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Markhollyjack Mar 15th 2014 5:47 am

security work
 
Hi alk woukd be great if anyone can help me. ..I will be coming out to keloena as soob as ny house sells. ..I am looking for any type of work doesnt even have to be an lmo job... I have been in the army and I an now a prison officer and have been for over 5 years

Someobe pkease help me lol

Mark

magnumpi Mar 15th 2014 5:52 am

Re: security work
 
Not sure about Kaloena, but in Ontario you need to be licenced to work in security.

A specified amount of hours training and a multi choice exam plus fee will be required.

Found a linky thing:

http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/securityindustry/worker/

Markhollyjack Mar 15th 2014 6:12 am

Re: security work
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11174411)
Not sure about Kaloena, but in Ontario you need to be licenced to work in security.

A specified amount of hours training and a multi choice exam plus fee will be required.

Found a linky thing:

http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/securityindustry/worker/

Hi thanks...I do kniw about this and will complete the course when I arrive just wanted to try and touch base with a possibke empkoyer I could possibky meet when I arrive

Simon Legree Mar 15th 2014 6:25 am

Re: security work
 

Originally Posted by Markhollyjack (Post 11174403)
Hi alk woukd be great if anyone can help me. ..I will be coming out to keloena as soob as ny house sells. ..I am looking for any type of work doesnt even have to be an lmo job... I have been in the army and I an now a prison officer and have been for over 5 years

Someobe pkease help me lol

Mark

Maybe you should look for an immigration route that doesn't require you to pass the english test ! ;)

Markhollyjack Mar 15th 2014 6:37 am

Re: security work
 

Originally Posted by Simon Legree (Post 11174469)
Maybe you should look for an immigration route that doesn't require you to pass the english test ! ;)

Haha thanks simon....this stupid phone and its predicted text

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 15th 2014 6:42 am

Re: security work
 
Just google security and the city you want, and start calling different companies.

There are usually dozens of security companies in any decent sized city, so should not be hard to find some in Kelowna.

Pay varies greatly, anywhere from min. wage to 14 ish or so, probably find most pay in the 11-13/hr range for a basic guard.

Aviator Mar 15th 2014 7:31 am

Re: security work
 
You are still going to need a WP (LMO required) or PR.

Markhollyjack Mar 15th 2014 7:35 am

Re: security work
 
I know, I have 6 months to secure an lmo employment when I arrive, I have my immigration team helping me, I was just hoping someone knew someone that is someone haha that could help me

magnumpi Mar 15th 2014 8:15 am

Re: security work
 
It may be difficult to get an LMO without actually having a license. Sort of a chicken egg situation.

We don't take people on if they are unlicensed, and you can't get a license unless you live here.

Start with G4 they are big here

Siouxie Mar 15th 2014 8:38 am

Re: security work
 
How are you hoping to enter Canada with no job offer, no LMO, no ties to the UK (i.e. no job and house sold) and a pregnant wife?

You say you are looking for a security job, but security workers are NOC 6541 http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/...spx?val65=6541 which is a semi-skilled occupation (classified "C"). The likelihood of anyone applying for an LMO for this is small at best. To get an LMO approved the company would have to prove that nobody else in Canada who currently has PR, a work permit or Citizenship can do the job.

Additionally, for BC, to qualify for Provincial Nomination - to get Permanent Residency - you would have to be employed in the Northern Territories even to be nominated, your job doesn't come under the semi-skilled occupations in demand. http://www.welcomebc.ca/Immigrate/Ab...spitality.aspx

I don't mean to sound rude, but have you thought this through?

:confused:

Markhollyjack Mar 15th 2014 8:52 am

Re: security work
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 11174638)
How are you hoping to enter Canada with no job offer, no LMO, no ties to the UK (i.e. no job and house sold) and a pregnant wife?

You say you are looking for a security job, but security workers are NOC 6541 http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/...spx?val65=6541 which is a semi-skilled occupation (classified "C"). The likelihood of anyone applying for an LMO for this is small at best. To get an LMO approved the company would have to prove that nobody else in Canada who currently has PR, a work permit or Citizenship can do the job.

Additionally, for BC, to qualify for Provincial Nomination - to get Permanent Residency - you would have to be employed in the Northern Territories even to be nominated, your job doesn't come under the semi-skilled occupations in demand. http://www.welcomebc.ca/Immigrate/Ab...spitality.aspx

I don't mean to sound rude, but have you thought this through?

:confused:

I don't think you are being rude, I just wonder why you would think that I would look at moving without thinking this through.... I am only looking for security work as it will be a short stop until the prison or police take me and after speaking to some security firms and g4s they would be happy to start when I arrive, this is the same for some of the correctional workers, I have been advised by most of the correctional and security firms that once I have landed, I should go see them. Does that make sense

Markhollyjack Mar 15th 2014 8:54 am

Re: security work
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11174620)
It may be difficult to get an LMO without actually having a license. Sort of a chicken egg situation.

We don't take people on if they are unlicensed, and you can't get a license unless you live here.

Start with G4 they are big here

Thanks I have looked at g4s as well, I have had some response from security firms who are more than happy to apply for an lmo based on my background but I have to wait until I have sold my house I have had a job offer in principle in the comox area of vancouver island I was just hoping to get the same from kelowna really :D

Siouxie Mar 15th 2014 9:01 am

Re: security work
 

Originally Posted by Markhollyjack (Post 11174656)
I don't think you are being rude, I just wonder why you would think that I would look at moving without thinking this through.... I am only looking for security work as it will be a short stop until the prison or police take me and after speaking to some security firms and g4s they would be happy to start when I arrive, this is the same for some of the correctional workers, I have been advised by most of the correctional and security firms that once I have landed, I should go see them. Does that make sense



"Landed" means to become a Permanent Resident, not 'arrive in Canada'.

None of the Police Forces nor prison services will consider you unless you are a PR or Citizen.

My concern is that you are planning to come to Canada 'as a visitor' whilst not having any ties to the UK. You are not guaranteed entry to Canada and you are required to show ties to your 'home country' if you come in as a visitor. If you had an LMO application in place you would probably be able to swing it but you have already said you are selling up in the UK, don't have a job offer with LMO here.

Security work won't enable you to get PR status if you are wanting to live in BC as there is no stream that you could apply under doing that work in BC - are you willing to change Provinces? I don't think you could even apply under the Canadian Experience Class as Security officer is not a skilled job.

:confused:

Markhollyjack Mar 15th 2014 9:17 am

Re: security work
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 11174668)
"Landed" means to become a Permanent Resident, not 'arrive in Canada'.

None of the Police Forces nor prison services will consider you unless you are a PR or Citizen.

My concern is that you are planning to come to Canada 'as a visitor' whilst not having any ties to the UK. You are not guaranteed entry to Canada and you are required to show ties to your 'home country' if you come in as a visitor. If you had an LMO application in place you would probably be able to swing it but you have already said you are selling up in the UK, don't have a job offer with LMO here.

Security work won't enable you to get PR status if you are wanting to live in BC as there is no stream that you could apply under doing that work in BC - are you willing to change Provinces? I don't think you could even apply under the Canadian Experience Class as Security officer is not a skilled job.

:confused:

We'll I have a job offer over in comox, and they have said they can sort the lmo, I will have to speak to my immigration people then as they are also assisting finding me a job. Do you know what provinces would be willing to do lmo for a prison officer, I am now confused as the immigration "experts" seem to think I will be fine

Shirtback Mar 15th 2014 9:24 am

Re: security work
 

Originally Posted by Markhollyjack (Post 11174656)
... I have been advised by most of the correctional and security firms that once I have landed, I should go see them. Does that make sense

Please listen to Siouxsie!! Or at least read & research the points she, and others, have made.

Who, or what, are your "immigration people" ???!!??

If you google "prison/correctional officer" jobs in Canada, (I haven't - going on memory here) I think you will find they require a minimum of PR status.

How long were you in (which?) army, which branch, what skills did you acquire? This info might help us orient your research.

SB


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