other option which I don't really want to do is to take up a corrections job in Alberta as they have different rules and I could get in....I think

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Yeah I just want to get my foot in the door and was hoping this would start it off, I am actually stressed now haha I understand about the pr status, I just don't want to get myself in a situation that will make us not want to go

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Would I emigrate on the basis of a 1 year temporary work permit to earn a fraction above minimum wage to support 2 young kids in one of the most expensive areas of Canada? Not a chance, and I took considerable financial risk with my emigration route, but I had no kids to consider.

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Seriously snippy response : Don't Bother!

Serious non-snippy response: Write off GV, take a deep breath, sit down & have a look through the Wiki on this site. Extend your emigration timeline by at least x3. Come & visit the areas you are looking at. Stick around this forum & keep questioning. :)

SB

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What is your sort of living? If it is skiing, Mt Washington on the island is close to Comox. Water sports, both are near the water. If it is searing hot temps in summer, Kelowna is your place. Schools, there is not going to be a lot difference between the two.

If you end up joining the RCMP or BC prison service, you may have to move around anyway.

There is this job in Vernon http://www.workbc.ca/JobSeekers/Disp...86&from=Search

Still only $12.40 an hour tops, under $26000 a year is going to be hard, maybe impossible to support a family with. If 2 wage earners get this maybe doable in less expensive areas with $52k a year.

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Surviving in the Comox Valley on $26k I think will be almost impossible. It's also a bit remote from everywhere else. What is there to guard up there anyway? I would be a bit nervous about the security (no pun) of the position and as has already been said, if it doesn't work out I would imagine finding another post and getting the appropriate visas would be hard. I can't really comment on the visa side of things, but as Siouxie has said -I think - you might struggle to turn your TWP into permanent residency in that line of work. In which case you may have to face the reality that you would have to return to the UK whether you wanted to or not.

I am usually the last one to be negative on here or to discourage someone following their dream/ambition. But in this case it looks tricky for you. Have you been to visit out here - or to Kelowna? I speak from experience - the Island is a quirky place at the best of times and not to everybody's taste. I can't really speak for Kelowna, only ever visited. That far north from the southern "hub" can be a bit "rural" to say the least. Nanaimo is I suppose the closest "big" city - and that is only 70,000 people (ish).

Maybe if you could find the resources, come and visit both areas if you haven't before and try and get an "on the ground" feel for the environment and culture (or lack of).

Keep us posted though. If you really want it to work, good luck to you. Almost anything is possible!

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Came over to see this thread from your other thread on having a baby. I have to say Markholly that it reads to me that you are trying to move too fast and simply haven't done enough research before starting to make decisions.

I don't know anything about this GV, but as others seem to be quite familiar with them I would listen to what they are telling you about the company. That is where you seem to be getting advice from that no one agrees with. Remove it as a source of advice and all the other advice you are getting seems to be very consistent.

Listening to one source who is telling you what you want to hear and ignoring 9 other sources who are disagreeing, is usually a recipe for disaster.